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Matt Zerella posted:I still don't know what any of this means. you don't know what save percentage is?
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Nov 10, 2023 20:15
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th3t00t posted:This confirms that the NHL is the dumbest league in history. How are they this dumb? Yeah, it’s a weird rule, especially because they use the rulebook when citing suspensions and other stuff. I would imagine the competition committee has talked about it because there are so many little exceptions like the Colton-Hughes play. You can’t have guys purposefully not touching the puck to draw a penalty. There’s gamesmanship that happens in MMA around that with knees to a downed opponent. In some jurisdictions, you’re considered downed if your hand is on the ground, so guys will try to bait fouls by keeping their hand down. Everyone hates that. The simplest answer is yeah, there’s a lot of dumb/inconsistent stuff from the league. Attempting to give them credit, I would say it’s probably a really hard rule to actually write with a lot of exceptions. You’d have to call out stuff like “when two guys are going into the corner and getting a puck, it’s not interference to initiate body contact with no possession”. Instead, they rely on rule education videos and sessions that they share with the teams but not with the fans. Probably so they get less criticized when they inevitably break their case law by not suspending a guy despite them having called out that play in a video.
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Aye Doc posted:you don't know what save percentage is? Honestly with all that poo poo in the tweet I wasn't sure what I was looking at.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:sitting there with a stopwatch is kind of missing the point that it is a dumb play to coast into the boards and dare your opponent to guess whether you will or will not play the puck. it was certainly boarding, calling it interference because someone decided to put on the brakes instead of touch the puck doesn't happen in any league.
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Ergo Propter Hog posted:https://twitter.com/penguins/status/1723038138065391890 Oh hell yes
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th3t00t posted:You think it's not interference to hit a guy a full 2 seconds after he last touched the puck? How late does a hit have to be for it to be interference for you? nah, what I mean is that nothing Hughes did before heading towards the end boards actually affects that call -- they'd call it the same way even if he'd never had possession, because they consider him a legal target when a puck battle is imminent between two players racing for the puck. can you find that exception written in the rulebook? nope. but it's not just an NHL thing, it's pretty uniform.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Yeah well in case the subtext was blurry I'm continually pretty pissed off about hockey culture in general and don't like feeling uncomfortable watching the sport at all. But I will drop it as per popular request. I mean, I like this post. Solidarity amongst hockey comrades.  Hockey culture made my passion for the sport plummet in the mid-10s. For years it's been looking at scores and standings on google, checking out the social media folks who curate neat/funny moments, and relying on SAS threads to stay abreast of the finer details. It takes a plethora of persistent problems to cause a life-long Montréaler to stop consuming your product in a way that earns you revenue. Bravo NHL. Carver posted:Look, you have no idea how genuinely sorry I am that the Edmonton Oilers just didn't turn out to be what you wanted them to be. I gotta say that I truly love that wrestling promo references are so commonplace across so many sub-forums. The internet may have enabled the enshittification of everything that was one good, but at least this place is hanging in there as an oasis for good folks. kalensc fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Nov 10, 2023 |
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Matt Zerella posted:Honestly with all that poo poo in the tweet I wasn't sure what I was looking at.
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Matt Zerella posted:I still don't know what any of this means. First four are the stats which would substantiate the take that "thus far, the Oilers are top-4 or better at generating shots, scoring chances, and high-danger looks, which adds up to them being #1 in expected goals for". Second batch is "unfortunately their shooting percentage is woeful, thus their actuals goals for is anemic. Oh, also their goaltending has been absolute poo poo. And PDO is essentially luck/skill at shooting and luck/skill at saving combined, so yeah that value is atrocious!" Unspoken is the idea that they're attempting to explain why the team looks like rear end thus far, but at least the offense could sort itself out without major changes. The defense and goaltending however...
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Ya he's definitely still hurt. He missed a few shifts a couple games ago and once in a while he grabs at his side. He still was blowing by the pathetic Sharks D last night, just couldn't get one past Blackwood who had one of his best games last night as well.
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CBJSprague24 posted:This feels like one of those scenarios where a team that goes winless finally breaks through and rockets their way to Bettman .500 for some reason. Jamwad Hilder posted:the Oilers losing to the Sharks is very funny, but we cannot allow Edmonton to squander the career of another 1st overall pick, so they need to get better Ideally, the rest of his career will be squandered or not somewhere else. Misanthrope posted:Watching that awful (and at the same time awesome) game last night, McDavid has to be hurt. This is pretty impressive, tbh.
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Habibi posted:Have you seen the SJS roster? There is basically 0 chance of this scenario. Yeah, the last thing they need is a post hairdryer Vegas team
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Personally I think we should do a league wide Jagr jersey retirement like Gretzky - I can't think of a dude who's probably more deserving of the honour It won't happen though cus it's gonna take some miracle on ice poo poo to do that again
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They should retire his jersey for all the teams he played for, which is almost a third of the league
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trilljester posted:He still was blowing by the pathetic Sharks D last night, just couldn't get one past Blackwood who had one of his best games last night as well. He seems to skate in straight lines ok but he isn't pivoting like he normally can and his shot isn't very good probably cause he can't step and pivot onto one leg or the other the way he needs to.
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Matt Zerella posted:Honestly with all that poo poo in the tweet I wasn't sure what I was looking at. CF% is Corsi For Percentage. We all know that one; "Who took the most shots no matter what the end result was?" SCF% is Scoring Chances For Percentage. We are now asking "Okay they took the most shots but were they good shots?" HDCF% is High Danger Chances For Percentage. We are now asking "Okay they took the most shots, but were they good shots?" but with an accent. xGF% is Expected Goals For Percentage. You're going to want to sit down for this one: We are now asking "Okay they took the most shots, but were they good shots?" They're ranked very highly in all 4 which means the Oilers are the best team in the league right now at getting in the right spots and getting the shots off. The other 4 are ones everyone knows and they say that the Oilers are the worst team in the league, and also the world.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:He seems to skate in straight lines ok but he isn't pivoting like he normally can and his shot isn't very good probably cause he can't step and pivot onto one leg or the other the way he needs to. Sounds exactly like a guy carrying a hip or abdominal muscle injury
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Too bad the oilers don't play in the CHL. The Corsi Hockey League.
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Ginette Reno posted:I dunno if the Pens played particularly great against LA or Anaheim but they're (for the most part) forechecking more intelligently and not giving up an airport runway worth of space in the neutral zone. Pens played really well last night, the Rust "double" goal was hilarious.
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MaoistBanker posted:Pens played really well last night, the Rust "double" goal was hilarious. His celebration was pretty good. Signaling goal for himself. Imo the Kings outplayed them by at least a little bit but I'm happy to get those two points.
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Ginette Reno posted:His celebration was pretty good. Signaling goal for himself. Crazy how nearly all of the shakiest Kings performances this year have been at home. On the road they have been machines.
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68 getting retired in Pittsburgh is 100% deserved. The only reason it took so long is they wanted to be sure he didn't try another comeback. 
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https://twitter.com/JacketsInsider/status/1723043250376720671 Patty's gonna try to run Andersson and go right back on IR, isn't he? (Vincent definitely needs to roll out an old-school punchmans (somebody)-Voronkov-Olivier line for that one.)
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Not sure continuing to throw out Brendan Smith and his 33% xGF is the play tbh
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Furnaceface posted:Devils are a wildly inconsistent team this year huh? Going from Hughes to McLeod as your 1C will do that to a team
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Absolutely filthy passing from Skinner and TAGE to set up Peterka for this goal https://twitter.com/sabresplays/status/1723162339476725771?s=46&t=ZmcWuigp8va-srUE4rOQ8Q Edit: the Sabres are in 6th place in the Atlantic but only one point behind the 3rd place team and two behind the 2nd place team. The early season is pretty wild. Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Nov 11, 2023 |
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Better than Klingberg? Right now, obviously yes, and it’s pretty much the only way to make the salary work without cutting bait on Samsonov or some sort of retention scheme. But the Leafs kinda need Klingberg to work out, there aren’t any shooting threats or playmakers outside of Rielly on the back end. Adding Zadorov is more “sandpaper” but not a lot of needle moving imo.
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I still have vague hopes for Timmins. He's not a slick puckhandling wizard but he can pass the puck pretty well without being a liability. Unfortunately he may just be perpetually broken.
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The Sharks are back, baby.
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Connor Clifton is absolutely atrocious. How did Boston make him look even remotely serviceable
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Sabres won but looked really not good doing it? Levi looked good though CF% 40.74%, 80-55 SF% 41.67%, 35-25 SCF% 27.14%, 51-19 HDCF% 28.13%, 23-9 xGF% 30.84%, 4.74.-2.11
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I don't even know what he's valued at... But I do know he's big, he hits people and GMs are pretty stupid!
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https://twitter.com/dashinthepark/status/1723172778784985164 Jesus Christ Paul Coffey lmao
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