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Kempo
Oct 8, 2006

Weird Pumpkin posted:

SF6 will let you turn simple frame data and inputs on in replays

It's one of the best things they've added actually!

Somehow SPD'd my way to master without ever watching a replay, but I'll definitely be doing this now, thanks!

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Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010



SF6 really needs an off-screen marker for characters.

I lost that round because I hosed up the followup, because I couldn't see which side I was on.

Trucker Hat
Jul 25, 2021
I played a couple rounds in Battle Hub this morning and got to use Zangief's kick counter against a Ryu who kept spamming standing HK, I finally got to see all of my main's moves, feelsgood

Capital Letdown
Oct 5, 2006
i still cant fix red text avs someone tell me the bbcode for that im an admin and dont know this lmao
I had a good today, went on a 7 or 8 game streak and made it to plat 2 with Ryu.

I consistently use that specific combo mentioned in the thread after I land a drive impact, it’s a great tool to have in my pocket.

A few days ago I posted that I heard ryus 5mk is good and need to practice using it. Today I have been forcing myself to use it and turns out it’s a great kick. Turns out lots and lots of people will walk face first into it. It’s really good at stuffing Zangief.

I asked for minor ‘what do I learn from here’ tips and a couple weeks later pulled myself out of the one star plat bottom and am begging to cruise into plat 2.

Feelin good!

Hobojim
Oct 31, 2011


Congrats! I wish win streaks still have bonuses beyond gold, but since they don't, climbing through platinum/diamond is a rough grind sometimes. Well done!

Jeremor
Jun 1, 2009

Drop Your Nuts



Here I am hitting a wall at silver 3/4. Really annoying because I've fought enough master goons to know my opponents aren't that good, I just don't know how to punish them for it. Part of me is wondering if Luke is really the character for me. He's kind of good at everything, which almost gives me choice paralysis at times, or too many options for cool stuff I can't pull off. Just been frustrating and making me wonder if going back to somebody like guile might be more my style. I play pretty patiently and prefer being more of a counter puncher I guess.

interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity

Jeremor posted:

Here I am hitting a wall at silver 3/4. Really annoying because I've fought enough master goons to know my opponents aren't that good, I just don't know how to punish them for it. Part of me is wondering if Luke is really the character for me. He's kind of good at everything, which almost gives me choice paralysis at times, or too many options for cool stuff I can't pull off. Just been frustrating and making me wonder if going back to somebody like guile might be more my style. I play pretty patiently and prefer being more of a counter puncher I guess.

Luke is incredibly good at this with his insane normals. Post some replays and people can help you out.

Jeremor
Jun 1, 2009

Drop Your Nuts



A7P8VJ3T4

L4LB3448A

Those illustrate a really frustrating feeling for me right now, just not sure what to do about it. I know my DI is bad, I can't seem to get DR to work half the time, etc... I don't know, any tips welcome. Tired of being stuck here.

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

Jeremor posted:

A7P8VJ3T4

L4LB3448A

Those illustrate a really frustrating feeling for me right now, just not sure what to do about it. I know my DI is bad, I can't seem to get DR to work half the time, etc... I don't know, any tips welcome. Tired of being stuck here.

Can't watch the replays rn, but the bigger question to answer re: character is what do you want out of the character you play, and who do you vibe with?

Super Foul Egg
Oct 5, 2005
Don't take me for an ordinary man

Jeremor posted:

A7P8VJ3T4

L4LB3448A

Those illustrate a really frustrating feeling for me right now, just not sure what to do about it. I know my DI is bad, I can't seem to get DR to work half the time, etc... I don't know, any tips welcome. Tired of being stuck here.

Watched them both, unfortunately 80% of that frustration is probably just what it feels like to fight JP at any level. Nothing really jumps out as incongruous with your current rank, you show good ability to block, understand strike/throw mix and aren't wilding out incoherently, what's missing at the moment is ways to turn the stray normal hits you're getting into confirmed chunks of damage so that you need to win less interactions to win a round. No shortcuts there except practice I'm afraid.

If you work on reliable anti-airs, confirmable (i.e. safe) combo routes and more ways to approach than big jump kick (especially Drive Rush) it'll convert to overall rank increase very quickly.

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013
Getting better about waiting out the unga and consequently nailing a lot more anti airs too. Climbing pretty quick now. Probably out of bronze in the next session or two. Feels good.

The_Fuzzinator
Oct 9, 2007

I know now why you Cuddle. But it's something I can never do.

Jeremor posted:

A7P8VJ3T4

L4LB3448A

Those illustrate a really frustrating feeling for me right now, just not sure what to do about it. I know my DI is bad, I can't seem to get DR to work half the time, etc... I don't know, any tips welcome. Tired of being stuck here.

To add to what Super Foul Egg said,

when we played matches the other night I noticed the biggest thing was what they're talking about. you'd hit me a fair number of times, but you Tend to Mash 2mp twice which doesnt link into itself. You've got the game plan down, just not the execution. and for the rank you're playing people at, you should focus on a super simple stop them from doing wild poo poo.

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌
Had an amazing set as 2Plat Marisa versus a 3Plat Jamie. Really underlying the whole schtick in Fighting Games about how when you've worked out their poo poo the tide can turn dramatically.

How it started:

LGCR8T99V

How it ended:

XRGWERMT5

3-1 overall, but that last round. :v:

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011
https://twitter.com/AleksLeVO/status/1723209923289559055

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Aleks is one of the best things to happen to the series

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.

Waffleman_ posted:

Aleks is one of the best things to happen to the series

Of all the characters that he's played, it's amazing that Luke is the one that clicked with him the most

felked
Jul 4, 2023

Played a Blanka named Merton just now in casuals who has the Goons Garden tag. He was up on my Luke 9-0 and then I beat him. Immediately got the “match disconnected” error when the round ended lol. Made me laugh. If you are in here ggs thanks for matches I would have kept playing

felked fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Nov 11, 2023

Merton Blask
Jun 30, 2008

So it's true! Mysterio is
gay for sex... with me?

felked posted:

Played a Blanka named Merton just now in casuals who has the Goons Garden tag. He was up on my Luke 9-0 and then I beat him. Immediately got the “match disconnected” error when the round ended lol. Made me laugh. If you are in here ggs thanks for matches I would have kept playing

Oh man, I promise that wasn’t me disconnecting! It happened so quick after, I figured you were just holding out for a win and then dipped.

I’ll toss you a friend request next time I’m on, hit me up anytime and we’ll pick up where we left off.

Ps: ggs!

Merton Blask fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Nov 12, 2023

Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

(_!_)
Buglord
saw the most cursed avatar in the battle hub just now



https://i.imgur.com/5dOr8R4.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/HeouZy6.mp4

Bisse
Jun 26, 2005

Symbolic Butt posted:

saw the most cursed avatar in the battle hub just now



https://i.imgur.com/5dOr8R4.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/HeouZy6.mp4
SF6 is great, actually

DeadButDelicious
Oct 11, 2012

Leave me to do my dark bidding on the internet!
drat, Capcom snuck in Jimmy Carter as DLC?

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

lmao

Artelier
Jan 23, 2015


What is this Goons Garden tag thingy? I'm playing online sporadically but if there're benefits to being in a group...

Hobojim
Oct 31, 2011


Artelier posted:

What is this Goons Garden tag thingy? I'm playing online sporadically but if there're benefits to being in a group...

GoonsGarden is one of the two in-game clubs we have. I don't know that there's much benefit other than for fun, but I think you unlock stickers to use in battle hub chat or some nonsense lol

It does have a bulletin board you can post poo poo on and it gives you updates on who's doing what in the club if you care to look. Mostly I just like it because you can set private rooms to only allow friends and club members lol

You can see clubs from the CFN tab of the multi-menu in-game.

felked
Jul 4, 2023

Merton Blask posted:

Oh man, I promise that wasn’t me disconnecting! It happened so quick after, I figured you were just holding out for a win and then dipped.

I’ll toss you a friend request next time I’m on, hit me up anytime and we’ll pick up where we left off.

Ps: ggs!

I’d be in for sure. Wish this game had some kind of in game communication sometimes. I’m just happy you didn’t get pissed or something lol it was kind of a bummer for all that time playing together to end that way

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011
https://twitter.com/MyMyMavka/status/1723792042826883350

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

:hmmyes:

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Hahahahahaha I love this stupid community

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

She would though

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

So a very frustrating thing about Ryu is it feels like he has vastly fewer answers for DI than a lot of other characters. All of his special moves hit once for full damage instead of, for instance, the same moves from Ken, all of which do equivalent damage over several quick hits, which seems strictly superior since all of them beat DI armor without even having to use Drive Gauge.

As far as I can tell, the only Ryu special that breaks DI armor is OD tatsu, which I am not in the habit of throwing out raw since it turns you into a glowing punish piñata in the nearly certain instance that your opponent is not running blindly into your body with zero offense.

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013

SlimGoodbody posted:

So a very frustrating thing about Ryu is it feels like he has vastly fewer answers for DI than a lot of other characters. All of his special moves hit once for full damage instead of, for instance, the same moves from Ken, all of which do equivalent damage over several quick hits, which seems strictly superior since all of them beat DI armor without even having to use Drive Gauge.

As far as I can tell, the only Ryu special that breaks DI armor is OD tatsu, which I am not in the habit of throwing out raw since it turns you into a glowing punish piñata in the nearly certain instance that your opponent is not running blindly into your body with zero offense.

Playing guile I feel this. Though I feel like I've flash kicked through it on more than one occasion and I'm not sure what's up with that.

Been trying to stick to jab punishing as much as possible so I can counter cancel. Not relying on, or in a lot of cases forgetting that I have other cancelable things to stuff it with as well.

And man people throw it at just the weirdest times. Or at times that I know it's coming and miss it anyway, like not having enough charge for flash, limply jumping, only to land in front of a DI. Ugh.

unattended spaghetti fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Nov 13, 2023

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Few things make you feel like more of a goober than countering a DI with another DI, but forgetting you don't have enough health to soak the temporary damage

unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013

SlimGoodbody posted:

Few things make you feel like more of a goober than countering a DI with another DI, but forgetting you don't have enough health to soak the temporary damage

I'm just glad if I counter it. Proper expectations and all.

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Everything about JP sucks and he needs to be nerfed or SOMETHING my god, yes I am a pillar of salt right now. Bullet hell screen filling garbage, full screen command grabs that look the same as blockable fireballs, full screen teleport that looks like blockable fireball traps, ridiculous range on normals with his can, DI long enough it can hit you from round start, just feels absolutely awful to play against at any skill level

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007


Must have mod.

Bisse
Jun 26, 2005

SlimGoodbody posted:

Everything about JP sucks and he needs to be nerfed or SOMETHING my god, yes I am a pillar of salt right now. Bullet hell screen filling garbage, full screen command grabs that look the same as blockable fireballs, full screen teleport that looks like blockable fireball traps, ridiculous range on normals with his can, DI long enough it can hit you from round start, just feels absolutely awful to play against at any skill level

Counterpoint: JP is awesome actually and we need more extreme characters like him.

The only thing that bothers me with him is he knocks you away to full screen too easily, maybe nerf the knockback distance on his spin swipe special and then he good.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Bisse posted:

The only thing that bothers me with him is he knocks you away to full screen too easily, maybe nerf the knockback distance on his spin swipe special and then he good.

You're supposed to DI it.

Cat Machine
Jun 18, 2008

SlimGoodbody posted:

So a very frustrating thing about Ryu is it feels like he has vastly fewer answers for DI than a lot of other characters. All of his special moves hit once for full damage instead of, for instance, the same moves from Ken, all of which do equivalent damage over several quick hits, which seems strictly superior since all of them beat DI armor without even having to use Drive Gauge.

As far as I can tell, the only Ryu special that breaks DI armor is OD tatsu, which I am not in the habit of throwing out raw since it turns you into a glowing punish piñata in the nearly certain instance that your opponent is not running blindly into your body with zero offense.
Breaking Drive Impact with multi-hit moves is generally not advised for any character outside of a few specialists like Jamie or Honda; I don't think Ken is even particularly great at DI-breaking with his regular offensive, so I'd be interested in knowing what moves he's doing to beat your DI on a consistent basis. If someone is beating your specials with DIs, I imagine they have a solid read on when you are doing those moves and are being rewarded for it - that's one of the main reasons DI exists in this game.

If you are on the offense and someone defensively DIs, your best bet is usually to cancel off whatever normal you were using and turn it into a DI. For Ryu that's LP, MP, HP, LK, 2LP, 2MP, 2HP, 2MK, 4HP and 4HK - a pretty fuckin good array of normals that can become drive impacts. If someone is DI-happy, you should centre your offense on these normals and have a finger or two ready on the DI button.

Try setting the training dummy to randomly DI on block or on hit and then approach it with your DI-cancellable normals and see if you can correctly counter-DI their attempts.

Trillhouse
Dec 31, 2000

https://twitter.com/Rainbow6Game/status/1723785371211669868
literally thought this was either a joke or a poorly done create-a-player.

enjoy chum lee and ryan

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unattended spaghetti
May 10, 2013

SlimGoodbody posted:

Everything about JP sucks and he needs to be nerfed or SOMETHING my god, yes I am a pillar of salt right now. Bullet hell screen filling garbage, full screen command grabs that look the same as blockable fireballs, full screen teleport that looks like blockable fireball traps, ridiculous range on normals with his can, DI long enough it can hit you from round start, just feels absolutely awful to play against at any skill level

The command grab has a specific audio cue.

In bronze 4 I rarely see him. I'm really surprised; he seems like a total scrub killer.

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