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Apr 18, 2009

Preechr posted:

Gonna laugh so hard when it turns out we are actually Inquisitor Grendyl, after extensive plastic surgery and mind-wiping in furtherance of some deep-cover conspiracy-breaking.



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The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Any release date on the new content?

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

The Demilich posted:

Any release date on the new content?
Nothing concrete. The PC exclusive Vanguard cosmetics require you to have played between the 10th and 17th of November and they said that the cosmetics will be made available at the end of November, presumably when the Traitor's Curse part 1 is released, with Part 2 slated for a more nebulous December release.

Thirsty Dog
May 31, 2007

Squatch Ambassador posted:

You'll probably need to try disabling them one at a time. Some can be disabled from their in-game menu, others need to be removed from the load order file. Darkcache would be a good one to check first.

Vortex support for Darktide is in beta now, but I haven't tried it yet.

Turns out the Preview Cosmetics mod (surprise!) was the culprit, and has been removed from Nexus as well.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Tried moving on from knife zealot in damnation to an eviscerator and hammer so I could complete my last class achievements.

These weapons suck.

Tagichatn
Jun 7, 2009

The Demilich posted:

Tried moving on from knife zealot in damnation to an eviscerator and hammer so I could complete my last class achievements.

These weapons suck.

I've never read a more wrong opinion. At the very least, the hammer and eviscerator don't give you an rsi.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'm not keen on the thunder hammer just yet but the eviscerator absolutely fucks poo poo up.

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

The thunder hammer is a weird niche. Against chaff you have to deliberately slow yourself down because you're going to knock enemies around without killing them and it is impolite to make a big mess without cleaning it up. It does big single target damage, which can potentially make you feel like a team hero, or it can make you feel completely useless if other characters on your team have better single target deletion strategies (sniper vet or assassin psyker both do the job slightly faster). In the right hands the hammer is a good, well-rounded tool that can control groups and stagger most enemies but going from feeling like an unstoppable dervish to a slow, methodical killer can take some adjustment. In the wrong hands the hammer leaves you feeling slow and vulnerable, and it can leave behind weaker enemies for your party to deal with if the Zealot in question doesn't believe in doing the dishes.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



What perks/blessings combos are supposed to jazz up the eviscerator and the two thunder hammers?
I tried building a few up and they just feel bad compared to my blender of death knife build.

Nothing more fun than charging up the hammer to hit something my allies already killed, what a slow as gently caress animation :black101:

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



Mendrian posted:

The thunder hammer is a weird niche. Against chaff you have to deliberately slow yourself down because you're going to knock enemies around without killing them and it is impolite to make a big mess without cleaning it up. It does big single target damage, which can potentially make you feel like a team hero, or it can make you feel completely useless if other characters on your team have better single target deletion strategies (sniper vet or assassin psyker both do the job slightly faster). In the right hands the hammer is a good, well-rounded tool that can control groups and stagger most enemies but going from feeling like an unstoppable dervish to a slow, methodical killer can take some adjustment. In the wrong hands the hammer leaves you feeling slow and vulnerable, and it can leave behind weaker enemies for your party to deal with if the Zealot in question doesn't believe in doing the dishes.

Any tips/links on an assassin Psyker build? I'd be interested to check it out, might be worth bringing into chance to spawn monsters lobbies as without dedicated bosskill I've had some runs to south due to that reason.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


The Demilich posted:

What perks/blessings combos are supposed to jazz up the eviscerator


Perks: +Crit and your choice of Flak/maniac/unarmored, which ever allows you to hit a break point.
Blessings: Shred and Brutal Momentum.

You want to run it the same as a knife bleed build, you just hit things harder with less clicks. So something like this:


There are two points floating for your preference.

The ironhelm hammer sucks now, and the Crucis is the one that is preferred. You probably want to turn it into a boss deleter with Thrust/Headtaker Blessings, and Unyielding/Unarmored(?) as perks. I don't really use the Thunderhammer so that's a guess as best.

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


I am running the Ironhelm and it seems pretty versatile with a different utility from the eviscerator. Mine rolled a bunch of impact blessings so if I am hitting a Rager it doesn't fight back. It feels like the charge sweeps through hordes and procs on important targets, and even at max martyr stacks it feels heavy to swing. It can clear hordes and nuke bosses but really benefits from switching between it and a strong gun.

The eviscerator is definitely a "this weapon is almost too good" weapon, you just need to learn its swing patterns.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Charge attack followed by regular swing occasionally Rev attack for deleting a mauler or mutant.

megane
Jun 20, 2008



The evis's unique trait is that revved heavies will cleave through mooks instead of getting stuck on the first one. Similarly, the ironhelm hammer's charged-up attack will ignore a few mooks and only go off when it hits a "real" target.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
It's really hard to move off the absurd speed from the dagger and how much it can save you, with the patch 13 buffs it carves hordes up with left clicks and the patch even gave it a 25% backstab bonus, it melts bosses.

I go to the eviscerate, rev up a heavy hit on a crushers head and it continues it's overhead crush unphased while I'm stuck to it with nowhere to go and I get sad.

skaianDestiny
Jan 13, 2017

beep boop

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

It's really hard to move off the absurd speed from the dagger and how much it can save you, with the patch 13 buffs it carves hordes up with left clicks and the patch even gave it a 25% backstab bonus, it melts bosses.

I go to the eviscerate, rev up a heavy hit on a crushers head and it continues it's overhead crush unphased while I'm stuck to it with nowhere to go and I get sad.

What are you talking about? All enemies save for bosses get interrupted/stunned while being sawed by a chain weapon.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

skaianDestiny posted:

What are you talking about? All enemies save for bosses get interrupted/stunned while being sawed by a chain weapon.

Maybe mine's defective?
https://i.imgur.com/i3AOKB2.mp4

Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Nov 12, 2023

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

https://i.imgur.com/yN7fDWi.mp4

uncalled for!
Dec 26, 2006

The Demilich posted:

What perks/blessings combos are supposed to jazz up the eviscerator and the two thunder hammers?

Legit Businessman posted:

Perks: +Crit and your choice of Flak/maniac/unarmored, which ever allows you to hit a break point.
Blessings: Shred and Brutal Momentum.



the eviscerator doesn't get brutal momentum. You want a cleave blessing (Savage Sweep or Wrath) plus whatever else you like. I used to prefer Momentum for the survivability, but Shred makes the evi a great alternative to the knife for crit builds

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


Reiley posted:

I am running the Ironhelm and it seems

I take back the nice things I was saying about the Ironhelm.

I'm gonna have a lot of fun with this thing.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


uncalled for! posted:

the eviscerator doesn't get brutal momentum. You want a cleave blessing (Savage Sweep or Wrath) plus whatever else you like. I used to prefer Momentum for the survivability, but Shred makes the evi a great alternative to the knife for crit builds

Rampage. I meant Rampage. I do not know if you need a cleave blessing. I haven't missed it on the eviserators I have.

apostateCourier
Oct 9, 2012


The Demilich posted:

Tried moving on from knife zealot in damnation to an eviscerator and hammer so I could complete my last class achievements.

These weapons suck.

The purpose of the Crucis Mk II Thunder Hammer is to remove Monstrosities from the field in the minimum possible time. If you build for it, you can eliminate even difficulty 5 Monstrosities in two swings, three if you miss the weak spot.

uncalled for!
Dec 26, 2006

Legit Businessman posted:

Rampage. I meant Rampage. I do not know if you need a cleave blessing. I haven't missed it on the eviserators I have.

Oh yeah, rampage is great on eviscerator. try pairing it with savage sweep or wrath and get that extra damage out to more of the horde

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



I've been enjoying power sword on my vet but I think I want to try the devils claw. What are the best perks for it? I seem to get 'hammerblow' rolled constantly on them whenever I see them.

e: I have also been waiting for weeks to get a decent revolver for my zealot and I just can't seem to get one. It's been driving me crazy!

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

I submit to you that this is Joan D'arktide, human zealot:



I see this face and hair on zealots all the drat time. (And not just because it's on my zealot, too.)

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
And does she also have the psychotic Scottish accent because hair colour aside that's me Zealot too. Though I have considered going for the undercut Bob hairstyle once I get some headgear.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

I have the goofy grandiose one because the first time I heard "MASTERSEEMYDEEDS!" when she charged I was like "holy poo poo I have to remake my zealot right loving now"

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

So, with all the push for the Columnus V autogun for Veterans (which I'm greatly enjoying, don't get me wrong at all)... what melee weapon are you guys bringing with it? Right now I'm sitting on two "decent" melee weapons, and a lot of stuff that could be better that I can't upgrade for shortage of plasteel:


The axe is great for specials/elites, no doubt about it. I like its attack pattern overall, with one glaring problem: it can't deal with hordes for poo poo, and no cleave blessing isn't helping that. (I don't have much of a library of blessings above I/II yet for any weapon.) The autogun can deal with hordes to some degree, but ammo is always a problem if I try using it that way (even with the ammo regen aura, unless it's a dog wave), so I've been trying to use the chainsword instead. The chainsword... isn't great. My roll isn't great on it, so it's two hits to kill a lot of basic enemies and more for specials. It's better at hordes due to all the cleave, but it still can't keep up for poo poo.

What weapon should I try and aim for as a good companion to the autogun? I love using the Eviscerator but for obvious reasons that's not available here. Other than that I really haven't found many melee weapons I like in this game overall, the gunplay feels a lot better than the melee.

e: wow I really am out of plasteel

SkyeAuroline fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Nov 12, 2023

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

SkyeAuroline posted:

So, with all the push for the Columnus V autogun for Veterans (which I'm greatly enjoying, don't get me wrong at all)... what melee weapon are you guys bringing with it? Right now I'm sitting on two "decent" melee weapons, and a lot of stuff that could be better that I can't upgrade for shortage of plasteel:


The axe is great for specials/elites, no doubt about it. I like its attack pattern overall, with one glaring problem: it can't deal with hordes for poo poo, and no cleave blessing isn't helping that. (I don't have much of a library of blessings above I/II yet for any weapon.) The autogun can deal with hordes to some degree, but ammo is always a problem if I try using it that way (even with the ammo regen aura, unless it's a dog wave), so I've been trying to use the chainsword instead. The chainsword... isn't great. My roll isn't great on it, so it's two hits to kill a lot of basic enemies and more for specials. It's better at hordes due to all the cleave, but it still can't keep up for poo poo.

What weapon should I try and aim for as a good companion to the autogun? I love using the Eviscerator but for obvious reasons that's not available here. Other than that I really haven't found many melee weapons I like in this game overall, the gunplay feels a lot better than the melee.

e: wow I really am out of plasteel


Chainsword is great, you just happen to be rocking a terrible blessing one. Getting Rampage on a chainsword is more than enough for hordes and bruises, you should be using your gun on elites and specialists anyway. Vet doesn't use melee to deal with anything larger than chaff imo.

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Evil Kit posted:

Chainsword is great, you just happen to be rocking a terrible blessing one. Getting Rampage on a chainsword is more than enough for hordes and bruises, you should be using your gun on elites and specialists anyway. Vet doesn't use melee to deal with anything larger than chaff imo.

Should've said "this chainsword isn't great" instead, I know it can be good. Wasn't sure if there was a better direction to go in though.

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

SkyeAuroline posted:

Should've said "this chainsword isn't great" instead, I know it can be good. Wasn't sure if there was a better direction to go in though.

fair. Tbh all you need is Rampage, I've been rocking a Rampage/Rev It Up Chainsword for going fast memes but you can add any other combat blessing with Rampage and have a very mean melee option.

Perks are kinda irrelevant tbh, it's nice to have Flak/Maniac/Unarmored by most of what you're gonna be hitting are pox walkers and groaners so it's sorta moot.

40 Proof Listerine
Jul 1, 2007

Baroness Kanan-Zelaya of the minor House of Carbon

SkyeAuroline posted:

So, with all the push for the Columnus V autogun for Veterans (which I'm greatly enjoying, don't get me wrong at all)... what melee weapon are you guys bringing with it? ...

What weapon should I try and aim for as a good companion to the autogun? I love using the Eviscerator but for obvious reasons that's not available here. Other than that I really haven't found many melee weapons I like in this game overall, the gunplay feels a lot better than the melee.

That's a perfectly workable chainsword you've got there, the extra cleave on hit from Wrath can substitute until you get savage sweep (huge cleave gain on hitting 3 or more folks) and the shredder special can take care of ogryns and lone ragers - more than one rager you want to use the autogun.

Use the lights on small groups and the heavies on big crowds, along with the push attacks.

If you take Krak grenades for carapace and the right side rending on continued hit you can be a little more flexible with the autogun and can use a Devil's Claw for crowds or even a nice combat knife with any combination of Lacerate, Mercy Killer, Uncanny Strike, or Flesh Tearer. The Shovel is also an incredible crowd flattening tool, especially with Decimator, Uncanny Strike, Skullcrusher, or Hammerblow.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

I just use devil claw for every vet build, good all rounder weapon.

Every vet has pretty great options for armor and elite clear from both their main guns in colomnus or plasma, or from the krak grenades that I don't really care to specialize my melee towards it.

Exodee
Mar 30, 2011

Damp and depressing.
It must be a goon in its
natural habitat!

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Maybe mine's defective?
You gotta use a heavy attack when revved to stunlock Crushers, in the video you're doing lights. Still think rev damage is a bit dissapointing though, especially when compared to the regular chainsword.

MuffinsAndPie
May 20, 2015

Sharkopath posted:

I just use devil claw for every vet build, good all rounder weapon.

Every vet has pretty great options for armor and elite clear from both their main guns in colomnus or plasma, or from the krak grenades that I don't really care to specialize my melee towards it.

The devil claw is just really fun. Rager hordes are a highlight of a run if they're there, that parry move just shreds them

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Legit Businessman posted:

Perks: +Crit and your choice of Flak/maniac/unarmored, which ever allows you to hit a break point.
Blessings: Shred and Brutal Momentum.

You want to run it the same as a knife bleed build, you just hit things harder with less clicks. So something like this:


There are two points floating for your preference.

The ironhelm hammer sucks now, and the Crucis is the one that is preferred. You probably want to turn it into a boss deleter with Thrust/Headtaker Blessings, and Unyielding/Unarmored(?) as perks. I don't really use the Thunderhammer so that's a guess as best.

uncalled for! posted:

the eviscerator doesn't get brutal momentum. You want a cleave blessing (Savage Sweep or Wrath) plus whatever else you like. I used to prefer Momentum for the survivability, but Shred makes the evi a great alternative to the knife for crit builds

This helped a lot, mine currently has Shred 4 and Momentum 3, I think I'll swap momentum out to see if it becomes even better


Reiley posted:

The eviscerator is definitely a "this weapon is almost too good" weapon, you just need to learn its swing patterns.

Yeah the pattern has felt off for me for massive hordes. I've settled on heavy>push+push attack>heavy, but I'll pepper in light attacks when I get a chance since they're so much faster

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz
As a Vet I've always liked the devil's claw, and the knife, I've recently been noodling about with the chainsword but I have to say I keep going back to the shovel. It's great horde clear, decent stagger and goes clonk. I'm currently switching between Plasmagun / Frag grenades and Columuns Infantry Autogun / Krak grenades so I've got my elites & specials on lock, in both cases I'm going down the middle tree ( Voice of command, Duty and Honor and For The Emperor ) because in Damnation buffing the team seems the most useful, every time I go into Executioner's Stance and ADS it's like I've hit a button to summon a groaner to spawn behind me and try to stab me in the back.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Alright, I've seen enough. On Vet with appropriate talents, this thing is a loving beast. If you come across something similar, test it out with a shouty build.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Internet Explorer posted:

Alright, I've seen enough. On Vet with appropriate talents, this thing is a loving beast. If you come across something similar, test it out with a shouty build.



I've been using a similar laspistol and a chainsword on my sergeant vet, feels great

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ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
I started a vet since my ogryn hit 30 and so far its not that interesting.

The knife is the best melee so far and i have no idea if guns are actually supposed to be effective against elites but they do not feel like they are. But im only like level 9 atm so we will see what happens

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