Kalit posted:

Eh, being obnoxious towards a politician who is already critical of Israel's invasion and calling for a ceasefire seems like a good way to push them away from the protester's side

Kalit posted:

Do you think that harassing a person over an issue where they are on the same side as you would make said person more sympathetic?

IMO, it absolutely does not and could easily build resentment over time.

B B posted:

It seems to me that if Warren had called for a ceasefire (she hasn't, by the way), she would have been able to respond to the protester by saying "I have already called for a ceasefire." All she has called for is a "short-term cessation of hostilities that pose high-risk to civilians." The statement that article you posted is at the link below. The word "ceasefire," which is not the same thing as a "short-term cessation of hostilities," does not appear once.

https://www.markey.senate.gov/news/press-releases/statement-of-senators-regarding-humanitarian-aid-to-civilians-in-gaza

They're not on the same side. The protester wants a ceasefire, which Elizabeth Warren has not publicly supported.

quote:

A ceasefire (also known as a truce or armistice[1]), also spelled cease fire (the antonym of 'open fire'[2]), is a temporary stoppage of a war in which each side agrees with the other to suspend aggressive actions.

Kalit posted:

Just because they didn't use the word doesn't mean that it's not calling for a ceasefire. Which is literally what they're advocating for.

TGLT posted:

It isn't, actually. A brief unilateral pause in between bombings is not a ceasefire, which is why these politicians don't use the word ceasefire.

A WaPo article about these differences

Kalit posted:

Just because they didn't use the word doesn't mean that it's not calling for a ceasefire. Which is literally what they're advocating for.

Warren, Senators Call for Humanitarian Pauses and Hostage Releases in Israel-Hamas War, Echoing United States Resolution at United Nations posted:

Israel has a right to defend its citizens after Hamas’s terrorist attacks, which have driven the region into turmoil and cost thousands of lives. The war in Gaza has become a humanitarian crisis and has claimed the lives of innocent Palestinians. As the United States put forward at the United Nations, we are calling for humanitarian pauses to allow full, rapid, safe and unhindered humanitarian assistance for civilians and the immediate, unconditional release of all remaining hostages

Main Paineframe posted:

You don't accidentally sign an ironclad, extremely binding contract. If he was just faking interest to mess with the stock price for some reason, then he wouldn't have signed an actual contract.

It is extremely clear that he genuinely wanted to buy Twitter, and then changed his mind and genuinely wanted to get out of buying Twitter. We don't know (and will likely never know) why exactly he made these decisions, but it's quite clear that he made them. There's no such thing as accidentally buying a company.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1...ber%3D4350pti35
https://twitter.com/RachelCoyleOhio/status/1723027794219667804

seems Ohio GOP isnt happy with the results.

Kalit posted:

Fair enough, thank you for the source.

i am a moron posted:

They’re posturing and really want to lose in 2024 apparently.

TGLT posted:

It isn't, actually. A brief unilateral pause in between bombings is not a ceasefire, which is why these politicians don't use the word ceasefire.

A WaPo article about these differences

shimmy shimmy posted:

I mean, maybe, but this reminds me of the poo poo the legislature pulled in Florida with the felon disenfranchisement which doesn't make me super positive about what the fallout will be. Especially with control over the state supreme court.

Eiba posted:

Could someone explain the meaningful difference between a "humanitarian pause" and a "ceasefire" with a link that isn't paywalled? It seems really critical to understand these terms to follow the discussion at hand.

quote:

The terms “pause” and “cease-fire” might seem similar, but they have significant differences that officials have attempted to articulate throughout the conflict. Though neither has a set definition under international law, National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said on Oct. 24 that the distinction lies in the “duration and scope and size” of any cessation of combat.

A humanitarian pause is usually shorter and “focused on ideally getting aid into a certain area,” Grant Rumley, a former Pentagon official now at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said in an interview. A cease-fire is “typically a result of negotiations sponsored or facilitated by a third party,” he said, and “can last indefinitely so long as both sides of the conflict adhere to it.”

The U.N. General Assembly adopted a resolution Oct. 27 that called for an “immediate, durable and sustained humanitarian truce leading to a cessation of hostilities.” There were 120 votes in favor and 14 against, including the United States, plus 45 abstentions.

When U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited Tel Aviv last week, he encouraged Israel to institute pauses in fighting to allow for the safe delivery of aid into Gaza and to help negotiate the release of hostages. President Biden, several members of Congress and many of the United States’ allies, including the European Union, Australia and Canada, have made similar calls for humanitarian pauses.

For some, this is not enough. U.N. Secretary General António Guterres has repeatedly called for “a humanitarian cease-fire,” a plea that a coalition of U.N. agencies and NGOs reiterated Monday in a rare joint statement. When protesters took to the streets of Washington over the weekend, many carried signs emblazoned with the words “cease-fire now.” And during a Saturday meeting with Blinken, Arab leaders pressed for an immediate cease-fire.

BUUNNI posted:

I don’t think union members will matter electorally as much as people think they will. Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice to see an octogenarian conservative white guy putting on a UAW jacket for a photo op but union membership rates still are nowhere close to the numbers the US used to have just a few decades ago. I think we’re roughly back to where we were in 2020.

Kalit posted:

Do you think that harassing a person over an issue where they are on the same side as you would make said person more sympathetic?

IMO, it absolutely does not and could easily build resentment over time.

Eiba posted:

Could someone explain the meaningful difference between a "humanitarian pause" and a "ceasefire" with a link that isn't paywalled? It seems really critical to understand these terms to follow the discussion at hand.

Gumball Gumption posted:

I've got to ask, what's your feelings on this now that you've learned the difference? I mean, can't the same thing still apply? Shes halfway to what the protesters want so won't they still just build up resentment and keep her from calling for a ceasefire?

Kalit posted:

Eh, I still think ambushing politicians in public while they're not working and just trying to live their own life isn't very productive.

Eiba posted:

Could someone explain the meaningful difference between a "humanitarian pause" and a "ceasefire" with a link that isn't paywalled? It seems really critical to understand these terms to follow the discussion at hand.

quote:

Glossary of Terms: Pauses During Conflict
During conflict, parties might agree to a pause in fighting to allow life-saving assistance to
reach civilians or to carry out peace talks. It is important to differentiate between these
scenarios, particularly between pauses purely for humanitarian purposes and those agreed
as part of a political process.

Ceasefire
A suspension of fighting agreed upon by the parties to a conflict, typically as part of a political process. It is intended to be long-term and often covers the entire geographic area of the conflict. Its aim is usually to allow parties to engage in dialogue, including the possibility of reaching a permanent political settlement.

Cessation of hostilities
The suspension of active hostilities intended to allow parties to take a break from fighting for various reasons, including as a step towards political dialogue and a sustained ceasefire.

Temporary cessation of hostilities
A suspension of fighting agreed upon by all relevant parties for a specific period. It may be undertaken for various reasons, including for humanitarian purposes. In such cases, the agreement identifies the geographic area of operations and the period during which specific humanitarian activities will be carried out.

Humanitarian pause
A temporary cessation of hostilities purely for humanitarian purposes. Requiring the agreement of all relevant parties, it is usually for a defined period and specific geographic area where the humanitarian activities are to be carried out.

Humanitarian corridor
Specific routes and logistical methods agreed upon by all relevant parties to allow the safe passage of humanitarian goods and/or people from one point to another in an area of active fighting.

Days of tranquillity
A mechanism used primarily by UNICEF, often in collaboration with WHO, to enable children to have access to health care during conflict, for example to undertake national immunization campaigns or other exclusively humanitarian activities. Days of tranquillity require the agreement of all relevant parties to grant access to and not interfere with the work of medical and other personnel during the designated days.

De-confliction arrangements
The exchange of logistical information between humanitarian actors and parties to conflict to coordinate the time and locations of relief activities. Such arrangements ensure military operations do not jeopardize the lives of humanitarian personnel, impede the passage of relief supplies or implementation of humanitarian activities, or endanger beneficiaries.

Kalit posted:

Eh, I still think ambushing politicians in public while they're not working and just trying to live their own life isn't very productive.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I mean it would make more sense if it were, like, Joe Manchin. But I'm not gonna sit here and judge someone on strategy when they just had sixty eight family members murdered.

haveblue posted:

Byzantine posted:

Main Paineframe posted:

Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1...ber%3D4350pti35

Kalit posted:

Eh, I still think ambushing politicians in public while they're not working and just trying to live their own life isn't very productive.

Main Paineframe posted:

It is extremely clear that he genuinely wanted to buy Twitter, and then changed his mind and genuinely wanted to get out of buying Twitter. We don't know (and will likely never know) why exactly he made these decisions

The Artificial Kid posted:

That’s a pretty disingenuous y axis. In just 23 years union membership has plummeted from a stratospheric 16.3 million to a near-zero level of 14.3 million. If this trend continues (instead of the current rising trend) unions will be extinct in only 140 years.

BUUNNI posted:

That’s why I posted the second graph showing the same trend for the past 40+ years

Kalit posted:

Eh, I still think ambushing politicians in public while they're not working and just trying to live their own life isn't very productive.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://twitter.com/NewsWire_US/sta...%5Es1_&ref_url=
speaking of fun. how long before the chuds call for his head.

Edit; put correct link

haveblue posted:

I buy that announcing he wanted to buy it was the result of stupidity and chemical assistance, but at least several days passed between the tweets to that effect and his actual signing of a binding contract, he can't have stayed that high for the entire duration

The Lone Badger posted:

It's drugs OP.

quote:

The devices — at least two cellphones and an iPad — were returned to the mayor within a matter of days, according to that person and another person familiar with the situation. Law enforcement investigators with a search warrant can make copies of the data on devices after they seize them.

A lawyer for Mr. Adams and his campaign said in a statement that the mayor was cooperating with federal authorities, and had already “proactively reported” at least one instance of improper behavior.

“After learning of the federal investigation, it was discovered that an individual had recently acted improperly,” said the lawyer, Boyd Johnson. “In the spirit of transparency and cooperation, this behavior was immediately and proactively reported to investigators.”

quote:

Mr. Adams, in his own statement, said that “as a former member of law enforcement, I expect all members of my staff to follow the law and fully cooperate with any sort of investigation — and I will continue to do exactly that.” He added that he had “nothing to hide.”

The surprise seizure of Mr. Adams’s devices was an extraordinary development and appeared to be the first direct instance of the campaign contribution investigation touching the mayor. Mr. Adams, a retired police captain, said on Wednesday that he is so strident in urging his staff to “follow the law” that he can be almost “annoying.” He laughed at the notion that he had any potential criminal exposure.

quote:

The federal investigation into Mr. Adams’s campaign burst into public view on Nov. 2, when F.B.I. agents searched the home of the mayor’s chief fund-raiser and seized two laptop computers, three iPhones and a manila folder labeled “Eric Adams.”

The fund-raiser, a 25-year-old former intern named Brianna Suggs, has not spoken publicly since the raid.

Mr. Adams responded to news of the raid by abruptly returning from Washington, D.C., where he had only just arrived for a day of meetings with White House and congressional leaders regarding the migrant influx, an issue he has said threatens to “destroy New York City.”

On Wednesday, he said his abrupt return was driven by his desire to be present for his team, and out of concern for Ms. Suggs, who he said had gone through a “traumatic experience.”

“Although I am mayor, I have not stopped being a man and a human,” he said.

But he also said he did not speak with Ms. Suggs on the day of the raid, to avoid any appearance of interfering in an ongoing investigation.

quote:

The warrant obtained by the F.B.I. to search Ms. Suggs’s home sought evidence of a conspiracy to violate campaign finance law between members of Mr. Adams’s campaign, the Turkish government or Turkish nationals, and a Brooklyn-based construction company, KSK Construction, whose owners are originally from Turkey. The warrant also sought records about donations from Bay Atlantic University, a Washington, D.C., college whose founder is Turkish and is affiliated with a school Mr. Adams visited when he went to Turkey as Brooklyn borough president in 2015.

The warrant, reviewed by The New York Times, indicated authorities were looking at whether the Turkish government or Turkish nationals funneled donations to Mr. Adams using a so-called straw donor scheme, in which the contributors listed were not the actual source of the money. The warrant also inquired about Mr. Adams’s campaign’s use of New York City’s generous public matching program, in which New York City offers an eight-to-one match of the first $250 of a resident’s donation.

7c Nickel posted:

De Blasio: ‘Well, Well, Well, Not So Easy To Find A Mayor That Doesn’t Suck poo poo, Huh?’

zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/danarubinstein/status/1723075214211211623

Now I don't want to shock you all but this Eric Adams fellow might not be on the level.

We might see someone actually exceed Trump levels of lying here





I'm sure the mere proximity of Hizzoner in NYC was a balm. The case looks like it involves shady dealings involving the Turkish government:

Going forward the mayor of NYC should be appointed by the state legislature, the NYC electorate cannot be trusted to look after itself.

quote:

The university is one of the few universities in Turkey which has its lectures in English and therefore students applying to BAU are required to have high English proficiency.