Rand Brittain posted:

Well, that and he didn't want to.

That wasn't even a real "unleashed" moment; Stolas killed zero people in that encounter even though he clearly could have if he'd felt like it.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah, i kinda feel like he is gonna be the one that kills stryker. i feel like stryker will get wounded by moxxie and wound blitz and then scary stolas comes out. strykers plotline feels like it will probably wrap up this season.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Dawgstar posted:

Maybe we get a uniquely HB father-daughter moment and Loona takes out Stryker after he wounds Blitzo.

PhazonLink posted:

drat i cant believe hell uses the inferior but logical date format of day-month-year

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Striker strikes me (heh) as someone definitely going to die after we finally learn about his backstory. Which I doubt will be particularly sympathetic, as he definitely is the kind of 'rebel' whose only real problem with the status quo is that he's not in charge of it, but we know how these dramatic formulas go.

That said, outside bet that he ends up revived as a cyborg. There's precedent! Actually kinda funny that we have a cyborg who is superpowered by imp standards but is one of the few characters who demonstrably has no skill nor interest in violence, even if he's as inured to it as most denizens of Hell.

Put that way, actually... makes me wonder. A lot of the antagonists of the series thus far seem to represent the worst things about Hell. (and could be argued Heaven and Earth a bit too) Stella as mentioned is everything wrong with the Goetia wrapped up in feathers, and Crimson is effectively a jumped-up thug who sees any virtue or nuance as weakness to be punished or exploited, and constantly underestimates people with redeeming qualities. Striker presents himself as the pinnacle of what an Imp can hope to be, and on top of all that a rebel, but all that ultimately amounts to is an egotistical shithead who needs violence to validate himself.

Maybe it all comes back to the whole premise- Blitzo is literally a professional assassin, and surprisingly good at it despite his propensity for shenanigans, but for him, Moxxie and Millie, violence is a means to an end, even if they do enjoy it. It's a job to support their lives and what they really want to do with them, and to maintain and support their relationships. Notably, Blitzo specifically keeps Loona out of the violence whenever possible, despite that she's incredibly good at it and suited for it, because he wants her to have a semblance of normality, contrasting Crimson destroying his family trying to make Moxxie into his personal weapon. (And Moxxie started working for Blitz in the first place after learning he was a better father)

Mammon IS Australian, it's normal here!

Dawgstar posted:

Maybe we get a uniquely HB father-daughter moment and Loona takes out Stryker after he wounds Blitzo.

Flopsy posted:

I do firmly believe the main character that's going to die is Striker because his plot thread is heading in that direction. He gets more unstable every time he's on screen and has made enemies out of a lot of powerful/connected people. I think he's going to go after Blitzo personally at some point or try and finish Stolas off to hurt him. Either way his decision making skills are atrophying. The fact that he was just going to pointlessly off Fizzarolli which would've had not one but TWO Sins breathing down his neck is pretty indicative of where he's at right now.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I don’t think he is the main character who dies. Dudes a villain and I feel like his clocks been ticking since he appeared. I think it’s someone else.

Cheston posted:

So given Mammon's Australian accent, the word that kept getting censored was oval office, right? Just making sure my head's on straight here.

SkeletonHero posted:

It's gonna be Loona, she's gotta be like 102 in dog years.

Macaluso posted:

Did Viv say something like "one main character is definitely going to die" or something cause what are you guys talking about

Larryb posted:

How long is Helluva Boss supposed to run for at minimum again (same question goes for Hazbin Hotel when that starts up)?

Happy Landfill posted:

Why do people keep saying Stolas is going to die? It's so prevalent but I have no idea how that started

Flopsy posted:

Pretty much. Although the definition for "main character" is kinda vague so that's what all the hoopla is about.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i kinda assumed he would die in

I dont think its stella or stryker because i could see either of them dying and since they are villians its kinda expected. It could be octavia as an extra gut punch and i could see it happening because i actually trust viv with that level of a gut punch. maybe moxxie or millie. I feel like Viv and co arnt afraid of killing off a beloved character if they can make it work so who knows.

Flopsy posted:

If I had to take a safe bet on a main character Moxxie would probably be it. It would force more character development for poor Millie and it would hurt everyone in the immediate vicinity but wouldn't annihilate Blitzo on the level of if it was his daughter or Stolas. Not saying he wouldn't be sick over it but I wouldn't see that sending him down the rabbit hole entirely. Millie on the other hand...God...

Madurai posted:

Can the Goetia even be killed? Like, at all? Stolas seemed pretty unconcerned the few times he's had violence directed at/near him.

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Stryker seems like the only obvious choice right now, the series doesn't seem like it particularly wants to kill off its wider cast and he's the only one throwing up death flags. Octavia dying in particular would be completely unearned and absolutely stormingly poo poo. Even Stella just needs some comeuppance, it would feel weird for her to get killed off when she's basically just a birdbrained brat.

Oxxidation posted:

Stella’s an abusive sadist, the fact that she’s also dumb as a rock doesn’t much soften her crueler traits

Macaluso posted:

I really don't think any of the people that Blitzo is close to in the main cast is going to die. I think that would be a needlessly cruel story for Blitzo

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Stryker seems like the only obvious choice right now, the series doesn't seem like it particularly wants to kill off its wider cast and he's the only one throwing up death flags. Octavia dying in particular would be completely unearned and absolutely stormingly poo poo. Even Stella just needs some comeuppance, it would feel weird for her to get killed off when she's basically just a birdbrained brat.

Lord_Magmar posted:

I actually think if anyone in Blitzo's actual pseudo circle of relationships/friends/acquaintances is going to die it'll be Asmodeus. "You're gonna regret this, mate" and all that, it's a gut punch that would echo across the show (Blitzo and Stolas's relationship rebuilding, Fizz's love life, hell in general) but isn't going to crater anyone from IMP irrevocably, although obviously for Fizz it'll be pretty loving awful.

That's not to say Stryker isn't also likely to die, but if there's a "heroic" figure that gets got I think Asmodeus has the biggest narrative impact but also the easiest narrative to write for.

Flopsy posted:

True but the dude is a deadly sin and one of the major rulers of hell. He'd be pretty drat hard to actually kill. Out of the entire cast he would be the hardest TO off in all honestly the guy is millennia old and obviously studier than Stolas. Also I don't think Mammon would go so far and to try and kill him because Lucifer would come down on his rear end like a ton of bricks for upending his social order. Now torment him through his now obvious weakness or myriad of other ways sure I can see that coming.

Lord_Magmar posted:

I didn't mean that Mammon would actually do it, just that it's a vibe that's been given. Asmodeus doing this is going to be less popular amongst the elite than Stolas' failing marriage, and Asmodeus is part of the Goetic family too.

Larryb posted:

That’d explain why Charlie looks the least demonic of probably any major character in the franchise. I forget, has Lucifer himself made a speaking appearance in HB yet?

Macaluso posted:

I have a feeling that demon royalty pretty much refers to the Goetias and whatever other similar things there are. I have to imagine a simple blessed bullet shot from an imp in the building across the street is not going to do much sins like Mammon and would just end up putting them in their demon rage state. I'm curious if they have to hide during the yearly purge or if they are powerful enough where it doesn't matter (not that they need to even be in the Pride ring during it in the first place). This is not going to be a question that either show is going to tackle however I think.

Macaluso posted:

I have a feeling that demon royalty pretty much refers to the Goetias and whatever other similar things there are. I have to imagine a simple blessed bullet shot from an imp in the building across the street is not going to do much sins like Mammon and would just end up putting them in their demon rage state. I'm curious if they have to hide during the yearly purge or if they are powerful enough where it doesn't matter (not that they need to even be in the Pride ring during it in the first place). This is not going to be a question that either show is going to tackle however I think.

Flopsy posted:

Seeing as the purge is strictly for overpopulated sinners I think the locals don't give a poo poo about it and simply stay indoors and wait it out if they're in the pride ring. Or just completely ignore it and go on about their day in other rings because the angels are forbidden from going down there anyway. The other sins probably barely even notice because the purge has gently caress all to do with them. And if a heavenly exorcist got so out of line as to attack a Sin first off I think it would turn into a massive clusterfuck. Heaven would probably get extremely mad at that particular exorcist for possibly turning the cold war between them hot again. And Lucifer might change the loving rules altogether to keep them from ever coming on his turf again overpopulation be damned.

As for the damage inflicted on demon royalty Stolas got hosed up with a blessed knife and was back on his feet in a week. Asmodeus is bigger, stronger and way older than him. It'd take the equivalent of a holy nuke to kill him I think. And what didn't kill him would leave him wildly pissed off including several other sins he might be on good terms with.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

is there somewhere all the lore and stuff is layed out? i assume its been interviews and such over the years.

Macaluso posted:

You can go to the fan run wikis. They're some of the best compliations of stuff Viv has said about how the world works over the years. Some of it has probably been changed by now though.