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Weembles
Apr 19, 2004

Salt Fish posted:

Why would you try to predict the magnitude of a volcanic eruption lol

I don't. Vulcanologists do and you'll have to ask them why they chose that life.

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Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002

I mean is there a chance this blows us all up? asking for a friend

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Scarabrae posted:

so from a scale of nothingburger to Krakatoa what are we looking at here?

If it erupts in the ocean like it might then it could disrupt some air travel in Iceland but from what I've seen there isn't all that much lava involved, and the volcanic system is almost entirely super runny non-explosive eruptions like Hawaii. That there are fumaroles popping up in the middle of town isn't a good thing for the people who live there though

But again, there's not much lava involved, so it's going to be pretty local

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

Scarabrae posted:

I mean is there a chance this blows us all up? asking for a friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Kbym7WYzs

Uranium Phoenix
Jun 20, 2007

Boom.

Scarabrae posted:

so from a scale of nothingburger to Krakatoa what are we looking at here?

Probably at most a 2 on the Volcanic Explosivity Index (the scale is out of 8, and logarithmic). Eyjafjallajokull was a 2, and that was the biggest one Iceland's hand in some time. For comparison, Mt. Saint Helens was a 4 and Krakatoa a 6.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Uranium Phoenix posted:

Probably at most a 2 on the Volcanic Explosivity Index (the scale is out of 8, and logarithmic). Eyjafjallajokull was a 2, and that was the biggest one Iceland's hand in some time. For comparison, Mt. Saint Helens was a 4 and Krakatoa a 6.

walking around muttering "eyjafjallajokull" to myself like an Icelandic hobo

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

ok but can this new plastic geology make it go to 11?

Popoto
Oct 21, 2012

miaow
I can’t imagine what Krakatoa must have been, at six.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

Salt Fish posted:

Why would you try to predict the magnitude of a volcanic eruption lol

The trick is to predict differently on various forums, then afterwards you stick to the forums where your prediction came true and have everyone defer to you as the Volcano Guy.

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



Samuel Glompers posted:

Always loved this logo because it looks like a sick poster for a left wing party in the 1910's or so. SWP, is that the Socialist Worker's Party? Nah, Sherman Williams Paints.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



i just realized that of my 200 level human geography class's critical writing essays, the lowest grade of the 3 for the semester is dropped.

i got a perfect score on the first two. the third one is on an alternate proposal to carbon offsets to manage emissions.

i am subjecting my professor to an unhinged screed well over the stated word count explaining the Money Number Religion, the Sacred Line, dying earth doomerism, and finally my proposal:

quote:

Given the pervasive influence of the Money Number Religion, my proposed solution is as simple as it is comprehensive and unthinkable to that faith’s acolytes. The first step is total nationalization of the fossil fuel industry. The cost of a controlling interest in the three largest oil companies is estimated at around $350 billion, a trivial amount given the ballooning Pentagon budget to fight current and future resource wars and amelioration of the symptoms of the climate catastrophe (The Hill, 2022)

The second component is what I call the “Corn King Proposal.” Drawing from almost certainly apocryphal tales of Celtic fertility rituals whereby a sacred ceremonial king is anointed in the spring, pampered over the summer, and sacrificed in the fall to ensure a good harvest (The Golden Bough 1917), the C-suite executives and boards of these companies would continue to draw their generous salaries, bonuses, and fringe benefits. However they would be made to balance their sacred fiduciary duty to the continued ascent of The Line with strict carbon reduction targets. Failure to meet targets would result in the public execution of these corporate leaders. Such executions could be turned into highly bingeworthy content for streaming services, creating another revenue source for other sects of the Line.

Owlbear Camus has issued a correction as of 05:03 on Nov 14, 2023

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008



post the full paper

manufestos must be shared

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
jokes on you if your prof is unabomber 2.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Yes

You can't just tease the thread like this with that golden nugget and not post more

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

volcanos count as climate change because they're helping us add more carbon to the atmosphere. volcanos and humanity are climate change allies. our common enemy? you guessed it. the biosphere.

TehSaurus
Jun 12, 2006

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Mola Yam posted:

jokes on you if your prof is unabomber 2.

he's a liberal techno-utopian who thinks we can transition to renewable and perhaps hitherto unknown technologies to fix it fast enough lol

ill post it soon phoneposting now

Fell Mood
Jul 2, 2022

A terrible Fell look!

Owlbear Camus posted:

i just realized that of my 200 level human geography class's critical writing essays, the lowest grade of the 3 for the semester is dropped.

i got a perfect score on the first two. the third one is on an alternate proposal to carbon offsets to manage emissions.

i am subjecting my professor to an unhinged screed well over the stated word count explaining the Money Number Religion, the Sacred Line, dying earth doomerism, and finally my proposal:

See if you can work in the phrase "Babylonian money magic slave system".

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


When I see a volcano I salute and say thank you. Pretty telling that the libs don't thqh

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

more like volcaYES

Fell Mood
Jul 2, 2022

A terrible Fell look!
Has biosphere prolapse been a title yet? Seems appropriate with the volcano.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
If it just cracks open and seeps, seems more of a fistula than a prolapse

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
I believe that if we throw enough garbage into as many volcanoes as we possibly can, we can then trigger enough eruptions and subsequent plumes to naturally cool the planet.

:blessed:

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

5th national climate assessment was released today: https://nca2023.globalchange.gov/


so a good fun time to be had finding insane graphs & paragraphs that very politely and obtusely say we're hosed

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Weembles posted:

I don't. Vulcanologists do and you'll have to ask them why they chose that life.

because vulcanologist is a badass job title

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Trabisnikof
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Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

cow farts lol

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002

seaquest dsv hamburger episode haunts me in my darkest hours

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Delta-Wye posted:

cow farts lol

Cow farts are only 2% of emissions. Its the cow belches you have to look out for

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

honestly the change in USDA plant zone chart is probably a good one to share with people who garden and are receptive to climate change but don't *get* the scale.


TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Nix Panicus posted:

Cow farts are only 2% of emissions. Its the cow belches you have to look out for

idk I'm way more worried about a cow farting on me tbqh

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

TeenageArchipelago posted:

idk I'm way more worried about a cow farting on me tbqh

I fear belches because I kiss a lot of cows on the lips

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Trabisnikof posted:

honestly the change in USDA plant zone chart is probably a good one to share with people who garden and are receptive to climate change but don't *get* the scale.




LMAO
How many carbon capture plants would need to be built in 15 years for that graph to be correct?

One for every gas station

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

jetz0r posted:

LMAO
How many carbon capture plants would need to be built in 15 years for that graph to be correct?

One for every gas station

hey it says potential right in the name, it doesn't say we're actually going to do anything :smug:

(but yeah 800 million metric tons, would be 200,000 plants of the same size as the Iceland plant, but since those plants have associated emissions of ~10% you'd need another 20,000 just to cover the induced emissions from those plants themselves)

Maed
Aug 23, 2006


good thing that building infrastructure is well known to use very little resources and carbon itself or we'd be in trouble

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
back of the envelope, we'd need about 1,600 of those "largest carbon capture" plants to meet that target. probably trillions-scale investment? but that chart only covers 800 million tons. USA annual emissions are like 5-6 billion tons.

all the other poo poo on the list is still worth doing but CCS is never going to save us, no matter how desperately we want it to.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


I've always been curious what the scale would need to be for like a bamboo biochar operation and how it compares (both in land/water use and operating cost) vs direct air capture

Researchers have shown biochar reactors can be self-sustained via using the offgassed combustibles to burn/heat the reactor for a slight efficiency hit (still resulting in a net carbon decrease, like burning 20% of the carbon to bury the remaining 80% without requiring an external energy source)

To me it seems a lot easier to grow acres and acres of bamboo to toss into a big hole/make black earth with than build thousands of these bigass expensive air capture plants but idk

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Shows over, doomers. Xi gets poo poo done (maybe, in a single dimension, in a model).

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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

China doing better will be absolutely essential to any hope of mitigation.

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