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I feel a bit stuck in a rut where most of my victories end up being domination or diplomacy, cultural victories in particular are elusive for me, even when playing civs that specialise in it the opposing civs always seem to have a significant leg up in that regard.
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Religious victory is just domination by another name, so that might be a quickie diversion which is familiar. Note that it tends to win early, such as medieval or renaissance, so plan accordingly. Cultural victory is typically a long slog, as you have to finish the tech tree and have faith to burn. The only real way to accelerate it is to absolutely blow everyone out of the park with unusually early tourism, often from relics. Nzinga Mbande (Kongo's alternate leader) is great for that with their OP relics, so found a religion with reliquaries and go ham. It's a very different experience, and also turn on heroes as heroic relics count. Remember it's not actually culture that's the win-con, but tourism, so don't feel bad if some AI is outstripping you in the purple resource midgame.
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Nov 11, 2023 03:33
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Culture is my most frequent wincon, I have done it with relics but usually just gunning for great writers/artists/musicians works well. Between theming and the tourism policies from later in the culture tree your tourism output just explodes around the industrial and modern eras. Archeology is also great, the AI never does it so you can just gobble up all the artifacts and theme them, too. The great scientist that makes all archeological relics +%300 tourism is bananas. Side note on archaeologists: each time they loot a relic is +1 era score. They have three charges, so each archeologist built is 3 era score. Pretty awesome you can build that. Serephina posted:Remember it's not actually culture that's the win-con, but tourism, so don't feel bad if some AI is outstripping you in the purple resource midgame. Yeah, it's really counterintuitive that culture doesn't get you a culture victory. Tourism output is obscured so unless you know what you're doing it can be hard to understand exactly what the gently caress is going on.
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Nov 11, 2023 03:44
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The thing about culture is that it becomes almost trivially easy once you realize that AI civs are more than willing to give you any number of their great works if you’ve got the gold to pay for it, so there’s no need for you to hard invest your economy into theater districts except for when you need slots to put your purchases into. This means you can focus on generating tourism from other sources, be that wonder spam, national park spam, religious relics or whatever else. And as a bonus, buying away AI great works reduces their culture output as a side consequence, making it even easier to win the game.
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Nov 11, 2023 04:30
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I know it was like this in other games but do scouts still get a bonus for looting villages in 6? e.g. more likely to get population/builder vs. other rewards.
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Nov 11, 2023 06:08
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Xerol posted:I know it was like this in other games but do scouts still get a bonus for looting villages in 6? e.g. more likely to get population/builder vs. other rewards. no, only the Natural Wonder XP bonus
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Nov 11, 2023 06:18
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They get a chunk of xp, nothing more. You COULD take the double-scout-xp policy card instead of +5 vs barbs, but that's a lot of effort and RNG to just have them claw themselves back to the baseline they had in previous games. Of course playing on higher difficulty those goodie huts mostly just go straight to the computer players....
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Nov 11, 2023 06:19
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Just did a very silly African and Mediterranean only TSL huge earth game. chose Shaka and watched the northern sea collapse into bloodshed almost immediately while I took over Kongo and befriended Ethiopia and Sumer. Total mess. Egypt lost their capital to loyalty almost immediately and by the end of the game, it was just me, Rome, Byzantium, Spain, and my allies. I was the only one that colonized the empty map before it filled up with city states.
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Nov 11, 2023 07:26
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Julius Caesar is absolutely broken on marathon. Being able to farm 1k gold every 8 turns early game will shoot you so far ahead of everyone else its insane.
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Nov 12, 2023 07:53
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Speaking of Caesar, I'm generally a big fan of the game's art style in spite of other people's disdain for it, I think most of the leaders look great, but even I have to admit that the leader pass additions really seem off to me and just do not look good. Caesar and Ramesses get it the worst, I just cringe looking at them and their weird proportions and awkward animations. Nothing can measure up to my boy Kupe.
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Nov 12, 2023 14:48
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khwarezm posted:Speaking of Caesar, I'm generally a big fan of the game's art style in spite of other people's disdain for it, I think most of the leaders look great, but even I have to admit that the leader pass additions really seem off to me and just do not look good. Caesar and Ramesses get it the worst, I just cringe looking at them and their weird proportions and awkward animations. I think Caesar and Ramses are closer to how the style was originally before it was changed after popular demand. If you don't know: 
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khwarezm posted:Nothing can measure up to my boy Kupe. I'm a big fan of Philip's extremely overbearing, smug attitude when you're his friend. You're his scamp, and he knows it.
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Nov 12, 2023 16:21
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Any idea why I don't seem to have Julius Caesar when I have everyone else and the leader pass?
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Nov 12, 2023 18:53
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Stefan Prodan posted:Any idea why I don't seem to have Julius Caesar when I have everyone else and the leader pass? You gotta link your 2K account. Should be an option in the launcher.
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Nov 12, 2023 18:56
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That worked, thanks!
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Julius Caesar is terribly historically inaccurate I'm told, but he's still ok to look at. Ramses, imo, is a disaster. I'm not sure if it's a too-literal interpretation of some drawing, or the lack of small details in the clothing, or something. It's not that he's caricature, it's just that the model seems so much more primitive than its peers. Compare it to Cleo's new outfit in the same pack. edit: And Kupe is hilarious, he's perfect. Combined with the voice actor he really does come off like someone's sarcastic mate from down the road.
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Serephina posted:Julius Caesar is terribly historically inaccurate I'm told, but he's still ok to look at. Ramses, imo, is a disaster. I'm not sure if it's a too-literal interpretation of some drawing, or the lack of small details in the clothing, or something. It's not that he's caricature, it's just that the model seems so much more primitive than its peers. Compare it to Cleo's new outfit in the same pack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXvrCskQWbQ I just hate his stupid little head and massive arms, it just strikes me as a clumsy design, and his denounce animation looks terrible. Also its noticeable that he doesn't even pronounce his own name correctly, I don't even speak Latin and I know that Classical Latin used a hard C. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUDTxBx4OHQ Trajan looks so much better, its a much more coherent and svelte design, he's got a nice sense of imperiousness in his sharp features. He reminds me of Caesar (funnily enough) from the Asterix comics, which can't be a coincidence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w64scyeG2DQ I cannot stand Ramesses. Everything just feels off, I hate his tiny little arms, I hate his weird looking face, I hate the way his outfit looks like a cheap Halloween costume even though I know its based on a real image. It sort of seems they were trying to base him to some degree on reconstructions of his face, but he looks a lot better there than in game. If I had it my way I'd make his clothing seem a lot more grand, I'd make his hat bigger (it certainly looks bigger in most Egyptian imagery) and I'd make his crook much longer, more in line with what you see again in ancient Egyptian representations of the Crook and Flail, also its kind of weird that he only has the crook and not the flail, why have one and not the other? Oddly for most of the other leader pass additions my complaints are that they just look too dull, the likes of Ludwig and Sejong seem like the most boring possible interpretations of Civ VI's art style and they accordingly took the wrong turn into the uncanny valley.
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ded posted:Julius Caesar is absolutely broken on marathon. Being able to farm 1k gold every 8 turns early game will shoot you so far ahead of everyone else its insane. I am currently 300 turns into a run with these settings (deity obviously) and it has been my favorite civilization experience of my entire life, over 15 years of playing.
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Nov 13, 2023 23:54
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Judgy Fucker posted:And what's the 11 and 4 on the city's pop number (and what mod is that, too)? iirc those numbers are turns until citizen growth and turns until border growth. CQUI and CQUI Lite both do that, maybe other mods as well
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The turns to citizen growth is part of the base UI, that's the little white 2 in the top right corner. At a glance, I'd wager it's surplus food; city is probably producing 8 food, while having 2 citizens who would consume 2 food each, leaving 4 as the surplus.
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Nov 14, 2023 13:23
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Any opintions on the new FOMO event? I'm about to fire it up, and it's an interesting choice for no-barbs, but the limited time thing makes me give this the side-eye. edit: orrrrr I would if the drat game would drat well launch, lol. Serephina fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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I've been playing a Zombies game with my buddy since yesterday. In our previous games together every once in awhile the non-host player would get a loading screen at the turn transition. No big deal, we're an ocean apart so I guess I get it. In the new patch the behavior has changed, now we both get a full minute of nothing happening at all before the non-host gets the loading screen, and it seems to happen almost every turn. So that's not great. All I want to do is finish the achievements before this thing rattles itself to pieces.
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:I've been playing a Zombies game with my buddy since yesterday. In our previous games together every once in awhile the non-host player would get a loading screen at the turn transition. No big deal, we're an ocean apart so I guess I get it. In the new patch the behavior has changed, now we both get a full minute of nothing happening at all before the non-host gets the loading screen, and it seems to happen almost every turn. I don't know why, but once this starts happening, it won't stop happening on that save file. And it seems much more likely to happen if you load a save from a previous day. Not much to do but abandon the game afaik 
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harrygomm posted:iirc those numbers are turns until citizen growth and turns until border growth. CQUI and CQUI Lite both do that, maybe other mods as well The 11 is border growth, the 4 is surplus housing (turns yellow when you're at <1). And yeah it's CQUI.
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Serephina posted:Any opintions on the new FOMO event? the what
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Microplastics posted:the what if you start the game the main menu has a special promoted time limited scenario
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Microplastics posted:the what 
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Oh god, they put an in-game advertisement ticker. loving shocking. edit: the Scenario is with no expansions/DLC enabled. I, too, enjoy having industrial districts do absolutely nothing. Serephina fucked around with this message at 09:37 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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poo poo Fuckasaurus posted:I've been playing a Zombies game with my buddy since yesterday. In our previous games together every once in awhile the non-host player would get a loading screen at the turn transition. No big deal, we're an ocean apart so I guess I get it. In the new patch the behavior has changed, now we both get a full minute of nothing happening at all before the non-host gets the loading screen, and it seems to happen almost every turn. If you can live with playing strictly coop (or not peeking like it's GoldenEye on the N64), using Steam's remote play for hotseat fixes any multiplayer issues this and Civ5 ever had.
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Serephina posted:edit: the Scenario is with no expansions/DLC enabled. Lmao glad I noped out of that as soon as the game loaded and I saw it was 1350 AD And thanks for the mod answers re: little numbers on the city name plate
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Judgy Fucker posted:Lmao glad I noped out of that as soon as the game loaded and I saw it was 1350 AD Yea I half played it out, totally not worth anybody's time. Spoilers for the seed: So you start out on an island alone, with 1k gold, NO BARBS so there's nothing to do but goldfish as hard as you can as Pericles. The era that they start you in lets you explore and find all the others players rather quick once you research caravels, but honestly why bother attacking them? You also have no religion and even if you rush one like I did it won't do much for you, as it's VANILLA GAME RELIGIONS where half the beliefs suck unless you convert the whole world, which it's kinda late to start on that. Honestly super boring, and with nothing to do (and Vanilla rules) I couldn't tell if the game eras where going by faster than normal speed, lol.
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it looks like it's a proof of concept for something (I doubt it's Civ7), so the next one should show us an actually interesting challenge my theory: development is so far behind they need some new replyability feature to paper over the time to the next true release
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this event is weird as poo poo because the game rules are all wrong. and i kind of suck at culture victory unless its on accident edit : the island it starts you on has 1 lux resource. and its far south of you in tundra. nearly every other bit of land will be taken by the time you can boat a settler made turn 1 over to another continent ded fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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If there’s a less-poo poo monthly set scenario I might reinstall and try a couple runs at it. lmao if they’re all like this though
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Goa Tse-tung posted:my theory: development is so far behind they need some new replyability feature to paper over the time to the next true release It has to be this. Unless they are ready to announce VII in a couple months, and they somehow think that a series of disjointed events will generate hype.
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Idk I think it’s just what a lot of games do these days regardless of how things are going. Constant engagement is always good I guess. Like I think AoE 2/4 do a lot of seasonable do-“quests”-for-cosmetic stuff.
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This thread is a great source of gaming doomer-boomer quotes, ngl
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Honestly the idea of a fixed-seed casual competition seems appealing to me, it's a cheap and easy way of doing interesting starts with communal strategy talks without something as full-on as the scenarios. They way they've gone about it however, from the weird patching bugs (which other steam users had) to shoving an ingame banner ad on the menu to the cherry of top of the scenario being actually awful; it's a disaster. The Steam page's announcement has a ton of negativity in the comments, but not about the feature itself. Anyone got the scoop on what toxic gamer bullshit that's all about?
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We could just do our own thing here, someone just generate a seed and we just kinda post however much we want about how our game went and what score we ended up with on what difficulty or whatever I dunno
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Serephina posted:Honestly the idea of a fixed-seed casual competition seems appealing to me, it's a cheap and easy way of doing interesting starts with communal strategy talks without something as full-on as the scenarios. They way they've gone about it however, from the weird patching bugs (which other steam users had) to shoving an ingame banner ad on the menu to the cherry of top of the scenario being actually awful; it's a disaster. I haven't been on CFC in over a decade (is it still around even?) but they used to do a game of the month going back to at least civ3 times, and it was pretty much the same thing - here's a set seed (I think they just passed around a starting save file), and a goal, who can do it best. I'd be down for something like that.
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