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peanut
Sep 9, 2007


kreeningsons posted:

how often are people having their sofas professionally cleaned?

never

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RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

kreeningsons posted:

I asked this in the gooncave thread but I figured I would post here for good measure: how often are people having their sofas professionally cleaned?

I haven’t found the time between my trips to Fiji on my yacht and decorating my several penthouses.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
If I had an elderly incontinent pet, and then it died, that’s when I would get a sofa professionally cleaned. Other than that we’re good

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I have an elderly incontinent pet and now I'm sad thinking about him dying :smith:

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
My house is full of carpet that was installed in the late 60s; and it’s never had any cleaning other than regular vacuuming. Our sofas are all the old
School sort though, the back and the seat are each made up of three removable cushions sitting on a wooden frame, and each cushion has a removable case that gets washed periodically.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


KillHour posted:

I have an elderly incontinent pet and now I'm sad thinking about him dying :smith:

:cry:

OP, I’ve had a tweed couch for about 3 or so years now, and haven’t really had to deep or steam clean it to a large degree. Part of it is that tweed is pretty robust and durable, but it’s also just that daily wear and tear isn’t really noticeable in term of dirt and cleanliness. But I’ve spilled coffee and food/sauce on it a few times, and even cleaned up cat barf. It always comes out well, though you’ll inevitably have slight discoloration or wear and tear sometimes because nothing lasts forever.

Here’s what I did for a couch made of sturdy fabric: wipe up the solid and/or dry mess with paper towels, soak up the wet mess with the same, spray some enzymatic cleaner such as Nature’s Miracle (the real kind, not the poo poo kind) or your fabric cleaner of choice on the mess, lightly scrub with a soft disposable sponge, leave to soak for 15m~1hr depending on severity, sop up as much moisture as possible with paper towels, sprinkle a light(!) layer of baking soda on top to absorb any leftover moisture, and vacuum up the baking soda once it’s all dried out.

Eventually I got a cheap handheld carpet cleaner, and it’s about as effective while being somewhat less of a pain. Maybe just skip to that step, but YMMV.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Even my Greatest Generation mom, who had high standards for a clean house, vacuumed the sofa and let it go at that.

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
PLANT MORE TREES
CLEAN THE SEAS
KISS TITTIESS




I used to unzip the cushion covers and put them through the laundry, but that was it.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
We've got the Blu Dot New Standard sofa. The seat covers are all removable but I have no idea if they can be safely run through the washing machine and dryer.

I would kind of like to wash them, but I don't want to go and ruin them or discover that I've shrunk the covers by drying them, etc.... So I haven't done anything other than occasionally vacuuming it.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

KillHour posted:

This must make jerking off to porn really awkward

You just put the cat out for the duration.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.



I've seen variations of this chair popping up on amazon from various sketchy aliexpress dropshippers - does anyone here know what it might be a dupe of aside from maybe 20 year old IKEA? I'm moving into an apartment next month which itself is an extremely dated loft with fixtures in the Factory Pomo/Decon-dustrial/Gen-X Home categories (to steal terms from Evan Collins' aesthetic boards) and I'm looking for furniture that would lean into that late 90s postmodernism rather than fight it.

As an example of the style, although the apartment I'm getting has medium grey carpet instead of wood floors:

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

I wish I could help you with your query, but just wanted to say I used to live in a place with that exact same vibe and loving loved it. It's one of the only design trends since MCM that still holds up very well.

kreeningsons
Jan 2, 2007

corgski posted:



I've seen variations of this chair popping up on amazon from various sketchy aliexpress dropshippers - does anyone here know what it might be a dupe of aside from maybe 20 year old IKEA? I'm moving into an apartment next month which itself is an extremely dated loft with fixtures in the Factory Pomo/Decon-dustrial/Gen-X Home categories (to steal terms from Evan Collins' aesthetic boards) and I'm looking for furniture that would lean into that late 90s postmodernism rather than fight it.

As an example of the style, although the apartment I'm getting has medium grey carpet instead of wood floors:


No idea on the chair. In that type of environment I would lean toward a heavy hitter like Emeco. Depending on how well you can tolerate the style and comfort of a police interrogation room.

https://hivemodern.com/pages/product264/emeco-stools-philippe-starck

https://hivemodern.com/pages/product251/emeco-navy-stool



corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Yeah I think I want more wood - I'm thinking less police interrogation room or navy mess hall and more IKEA catalog circa 1998-2003.

corgski fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Nov 5, 2023

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

corgski posted:

Yeah I think I want more wood - I'm thinking less police interrogation room or navy mess hall and more IKEA catalog circa 1998-2003.

If you're a millionaire, just get some Artek.

kreeningsons
Jan 2, 2007

Artek would be my choice for wood too. There’s been a pair of K65s with backs on Facebook marketplace in the NY area for $350 each.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003
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Are there any good resources for downlight (or lighting in general) planning?

I've found a few that offer general rules of thumb (ceiling height/2 = maximum spacing, and 2-3' off the wall, one downlight for every 1.2 m2 ), but nothing about overall placement, when taking into account furniture, art, or use of space (say living room vs kitchen vs bedroom).

Any good guides, or is this one of those skills you just have to learn/get a design from someone who knows what they are doing?
Also guidance on when to use 4" vs 6" downlights, etc

hypnophant
Oct 19, 2012
Imo, the core concept to learn is light layering, but I don’t have an in-depth resource to share. My particular strong opinion is that downlights should never be used anywhere except work spaces, i.e., kitchens, laundry rooms, garages, or actual workshops. You’ll note that the only examples at that link which use downlighting are kitchens and an office. They’re particularly bad in bedrooms - no one wants to be lie down in bed and glance up into a blinding ceiling light.

The pro move is a bunch of table and floor lamps, possibly with flood or spotlights to wash a wall or highlight art pieces. Put a lamp in every corner of the room and a reading light at your favorite end of the sofa, desk lamp on your desk, arco over the dining table (kidding) etc. Flush mounts are also very useful if you have low ceilings, so long as you don’t get boob lights and it’s not the only light source in the room. If you have the ceiling height for a chandelier, even better.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

hypnophant posted:

Flush mounts are also very useful if you have low ceilings, so long as you don’t get boob lights and it’s not the only light source in the room. If you have the ceiling height for a chandelier, even better.

This is the problem I had with my 1991 builder home in Texas. 8ft ceilings and the only lighting in the house was coming from ceiling fans.

I ripped those out and put can lights in every room, but 8+ years later I would like some additional floor lamps or nicer lighting.... But that gets expensive, and I don't have any outlets in the floor so I'd have to figure out how to hide power cables.

hypnophant
Oct 19, 2012
How much cheaper is it to put in cans than run some extra outlets

Good floor lamps are hard to find but I’m a fan of this ikea guy. I don’t own one but it looks quite sturdy in person. You want a floor lamp to have quite a heavy base, and ideally a one-piece pole, both of which drive up the price, or the tripod style are usually ok. Table lamps are easier, which means cheap table lamps are usually fine and you can find lots of fun designs. I prefer lamps which take regular bulbs, since you can put a smart bulb in them and control them all from a single switch.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


+1 for lamps with smart bulbs. Just leave the lamps on all the time and control a whole room with your phone. I really like ones where you can change the color/color temp as well as a whiter light is a little better for reading but a warmer light is better for relaxing etc.

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

hypnophant posted:

How much cheaper is it to put in cans than run some extra outlets

Good floor lamps are hard to find but I’m a fan of this ikea guy. I don’t own one but it looks quite sturdy in person. You want a floor lamp to have quite a heavy base, and ideally a one-piece pole, both of which drive up the price, or the tripod style are usually ok. Table lamps are easier, which means cheap table lamps are usually fine and you can find lots of fun designs. I prefer lamps which take regular bulbs, since you can put a smart bulb in them and control them all from a single switch.

I think I've posted a photo of my living room somewhere in this thread but basically adding any floor outlets near the center of the room would require ripping up flooring and jackhammering the slab. I could sneak a cable from our island under a rug to the sectional to put a reading light or something next to it without too much difficulty though.

Can lights are very cheap to install. I installed retrofit insulation-contact-rated cans and lights but there are new LED packages that are IC rated that don't require the can so you save at least $15 per light to go that route, I think.

Then depending on the can light you want to use the price can very from sub $10 to quite a bit more if you want those fancy smart home lights.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003
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Can't post for 5 hours!

MetaJew posted:

I think I've posted a photo of my living room somewhere in this thread but basically adding any floor outlets near the center of the room would require ripping up flooring and jackhammering the slab. I could sneak a cable from our island under a rug to the sectional to put a reading light or something next to it without too much difficulty though.

Can lights are very cheap to install. I installed retrofit insulation-contact-rated cans and lights but there are new LED packages that are IC rated that don't require the can so you save at least $15 per light to go that route, I think.

Then depending on the can light you want to use the price can very from sub $10 to quite a bit more if you want those fancy smart home lights.

This is me on both counts.

Older 70s era ranch style house. Most rooms have a single central light/fan and all the power is on the edges.

I've added corner lights to some rooms, and temp adjustable smart bulbs in those. (And am adding another pair shortly.)

However, I'm very much in the "stuff is in the middle of the room, power is on the walls" style of layout.

I'll put up some pictures/drawings of my spaces to discuss/advise.

kreeningsons
Jan 2, 2007

This is a pic from the link hypnophant posted, a chandelier over a floating sitting/living area of what might be a great room, accent lighting on a shelving feature, and no floor or table lamps (no recessed lighting either…). I am strangely fond of this and this chandelier.



I definitely wouldn’t try to cheat by hiding a cord under a rug or running it across a living area or anything like that.

Battery powered lamps like this or this are also possible, but even the nicest ones have limited battery life, so if you plan on using it every day then the recharging would probably be a pain.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003
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Here's the main living area of the house, some of my scale is probably off (in terms of fan/ceiling light location)

West is Up

The corners with green are CCW corner lamps.

Not pictured:
most of the furniture/art.

Sectional under the fan in the living room
TV in the den, couch approx under the fan.
dining room table (rectangular, seats 6)

Where we're thinking of adding some lights - I literally thought about this while making this post, not concrete plans:



Over/near the sectional - almost task light-ish, better reading light then the central fan light. also do Lego while watching TV.
In the den over/near the couch and space between fan and TV - out of glare/reflection of the TV (unlike the fan)

Living Room



Den



Kitchen/Dining

hypnophant
Oct 19, 2012

toplitzin posted:

Here's the main living area of the house, some of my scale is probably off (in terms of fan/ceiling light location)

West is Up

The corners with green are CCW corner lamps.

Not pictured:
most of the furniture/art.

Sectional under the fan in the living room
TV in the den, couch approx under the fan.
dining room table (rectangular, seats 6)

Where we're thinking of adding some lights - I literally thought about this while making this post, not concrete plans:



Over/near the sectional - almost task light-ish, better reading light then the central fan light. also do Lego while watching TV.
In the den over/near the couch and space between fan and TV - out of glare/reflection of the TV (unlike the fan)


For the den, you could get away with a couple of these or any comparable lamp behind the sofa and some small table lamps on the media console. I think these are very friendly, but any similar small frosted or shaded lamp would help. Alternatively (or additionally) you could use light strip to bias light the tv. The corner uplighters don't seem to be doing much of anything; they're too close to the ceiling and too deep into the corner, so the light doesn't spread around enough. If you can't put actual floor lamps in those corners, wall sconces would be a better choice. Put them around eye height a few feet in from the corners for best effect.

For the living room, hear me out: I think you should put in track lighting. Put a big L-shaped track on the ceiling roughly following the back of the sectional and use spots and floods to both wash and highlight the art on the walls. Maybe point a couple low-wattage spots at the couch from over the shoulder for reading lights. You can get extension rods for track heads, which would be good to bring the reading lights a little closer, but obviously don't put a light anywhere someone might bump into it. Also for sure put a table lamp on the kallax. Use a portable lamp, or a regular lamp with a cord cover to the wall outlet.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!

hypnophant posted:

For the den, you could get away with a couple of these or any comparable lamp behind the sofa and some small table lamps on the media console. I think these are very friendly, but any similar small frosted or shaded lamp would help. Alternatively (or additionally) you could use light strip to bias light the tv.

TV has a white LED Bias strip already.



Part of the issue/problem is any source of light behind the couch in the den is 100% returned as glare on the TV.
The curtains along the back wall aren't just for decoration ;)


This was our old TV at move in and you can see how bad it is there. the new TV has an even glossier finish to the screen.
Even the fan lights get refelcted back, but being able to dim them down helps offset that.

hypnophant posted:

The corner uplighters don't seem to be doing much of anything; they're too close to the ceiling and too deep into the corner, so the light doesn't spread around enough. If you can't put actual floor lamps in those corners, wall sconces would be a better choice. Put them around eye height a few feet in from the corners for best effect.

Surprisingly, the corner lights do a nice job of soft light in the evenings.
It's not often they are at full 100% power. Also rarely are they on during the day and at 6500K. Normally around 25-3000k and like 50% bright.

I'll take some updated photos once the sun is down, and capture the rooms at 25/50/100% light brightness for comparison.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Anyone ever purchased one of these cheap chandeliers off AliExpress? Like this one. They are being resold at higher prices by tons of pop-up ecommerce storefronts, including this one that claims they are "handmade by a local lighting atelier in Coral Gables". Gotta love a good old fashioned fraud.

I don't mind if they're cheap and flimsy if they look good and won't set my house on fire

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Has anyone here ever hid their living room TV behind sliding art panels?

I'm moving to a new place where it won't really be feasible to have a separate home theater anymore, but I am 100% against having an obvious TV in the middle of the living room. The solution I thought up was to get a super thin wall-mounted TV and place two sliding art pieces (or maybe one huge art piece!) in front of it, which I can just slide out of the way when I want to use the TV. Selling off my separate home theater gear will conveniently help to pay this off.



These Media Decor Art Lifts look like the perfect solution but they are $8,750. They are automatic and silent and fancy and I don't need all that, I'm happy just pushing it out of the way manually. Also I would pick some art that isn't godawful.
A little update on my plan for this.

Since I'm mounting a 77" TV, I figure a single panel is probably not feasible in the space. I started thinking about a diptych - two panels sliding apart - which would be perfect, but there's not much in the way of diptyches I can find online that I feel like are worth printing and hanging up in this way.

My new thought is to hang a triptych, but to split it unevenly into two panels. Like this (although not this specific work):



Is this very dumb?

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

A little update on my plan for this.

Since I'm mounting a 77" TV, I figure a single panel is probably not feasible in the space. I started thinking about a diptych - two panels sliding apart - which would be perfect, but there's not much in the way of diptyches I can find online that I feel like are worth printing and hanging up in this way.

My new thought is to hang a triptych, but to split it unevenly into two panels. Like this (although not this specific work):



Is this very dumb?
It's going to look very strange unless you can get the television mounted flush or recessed into the wall, and if you do it poorly you're dragging stuff across the glass. But if you're committed to it try finding quadriptychs to hang.like bifolds, and put a frame around the television such that your panels or.their hinges can't come in contact with the screen.

Nosre
Apr 16, 2002


Can't comment on the technical details, but Bosch always makes for a great conversation starter so you should use that specific work!

adnam
Aug 28, 2006

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Let me know if I'm in the wrong place, but I'm trying to put up a bunch of asymmetric photo frames and am having issues with making sure they're exactly as far apart as I'd like. I'm thinking about purchasing those fancy laser grid projectors for this project. Are these a worthwhile investment, or something else I'm missing? Thanks!

(lmk if I'm in the wrong thread)

wheatpuppy
Apr 25, 2008

YOU HAVE MY POST!

adnam posted:

Let me know if I'm in the wrong place, but I'm trying to put up a bunch of asymmetric photo frames and am having issues with making sure they're exactly as far apart as I'd like. I'm thinking about purchasing those fancy laser grid projectors for this project. Are these a worthwhile investment, or something else I'm missing? Thanks!

(lmk if I'm in the wrong thread)

A non-technology option is to lay them out on a large piece of paper and trace around the frames so you can measure and adjust as needed. Then tape the paper up on the wall and poke a hole through the paper to mark where each hanger goes.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

We made a wall of differently sized frames spaced evenly and first way out them on the floor to get the layout then I used a piece of wood that was the size of the spacing we wanted to I didn’t have to measure any of that.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


hypnophant posted:

They’re particularly bad in bedrooms - no one wants to be lie down in bed and glance up into a blinding ceiling light.
My 1930s-era bedroom light and I disagree with you. Whether or not this is your taste, it doesn't blind.

marjorie
May 4, 2014

Arsenic Lupin posted:

My 1930s-era bedroom light and I disagree with you. Whether or not this is your taste, it doesn't blind.


I don't think that's what they were talking about with downlighting, though. The shade in your example diffuses the light going downward, whereas downlighting (if I'm interpreting correctly) has nothing diffusing it in that direction. In other words, if that were downlighting, you'd be exposed to a bare bulb when looking up at it from your bed, so it'd be blinding.

hypnophant
Oct 19, 2012
yeah that's a semi-flush mount light with a diffuser, very much not the same thing as ceiling cans. I could have been more specific but flush or semi-flush lights are fine anywhere.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


hypnophant posted:

yeah that's a semi-flush mount light with a diffuser, very much not the same thing as ceiling cans. I could have been more specific but flush or semi-flush lights are fine anywhere.

Nah, I learned something, so thanks!

adnam
Aug 28, 2006

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wheatpuppy posted:

A non-technology option is to lay them out on a large piece of paper and trace around the frames so you can measure and adjust as needed. Then tape the paper up on the wall and poke a hole through the paper to mark where each hanger goes.

Awesome! This makes more sense than buying newfangled gadgets. Appreciate it!

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kreeningsons
Jan 2, 2007

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

A little update on my plan for this.

Since I'm mounting a 77" TV, I figure a single panel is probably not feasible in the space. I started thinking about a diptych - two panels sliding apart - which would be perfect, but there's not much in the way of diptyches I can find online that I feel like are worth printing and hanging up in this way.

My new thought is to hang a triptych, but to split it unevenly into two panels. Like this (although not this specific work):



Is this very dumb?

As said above, unless it’s recessed and very well built, you will have to commit to this piece not looking purely like a piece of art, but looking more like a piece of art cleverly concealing something else. If that’s your jam, then ok. In that case I would build something that doesn’t have obtrusive hardware or tracks on the walls, doesn’t obscure the tv when viewed from all possible angles, and would make sure that the empty wall space needed for the sliding action isn’t too bare looking.

Might I also suggest van der Weyden’s Crucifixion Diptych, if you need diptych inspo.

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