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Zodium posted:and that hatred produces support for israel. that's why the likud strategy of conflating zionism and judaism works. the anti-semitic guy saw a star of david necklace in the gym changing room and assumed the wearer was a zionist based on that, then called him jødesvin (a pretty serious danish slur against jewish people) as he was leaving, and thus he will be leaving for israel because that's the only place he can feel safe to wear a star of david in public. as far as anything this article reports goes, netanyahu could not have asked for a better result. it's a textbook case of how conflating zionism and judaism produces support for israel, but the article doesn't itself conflate the two. do you actually believe this anonymously published anecdote from a private biased danish citizen? let’s say it was true. obviously it could be— how is a random danish racist making a comment giving Netanyahu exactly what he wants? do you think that even if antisemitism were on the rise that their actions in Gaza would be justified? I think you’re twisting yourself into knots trying to say the right words while responding to propaganda and that’s probably closer to what the western disinformation campaign wants
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Regarde Aduck posted:let this post be a little warning to others: this is why you should take breaks from the thread now and again Sorry, but I'm built different (not a racist.)
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RedSky posted:Providing the rationale for the GWOT is good actually victims aren’t responsible for atrocities visited upon them no matter how many flimsy justifications are manufactured. nothing about the event was a reasonable rationale for the GWOT. quit using fascist language
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Yeah, this makes a lot of sense, it's just so incredibly enraging to see media outlets parroting stuff that make absolutely no sense without any pushback or criticism.
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"Just hold on a minute, let me pull out my rape manual" loving hell lmao https://twitter.com/Israel/status/1723759157960953981?t=EzjokSD5I9aHxH1miqkv0A&s=19 It also seems that Israel isn't great with Hebrew since "Torid" is the MALE version of "pull down", or maybe they intentionally wrote it slightly wrong to make it seem authentic or whatever.
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Vomik posted:do you think that even if antisemitism were on the rise that their actions in Gaza would be justified? 
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Sancho Banana posted:"Just hold on a minute, let me pull out my rape manual" it's not even arabic grammar correct and isnt even the word for pants and isnt even using feminine wording lol.
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Sancho Banana posted:"Just hold on a minute, let me pull out my rape manual" maybe it's for that general they captured
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Jizzny Princess posted:https://twitter.com/AlnaouqA/status/1723466246539124738 BeanpolePeckerwood posted:blessed
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:maybe it's for that general they captured Unnecessary, his pants dropped on their own from the weight of the poo poo he took upon seeing opponents who weren't unarmed children.
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Cold on a Cob posted:I can't vouch for the accuracy but: https://twitter.com/SLCLunk/status/1723738249141899317?t=INh1KohGrAaRvtr2HLGaDA&s=19
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Sancho Banana posted:"Just hold on a minute, let me pull out my rape manual" it’s like watching a child try to do misdirection magic tricks for the first time, except horrifying and incredibly racist.
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Vomik posted:victims aren’t responsible for atrocities visited upon them no matter how many flimsy justifications are manufactured. nothing about the event was a reasonable rationale for the GWOT. quit using fascist language No poo poo. Edit: If you saw the two posts above the one you quoted it may recontextualise what I said, which was a flippant shitpost. Go for a walk or something you'll feel better. RedSky has issued a correction as of 19:26 on Nov 12, 2023 |
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Sancho Banana posted:"Just hold on a minute, let me pull out my rape manual" lmfao
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/drelidavid/status/1723429499109339621?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA lol why would they put the baby on the “evil” side like you’re not supposed to actually say that part!
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/drelidavid/status/1723429499109339621?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA lol imagine putting the bbc on the side of good
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Blaisedell posted:lol imagine putting the bbc on the side of good I think the cartoonist is saying all reporters are evil and must be killed for having eyes that witness things.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/drelidavid/status/1723429499109339621?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA did he mean to draw the idf guy as a 12 year old child soldier
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Pookah posted:I'm only an idiot on the internet, but the whole idea that there's a Hamas megabase under the hospital is completely insane and illogical (I know, I know, like all Israeli propaganda). Apparently there are offices of like, actual government officials there: https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1722759373640945996?s=20 IOF is obviously too cowardly to go into any tunnels to look for Hamas military command, but stuff like the head of the "hamas run health-ministry" seems like the kind of stuff that they will muddy the waters about enough to claim a kind of win.
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Desiderata posted:I remember watching and liking Waltz with Bashir, finding it a good exploration of suppressed memory, and the way it builds up to the massacre the end such a gut punch, and really powerful. Good post.
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Pookah posted:I'm only an idiot on the internet, but the whole idea that there's a Hamas megabase under the hospital is completely insane and illogical (I know, I know, like all Israeli propaganda). well, idiot on the internet, i can attempt to impart wisdom what do you do when you're a small organization bent on armed resistance against a far more advanced adversary backed by foreign weapons? do you engage in open and fair conflict? the question is important, because while israel is one of the least trustworthy actors in the region, they're nevertheless trying their best navigating around hamas tactics of using civilian infrastructure as defense because it works by applying huge amounts of international pressure on israel (and also maybe because israel does the same thing i,e Kirya in the middle of loving tel aviv), and israel knows this. this is why the concept of hasbara was invented. to combat narratives. it makes complete strategic and tactical sense for hamas to burrow underneath or next to highly sensitive targets to stave off a military response (because israel is a blood-thirsty Law and Order state that must react to any and all aggression lest their populace rises up in revolt like an addict forced to withdrawal). one of the most powerful forces currently in israeli society is the pretense of the "restrained logical western european", a retreated concept that demands a "reasonable response" to acts of aggression, but we all know it's just a facade. when you scratch the facade, like in 7/10, you force your opponent to reveal his hand. israel's deepest and most revered dream is for palestinians to just loving disappear. this, however, does not always translate to active policy and the conduct of its military. this is why hamas overplayed their hand in 7/10. just like in american schools, standing up to a bully means both you and the bully get a time out, hamas decided to finally slam dunk their adversary in front of the whole world, and the response is what you'd expect. to anyone who was still struggling with the western world decidedly going pro-israel.
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Fellatio del Toro posted:did he mean to draw the idf guy as a 12 year old child soldier haven’t seen the plucky little Israel trope in a while
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happytrees posted:Apparently there are offices of like, actual government officials there: That is disgustingly plausible, and I should have made it a lot clearer that I was talking about Hamas's military wing as opposed to the other government departments.
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happytrees posted:Apparently there are offices of like, actual government officials there: Gaza health ministry can't put out casualty numbers if there is no gaza health ministry
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Ba5ic posted:this is why hamas overplayed their hand in 7/10. just like in american schools, standing up to a bully means both you and the bully get a time out, hamas decided to finally slam dunk their adversary in front of the whole world, and the response is what you'd expect. to anyone who was still struggling with the western world decidedly going pro-israel. What'd they do in July?
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Al! posted:hey is moving through a hospital slaughtering patients and doctors something that at one point was considered a really, really bad war crime? like the kind of war crime the united states claims it needs to be the world police to stop!?!??!?! only when The Wrong People (brown ones that we don’t like) do it
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Al! posted:hey is moving through a hospital slaughtering patients and doctors something that at one point was considered a really, really bad war crime? like the kind of war crime the united states claims it needs to be the world police to stop!?!??!?! Only if the optics are good to do so yes.
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Al! posted:hey is moving through a hospital slaughtering patients and doctors something that at one point was considered a really, really bad war crime? like the kind of war crime the united states claims it needs to be the world police to stop!?!??!?! this is a war, and in a war bad things happen. you should blame Hamas for using the Red Crescent as a blue shield.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/drelidavid/status/1723429499109339621?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA doesnt the UN building signify the rest of the entire world? so you've got eight people signifying, at most, eight countries (zelensky is surely there but you cant see him because hes standing behind the elf) vs everyone else.
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That Eli David guy was the one who tweeted out the video claiming the photojournalist was holding a grenade while riding with Hamas (was clearly the guy in front of him) and got a ton of traction to the point the Israelis officials were saying they were going to murder even more journalists.
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Sancho Banana posted:"Just hold on a minute, let me pull out my rape manual" not gonna check to see if there's a hebrew version of the tweet but i'm gonna assume that it's for english speaking americans who don't know either language and are dumb enough to still take israel at face value
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I had my 10yo make a sign for the protest I'm taking him to today. I STG I haven't said a word to him about the red triangle thing, is my son secretly based?
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Al-Saqr posted:https://twitter.com/qudsnen/status/1723667177809625420?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg children ftmfw
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Pookah posted:I'm only an idiot on the internet, but the whole idea that there's a Hamas megabase under the hospital is completely insane and illogical (I know, I know, like all Israeli propaganda). They can say whatever they want, and they know Western media will report it as being (at least) equally valid to whatever Gaza sources say. So your average American just hears "Israel says ______ and the HAMAS-LEAD Gaza Health Ministry says ______." "Journalists" are just government stenographers and the media is just a way to launder government statements through a third party.
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Diamonds On MY Fish posted:I had my 10yo make a sign for the protest I'm taking him to today. I STG I haven't said a word to him about the red triangle thing, is my son secretly based? Dixon Chisholm posted:children ftmfw
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