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Jesus Horse
Feb 24, 2004

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Gotta market to the kids who are into fortnite and cod and stuff

I like to play Ground Breaker and build walls in front of the enemy spawn

That strat is outdated, tunnels are the new meta. Time to get Hoxha-maxing

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/smashbaals/status/1722386730328654027

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
Vore!

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Christian life hack: you can sacrifice any number of babies, as long as you don't sacrifice them to Moloch

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Cerebral Bore posted:

cum is stored in the meat

not Outback Steakhouse's best slogan but it's pretty funny

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor



the democratic d&d poster vs the cspam anti-electoralist reprobates

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G



You can't say it any more.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.


I usually play Thunder Maker because you can rocket jump on top of the big building in the middle of the map and spawn camp

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Weka posted:

Has Finkelstein ever claimed to be a leftist? What makes you think he is one?
He seems like an honest academic in a field where that's stigmatized. Plenty of right liberals that I know would agree with him 100% if they new the history properly, I don't think being opposed to genocide or whatever makes you a leftist.

genocide is 100% a thing to control labor forces and real estate. being opposed to genocide is definitely a left thing, whether it's based out of basic humanity or socioeconomic analysis I don't think matters too much. genocide's wrong from a bunch of angles

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
Posting this:



To quote this:

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
He's also just super Old which makes your brain turn to mush no matter how cool and good you were in the past, see his dumb takes on trans people and porn. His hatred is pure but the flesh is weak

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

The strange, sad story of when journalists don't disclose their conflicts of interest.

There are few things in life that go as well together as chocolate & peanut butter, mac & cheese, and Vice Magazine & sucking dick. If that's your thing, more power to you, but it's not the the usual function of a news agency.

Sucking dick isn't exclusive to Vice magazine, but it's just what people think of when they read their dog-poo poo "journalism," which consists of hipsters eating cum on pizza to hipsters eating cum as a dessert. Whatever the topic is, you can rest assured that someone at Vice is finding a way to eat copious amounts of cum to complete it.


Typical hard-hitting Vice journalism.

It was on one such assignment back in June of 2018 when I was contacted by a vice writer named Justin Caffier, who was not writing a story about cum for a change, but instead covering a topic he has a much greater appetite for: bullshit. Except he wasn't eating it himself so much as serving it up for everyone else to shove down our throats.


Justin Caffier - A good boy!

Back in June of 2018, Caffier slid into my DMs on Twitter. He claimed he was a writer for Vice, and when I asked him for some credentials and he said, "the link in my bio is my vice [sic] author page" and even touted his "blue verified checkmark," which at the time, was a distinction reserved for random "influencers" with 3,000 or so followers and a connection at Twitter. Or now, anyone with $8.

Justin clearly couldn't conceive of a universe in which simply saying, "look at this sentence on my bio that I wrote" isn't proof of anything, but I gave him the benefit of doubt because I was feeling charitable and he did happen to mention a few specifics that made me think he was more than just the usual cum-eater from Vice.


Spoiler: Vice is still garbage


He was reaching out for a comment about a harassment campaign of which I've been the target. One of the harassment ringleaders is a guy named Asterios Kokkinos. He was riding the coattails of a guy riding my coattails for years in a smear campaign against me. He's a Facebook Feminist, "good boy," and self-described liberal who has received the endorsement of far-right pizzagate conspiracy dipshits like Mike Cernovich. Asterios spent years harassing me, my friends, sponsors and countless other people in my life. He sends private messages to people he barely knows, slandering me and accusing me of unhinged poo poo without any evidence. He even added a friend of mine on Facebook after he saw us tagged in a photo. Just the run-of-the-mill creepy stalker poo poo.

Of course I blocked his account everywhere I could, and when I banned him, Asterios bought targeted ads to harass me and my fans & supporters further:




Asterios' targeted harassment campaign

He even shared instructions with his followers on how to create fake iTunes accounts which is how people can spam fake or duplicate negative reviews:

How to create a fake iTunes account: instructions by Asterios Kokkinos

This went on week after week while he kept escalating and posting on hate forums like Kiwi Farms, where they regularly doxxed me and the girl I was dating at the time. Asterios wouldn't stop his harassment campaign. So you might be wondering: why wasn't there a lawsuit?

So there was a lawsuit.

I took him, his company, business partners and all the principles who enabled or engaged in this harassment to court.

But of course, Asterios painted himself as a poor innocent victim and told people that I sued him because he called me the word "cuck." Yes, that's a totally legitimate reason people get sued, and not the fraud, stalking and targeted harassment, right?


Asterios claiming I sued him for calling me a "cuck"

And that's where Justin Caffier comes in. Justin picked up Asterios' narrative and ran with it, without doing a modicum of research, and failed to mention all of the harassment, and instead went for this angle


Vice smears
Justin Caffier ran with this narrative!

To call this framing dishonest would be generous.

When Justin said he was a writer from Vice, that set off alarm bells because Facebook Feminist Asterios is real chummy with another Vice writer, a guy named Mike Pearl who has written such riveting pieces for Vice like, "everything you ever wanted to know about the legalities of pseudo-kiddie porn," which is nothing. I want to know literally nothing about that. Good one, Mike! As if Vice needed to have a worse reputation for their poo poo-tier, expired, clickbait trash they've been publishing for years:


Mike Pearl, everybody!

I met Mike Pearl several years ago with Asterios when I learned that they were good friends and even roommates. So when Justin reached out, I thought they might be the same person. I asked him about it, "Have we met before, by chance? Are you a friend of Asterios'? I know he had a friend/roommate who worked for VICE a while ago." Here's his response:

Justin knows Mike Pearl alright...

But that's not all. It turns out that Justin wasn't telling the whole truth of his involvement with Mike and Asterios. I dug a little deeper and found out that they're good friends and even do a podcast together:

Oops! Justin forgot to mention he's "actually good" friends with Mike Pearl, Asterios' friend and former roommate! Simple oversight.

Ooops! Since Justin didn't disclose this, I became suspicious. What else did he fail to disclose?

If they're good friends, and Justin's met Asterios, it's likely that they've all hung out together. After all, Mike and Asterios were roommates and Justin sees Mike at least once a week to do a podcast. Maybe they all went out and got drinks, went to comedy shows, who knows? What I do know is that Justin was not being forthright.

So I dug a little deeper and it turns out that Justin's relationship goes deeper than just having "met once." Justin has not only met Asterios, but he follows him on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram:

Justin Caffier is really interested in Asterios. I don't even follow most of my close friends this much.

I have friends whom I've known for years and like very much, and I still don't "like" their social media pages. That poo poo's exhausting. So it's pretty telling that Justin, who only followed 6 or so public figures on Facebook, chose to make Asterios one of them. In fact, a deep-dive into the 1,000 or so accounts he follows on Twitter shows that one of the first 100 or so accounts he followed was Asterios'. And Mike Pearl was #6. If they're not best friends, they're very close. So it's entirely likely that Mike has proselitized to Justin on behalf of their mutual friend/acquaintance. And it's not like Justin was doing this for research, as he's been following Asterios for a long time and he doesn't follow me anywhere.

I asked Justin if he'd disclose his relationship to Asterios in the article, and he said he'd run it by his editors, but he implied the concern was a legal one, rather than an ethical one. It's not illegal to not disclose your relationship to your subject, it's unethical and douchey.


Justin clearly doesn't understand the difference between what's ethical and what's legal.

Justin never got back to me about what his editors said, and he went ahead and published the article anyway. But not before he made a subtle threat:


A subtle threat. Classy!

Saying he'd "hate to not have" my perspective seems disingenuous. It sounds like something you'd say to someone if they don't acquiesce to your demands. "Nice car. Would hate for something to happen to it." Except in this case, the car is my reputation. Then Justin lied on Twitter and said that I "ghosted" him. That's very misleading. I did give him a statement. In fact, the first thing I said to him was, "almost everything said about me from the other side is false or misleading:"


Looks like a statement to me!

Justin chose not to print this statement.

When I found out he was not being forthright about his connection to Asterios and his friend, former Vice writer, roommate and co-host, Mike Pearl, I decided to wait for him to follow up with what his editors said. He never did, and I didn't think Justin was capable of doing a fair or unbiased job of reporting this story. But of course, none of that stopped him from going to print with a bunch of false and misleading bullshit anyway.

This isn't the first time Justin has done a puff piece for one of his friends, either. On June 25, 2018, Justin posted this pic of a mural in LA claiming that only "influencers" with 20k followers or a blue checkmark can take a picture in front of:

Failed to disclose: this is marketing for his friend's TV show.

The only problem is, Justin failed to disclose that it's actually a viral marketing stunt for his friend's TV show, Jack Wagner. And that's just the tip of this circle-jerk, because the show is staffed with Vice writers and contributors, including Brandon Dermer and Brandon Wardell. And in case you were wondering about Justin's connection to Jack, he was the second guest on Justin's echoey podcast in March of 2018. In fact, Justin even alludes to Jack's show at 40:35, as Jack nervously tries to move past it by saying the title and platform hadn't been announced yet. That was 3 months before its release, and in case you might think they could be talking about another show, it's the only one Jack is credited with in 2018. So Justin knew the stunt was for his friend's show, posted the original tweet to make it look like it was an authentic mural rather than a marketing piece, and wrote the article without disclosing his relationship to his friends and colleagues who worked on the show. Nice going, shill!

Suffice it to say, I don't trust Justin.

In desparation, he sent another DM to me on Twitter saying that the piece he wrote felt incomplete. So what did he do? Did he set it aside until he got all the facts? Did he do further research to at least check the veracity of the claims made by his acqaintance? Nah. He just published it anyway:

Incomplete? Oh well, publish it anyway!

Know why it feels incomplete? That's because it is.

Incomplete? Maybe nobody will notice the glaring omissions! Based off Brent Rambo meme.

The article itself was comically bad, misstating basic facts like the name of my podcast, the name of a book he referenced, and he printed countless falsehoods and assumptions, all coming from his obsessed acquaintance.

So meticulous!

There's a lot more detail in this video around the 25 minute mark for those interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgDIZ17440o

The facts and details of what actually happened are now public, so I won't go into them here, but that's why I didn't talk to Vice. My already low opinion of the publication is even lower after this bullshit. Add Vice to your ignore list on social media. Don't visit the site and tell your friends not to either. Vice is garbage and they can't go out of business soon enough.

25,993 people still think Vice is garbage.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

lollin at the view counts decreasing by two orders of magnitude

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The Voice of Labor posted:

genocide is 100% a thing to control labor forces and real estate. being opposed to genocide is definitely a left thing, whether it's based out of basic humanity or socioeconomic analysis I don't think matters too much. genocide's wrong from a bunch of angles

You're not wrong, but you're missing a bunch (around 1488) of nice young men complaining about white genocide. And more to the point, Israel has built a lot of its national identity on being against genocide, which would be kinda funny if it was something less horrible than genocide.
What I'm saying that genocide is a good tool for getting rid of your political opponents, and if you are both a fascist and a potential target for genocide, you can be a fascist who's against genocide.

Anyway, that's a grande latte with extra Palestinian blood please

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Did we already do Hamas tunnels?

Youremother posted:

What's old is new again.


The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

if crazy evil people want to lie about things and be delusional, that does not change the meaning of words or the application of concepts. genocide means something. there is a concept it refers to and historical, physical examples of that concept. do not allow, let alone abet, white replacement nitwits or israel's nazis to destroy meaning. if they succeed in doing that, they have won

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
god drat it's all so stupid and obvious and projected and didn't we just loving do this 20 years ago

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

theflyingexecutive posted:

lollin at the view counts decreasing by two orders of magnitude

Yeah, what a fall from grace

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

BonHair posted:

Did we already do Hamas tunnels?

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

god drat it's all so stupid and obvious and projected and didn't we just loving do this 20 years ago

:lmao::sigh:

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The Voice of Labor posted:

if crazy evil people want to lie about things and be delusional, that does not change the meaning of words or the application of concepts. genocide means something. there is a concept it refers to and historical, physical examples of that concept. do not allow, let alone abet, white replacement nitwits or israel's nazis to destroy meaning. if they succeed in doing that, they have won

I think the genocide that Israel is identifying against is very real and historical. But yeah, the point is that being against genocide because it's A Bad Thing is different from being a genocide because it's targeting the wrong group. I dunno if it's necessarily leftist in nature though, just basic human decency. Which does correlate with leftist.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

I would contend that if your definition of genocide allows for genocide against the wrong group, then you are misunderstanding the concept. systematically killing off a people is agnostic of of which people are being killed off or why

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
what if the group is billionaires

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

What if the group is the romanovs

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
or cops

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The Voice of Labor posted:

I would contend that if your definition of genocide allows for genocide against the wrong group, then you are misunderstanding the concept. systematically killing off a people is agnostic of of which people are being killed off or why

I am going to genocide all the Jews and all the Muslims in Denmark. A good person would be against both, but a strawman zionist/right wing guy would only be against the former, while generally being on board with the latter.
This is actually not that hypothetical, we have people calling for getting rid of the Muslims while at the same time saying we should do more to protect the Jewish minority. And others who think we should get rid of Jews and Muslims alike.

I don't actually disagree, I just think it's possible to be against some specific genocides and still be bad.

And if landlords and billionaires are considered targets for genocide, I have some slightly problematic opinions maybe.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

stfu

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

what if the group is billionaires

in much the same way that death to israel means an end of an apartheid state and not the death of israeli people, billionaires and landlords and cops can be excised as a class without killing billionaires or landlords or even cops. they may have trouble adapting to world where they don't have privilege, but tough poo poo

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

BonHair posted:

I don't actually disagree, I just think it's possible to be against some specific genocides and still be bad.


that's not being opposed to genocide. that's a similar reasoning error as replying that all lives matter in response to black lives matter.

in the all lives matter case, some one is saying this particular thing matters, the all lives matter person is saying this general thing matters, but if they actually believed it, they would have no problem saying that black lives matter because it's a particular included in the broader category of all lives.

in the case of genocide, that's the broad, inclusive category that includes all genocides, if someone is opposed to genocide, they are opposed to all genocides. if someone is only opposed to one particular genocide, they are not opposed to genocide in general

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Actually, I see your point and am convinced now. But I will not stop posting, at least before everyone else stops genociding.

Unless you want to discuss if cochlear implants are genocide of the deaf, that's some ethically tricky poo poo that can be presented as a justified genocide with barely any twisting.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
being antivax is a genocide against autists

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

BonHair posted:

Actually, I see your point and am convinced now. But I will not stop posting, at least before everyone else stops genociding.

Unless you want to discuss if cochlear implants are genocide of the deaf, that's some ethically tricky poo poo that can be presented as a justified genocide with barely any twisting.

is anyone forcing cochlear implants on unwilling deaf people?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

BonHair posted:

And if landlords and billionaires are considered targets for genocide, I have some slightly problematic opinions maybe.

oh, do you?

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The Voice of Labor posted:

is anyone forcing cochlear implants on unwilling deaf people?

Kinda? Aside from implants being pushed on parents of newborn deaf kids being kinda comparable to eugenics, and the kids not getting a choice, there's the issue where the traditional number of deaf people is enough for a community, but if you remove all the kids born to parents who accept the implants, there's not enough for a real (language) community, and so the parents really have a choice of getting their kid the implant or leaving them literally without anyone to talk to, which is not the same as choosing to remain deaf.

This is based on the Danish community for the record, and it's something I think about occasionally because I honestly don't know what the right thing to do is.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

what's the percentage of people who have had their hearing restored who then demanded the implants be removed?

there's all sorts of benefits to being able to hear, and I'm hard pressed to see any disadvantages that can't be solved with ear plugs.

I get that there are concerns and I'm not a member of the affected group but this seems more like a thing to muddy the waters than any kind of reason to stop and reflect on what israel is doing to gaze or what america did and is doing to its indigenous people

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Yeah, what a fall from grace

Glass houses and stones

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004


after their born you can kill as many as you want through capitalism

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

The Voice of Labor posted:

what's the percentage of people who have had their hearing restored who then demanded the implants be removed?

there's all sorts of benefits to being able to hear, and I'm hard pressed to see any disadvantages that can't be solved with ear plugs.

I get that there are concerns and I'm not a member of the affected group but this seems more like a thing to muddy the waters than any kind of reason to stop and reflect on what israel is doing to gaze or what america did and is doing to its indigenous people

there's a good movie about this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFOrGkAvjAE

HoboCop766
Sep 9, 2022

Well was the harvest good? Probably

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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

HoboCop766 posted:

Well was the harvest good? Probably

A lot of very credentialed people will go on and on about the ‘green revolution’ but Roe v Wade was decided in 1973

Coincidence? Maybe. Do you really want to test that thesis?

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