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Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Computer viking posted:

If I recall the article correctly, it was actually quite hard to do, to the point where they dumped so much heat into it that it'd have melted either way?

Still a good read, no spoilers:

https://simson.net/ref/1993/cubefire.html

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Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAHJVa4Gkm4

This was a trip. A friend had a P90 and a GUS and could run all the 90s demos.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Laserjet 4P posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAHJVa4Gkm4

This was a trip. A friend had a P90 and a GUS and could run all the 90s demos.

I'll never pay GUS money now and never had one back in the day, but once the new version is out I'm interested in the Picogus, that ISA card that uses a Rasberry Pi Pico to do the job of a GUS. A lot more affordable than the hardware clones since it's not reliant on difficult to source old components. Seems a good way to experience the old demos that need one, even if 90% of the time I'm satisfied with cheap old Soundblasters and their clones.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
I just found out at Vintage Computer Festival Midwest that I am old IRC/Demoscene buddies with the guy doing the PicoGUS project so I will encourage literally everyone to buy at least 10 of them just in case

fondue
Jul 14, 2002


I've never read that before, thanks for sharing!

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



This goes in this thread I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtI2M82btMk

I love this guy

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

The aptly-named magazine Tietokone ("Computer" or literally "Knowledge machine") back in the early 1980s had a piece (or maybe it was a series) about one of the writers wanting an actualy portable computer so he build one with a battery. It had a clear plexi-glass case and, of course, ran CP/M.

Computer magazines nowadays? "Windows 11 still poo poo, read all about it! Also there's a new Adobe whateverwhocares!"

ynohtna
Feb 16, 2007

backwoods compatible
Illegal Hen
Portable, noun: something that has a handle.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

ynohtna posted:

Portable, noun: something that has a handle.

No it's Spanish for "for table" i.e. a desktop system.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Mustache Ride posted:

This goes in this thread I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtI2M82btMk

I love this guy

We had an SX-64 when I was a kid, such a cool piece of kit.

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008

3D Megadoodoo posted:

No it's Spanish for "for table" i.e. a desktop system.

Back in the old days you would have a porter to carry it for you.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Guy Axlerod posted:

Back in the old days you would have a porter to carry it for you.

Computer is derived from “Come, porter”

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Seeing as Computer was a female dominated occupation, the term "laptop computer" might be problematic.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


People of education and refinement call that sort of machine "luggable".

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

Mustache Ride posted:

This goes in this thread I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtI2M82btMk

I love this guy

Yeah LMNC is great. His dual leslie speakers are dope as gently caress.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Guy Axlerod posted:

Seeing as Computer was a female dominated occupation, the term "laptop computer" might be problematic.

Isn't this just moving the goal posts but instead of making it easier you set the goal posts out of the stadium into a festering pig poo poo pond?

Now IDE Master/Slave ; that is problematic because they knew what that relationship meant when it was first decided

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


:whip::wiggle: You say that as if it's a bad thing!

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug
Taking the plunge and recapping the power supply board on my EGA monitor. I replaced the paper safety capacitors when one of them failed right after I got it, but there's still some screen wobbliness that is apparently due to the electrolytics failing so I ordered some from China. Here's hoping.

I've also been playing with a PS/2 30-286 I picked up. Build quality on these is still pretty nice, and it was well-kept, so the hardest part was getting the IDE-CF to work replacing its long-gone hard drive. Pity maxing out its RAM is virtually impossible due to non-standard SIMMs.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Post pictures.
I'm not certain I ever got to see an EGA monitor in person, things kinda moved from 'everybody has an old 80's machine with a CGA' to 'everyone is getting into the 90's VGA revolution' around here.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


I wish I lived somewhere where it was easy to fill up my apartment with vintage computers. Somehow even Vancouver of all places has a dearth of working/minor repairs needed early 80s machines.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

EVIL Gibson posted:

Isn't this just moving the goal posts but instead of making it easier you set the goal posts out of the stadium into a festering pig poo poo pond?

Now IDE Master/Slave ; that is problematic because they knew what that relationship meant when it was first decided

One thing I've wondered is when did people stop talking about daugtherboards. Everyone still calls the motherboard a motherboard but daughterboards have been just "cards" for a long time now.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


It was a surprise for me the first I heard that term used in a youtube small factor pc review a few years ago, it was probably only ever common for people who worked with stuff bigger than microcomputers.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

By popular demand posted:

Post pictures.
I'm not certain I ever got to see an EGA monitor in person, things kinda moved from 'everybody has an old 80's machine with a CGA' to 'everyone is getting into the 90's VGA revolution' around here.

EGA is pretty neat since it can handle CGA too though obviously looks better at EGA resolution/color. By the time I got into PCs it was already outmoded though, and all of my current old machines have VGA even though I have a couple CGA/EGA cards. Here's the computer, the power board before I replaced the safety caps, and the screen as it looks now.





https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/3yrgcbmngk4.mp4

https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/j7mmcq29vq7.mp4

Kazinsal posted:

I wish I lived somewhere where it was easy to fill up my apartment with vintage computers. Somehow even Vancouver of all places has a dearth of working/minor repairs needed early 80s machines.

I have a fair amount of free space and an attic now, which sparked me to get back into the hobby, but the years I spent in a small apartment did a real number on making me clear out old systems that were worthless curiosities then but can be expensive to replace now.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




3D Megadoodoo posted:

One thing I've wondered is when did people stop talking about daugtherboards. Everyone still calls the motherboard a motherboard but daughterboards have been just "cards" for a long time now.

I remember seeing daughterboard term in the Amiga world, but in the DOS PC world it was just cards all the way. I don't know about the early IBM scene as much so I don't know if "card" was popular earlier in the 80s already.

"Sound card" is a lot nicer term to market than "sound daughterboard"

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012





Aww your monitor is just scared. Give it some time and gradually socialize with it and it should stop shivering.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


Killer robot posted:

I have a fair amount of free space and an attic now, which sparked me to get back into the hobby, but the years I spent in a small apartment did a real number on making me clear out old systems that were worthless curiosities then but can be expensive to replace now.

I've got a VAX under my desk that needs its power supply recapped and a Macintosh Classic II above it that... also needs a recap.

I'd like to get an XT with MDA and compatible monitor, but I can't seem to find any around here and I'm not going to pay eBay inflated prices to have one shipped and probably break in transit. Most likely I'll end up finding one in Seattle next spring and do a road trip for it. I wanted to secure one this year so I could put out an april fools joke for the OS development community in the form of a brand new from scratch Fourth Edition Unix for the 8088 but that didn't go as planned.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

lobsterminator posted:

Aww your monitor is just scared. Give it some time and gradually socialize with it and it should stop shivering.

It really does have that feel. For a little while I was hopeful it just needed to warm up since it improved over a few minutes, but then I realized it was just an up and down cycle.

Kazinsal posted:

I've got a VAX under my desk that needs its power supply recapped and a Macintosh Classic II above it that... also needs a recap.

I'd like to get an XT with MDA and compatible monitor, but I can't seem to find any around here and I'm not going to pay eBay inflated prices to have one shipped and probably break in transit. Most likely I'll end up finding one in Seattle next spring and do a road trip for it. I wanted to secure one this year so I could put out an april fools joke for the OS development community in the form of a brand new from scratch Fourth Edition Unix for the 8088 but that didn't go as planned.

I'm pretty new to recapping but around when I did the safety caps on the monitor a few months back I did some bulging caps on a still-working Super Socket 7 board I picked up in a cheap auction. Then I had to hot swap the BIOS to upgrade it to an version with a larger ROM size and better processor support. Now it's got a K6-2+ at 550MHz which is about as much as you can expect from that platform without dropping three digits on a K6-3+ with good overclocking. Added in an SB32 I got in a cheap bundle of sound cards back in spring and a GeForce 4MX I got in a video card bundle around the same time and just bought some RAM for it.

Doctor Bishop
Oct 22, 2013

To understand what happened at the diner, we use Mr. Papaya. This is upsetting because he is the friendliest of fruits.

lobsterminator posted:

I remember seeing daughterboard term in the Amiga world, but in the DOS PC world it was just cards all the way. I don't know about the early IBM scene as much so I don't know if "card" was popular earlier in the 80s already.

"Sound card" is a lot nicer term to market than "sound daughterboard"

Cards could themselves have daughterboards e.g. the WaveBlaster add-on for the SoundBlaster 16.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Doctor Bishop posted:

Cards could themselves have daughterboards e.g. the WaveBlaster add-on for the SoundBlaster 16.

The word daughterboard was occasionally used for boards adding more expansion slots to a PC motherboard. For example, “pizza box” style prebuilts often had a horizontal motherboard with a single slot, and you plugged a vertical daughterboard into that that actually provided ISA/PCI slots. (Something like this https://ithardwarehub.ca/products/61h2328-ibm-riser-card-pc300gl-pci-isa-daughter-board-refurbished.html)

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_snMOaCIy4

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Who was the target market for that? Old people?

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
Roger Daltrey and Wayne Coyne

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Me.

It was made for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBs3Jic6g2U

They made a pro version, I need this in my life.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Hope you have a lot of money to waste, according to the video since they've been discontinued those command very high prices on Ebay.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Definitely getting into Puppetmaster territory.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Yeah on second thought it would lose its novelty pretty quickly too since it looks like you are forced to use the limited number of proprietary cartridges.
I miiiight have been willing to pay the arm and a leg if it had generic midi in support.

I guess teenage engineering made the modern version of these with bluetooth but it sucks in comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCcWEmoTQI

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe

r u ready to WALK posted:

Yeah on second thought it would lose its novelty pretty quickly too since it looks like you are forced to use the limited number of proprietary cartridges.


It looked to me like it's using repurposed WonderSwan cartridges, I was surprised the video didn't say anything. I wonder if a person could use a flash cart to load custom song data into it.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/Papapishu/status/1723100828389491042?s=20

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

r u ready to WALK posted:

Yeah on second thought it would lose its novelty pretty quickly too since it looks like you are forced to use the limited number of proprietary cartridges.
I miiiight have been willing to pay the arm and a leg if it had generic midi in support.

I guess teenage engineering made the modern version of these with bluetooth but it sucks in comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCcWEmoTQI

Its too bad there are not a lot of the bands because imagine someone doing similar things as they do to Billy Bass

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bRxhgxH6FUI&si=db02yHuHveP4K2ym
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bgsQR1qECso&si=B91WEhrYfJMHj1R7
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0PysluVigHw&si=j7dg1lJG6NFMDfwU

The last one is a banger from 14 years away

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r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

needs more bass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuE4qxOcluk

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