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Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

That Works posted:

He’ll probably be Sec Labor eventually

Ah, the Rick Perry gambit

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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


So would that shitcan half of the military as stated?

lol

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
mil is a gov employee so yep


it would be like your number getting called for a piss test, but instead its a get out of hell free card

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/OliviaRubinABC/status/1724181685170733291?t=sx5WDNGwJruflHaIU907DQ&s=19

TL;DR, both of them knew it was bullshit, most of the people in the White House knew it was bullshit, yet Donnie Sadbrains had visions on making a final stand by flat refusing to leave.

Also, Powell had no idea what the gently caress she was doing but stuck around because she was one of the few people willing to defend him.

fknlo posted:

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1723743653816836377?s=20

Yeah my guy, absolutely nothing would break. How the gently caress do people take someone like this seriously?

This dude strikes me as somebody who had strict parents and got to college and started spewing whatever bullshit fantasies he'd drawn up I'm his head to anyone who would listen as a cry for attention.

E-
https://twitter.com/AntiToxicPeople/status/1724231379410399265?t=4jydHQ6W_1_BQXB4bdXu0w&s=19

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Nov 14, 2023

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.


Et tu, Cheese Bro?

cult_hero
Jul 10, 2001

fknlo posted:

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1723743653816836377?s=20

Yeah my guy, absolutely nothing would break. How the gently caress do people take someone like this seriously?

Yes, that's great, it's just "bureaucrats". That really narrows it down. So any attempts to implement your laws, fund your policies, or really do any loving thing will be hampered to take 2-4 times as long for much more of the cost.

I would laugh if these morons didn't have so much support from so many other morons.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

ded posted:

mil is a gov employee so yep


it would be like your number getting called for a piss test, but instead its a get out of hell free card

Guess he'd have a 50/50 shot of getting my vote if I was still active then.

He's polling at about 5% BTW, although like a lot of people I'm hesitant to hang my hat on that with what happened with Donny.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
if trump was dead it could be possible. doubtful, but higher than 5%

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Raerlynn posted:

November CE Thread: Is this motherfucker literally suggesting to Thanos snap the Federal Government?

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk

Nick Soapdish posted:

I was just chatting with a friend who I still a reservist but now a contractor about this very thing. He was saying it should be changed by FY26. I don't know his source on that but that's good to hear. I've been thinking about getting back into the reserve to finish out to a retirement

He never said it should be changed for the better though...

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
I'd be ok with a Thanos snap at SSA.

It'd make America remember "oh yeah, someone I love probably uses social services even if I don't."

(plus my SSN ends in 2, motherfuckers!)

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
okay but hear me out.. thanos snap the entire loving TSA.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


A.o.D. posted:

okay but hear me out.. thanos snap the entire loving TSA.

pseudosavior
Apr 14, 2006

Don't you do cocaine at ME,
you son of a bitch!
Don't forget the ICE!

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

pseudosavior posted:

Don't forget the ICE!

Oh hey did you just say abolish DHS and roll the Coast Guard back into either DoD or Treasury? Because it sounds like you said that and I'll be happy to sign your petition.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
It wouldn't matter what parts you targeted because it would all be reformed into something worse in the aftermath. Creating a scarcity of labor is 100% the first step to fundamentally changing how the federal government operates, and it wouldn't be away from Ice or Bpd

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
^^^

I mean as useless as they are TSA probably a lot less malignant than the aforementioned.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Milo and POTUS posted:

^^^

I mean as useless as they are TSA probably a lot less malignant than the aforementioned.

When I used to travel more, I would see the signs saying "XX% of TSA are veterans." All I could think of is that doesn't really prove what you probably were aiming for since it is just security theater and a jobs program

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
:psyduck:

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1724468257510309976?t=uYpCNZMczuD8O5ECT8OoRA&s=19

Incidentally, O'Brien's bio says "Fighting for workers is a full-contact sport."

Also: https://twitter.com/cgrisales/status/1724453535184551958?t=NSw76V36nLeQZhjXnC8cjg&s=19

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Nov 14, 2023

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.


Are you trying to tell me that the Government will shut down this weekend?

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
genuinely surprised its lasted this long

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

My Spirit Otter posted:

genuinely surprised its lasted this long

Yeah i'm surprised by how long America lasted too.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

It has been a strange day in congress. On top of MarkWayne Mullin wanting to fight the teamster and McCarthy supposedly cheapshotting the other rep, this also happened:

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1724490735679098945?s=20

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
I'd guess that the pressure is getting to the republicans but it's all pressure on themselves so they can go suck it.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/OliviaRubinABC/status/1724500268920734015?t=xUhfLnZeTzJbqjciydu8yg&s=19

Oops.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Fought?

ASAPI
Apr 20, 2007
I invented the line.

The House passed a spending bill:

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/federal-government-shutdown-funding-11-14-23/index.html

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://bsky.app/profile/chimeracoder.bsky.social/post/3ke3jtvzi4l2y

How true or possible is this?

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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

its not a full bill why the gently caress are they voting for this poo poo

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

It's a bad bill, but this is Chicken Little-ing a good bit.

https://www.stopkosa.com/

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

A panicky tweet with zero sourcing?
What do you think?
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/s1409

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005


it will end up being significantly worse than that because it leaves "content harmful to minors" entirely at the discretion of state AGs and could very well shut down user added content on any site that doesn't have a tech giant compliance department

R's love it because it'll protect their kids from learning anything from outside their parental cult of choice, Ds love it because it deepens the corporate enshittifiers' moats

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Stultus Maximus posted:

A panicky tweet with zero sourcing?
What do you think?
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/118/s1409

From reading through it, it doesn't seem like a specifically anti-trans bill, seems like the same bill that makes the rounds every so often that basically puts the onus on website owners to moderate their platforms if they reasonably believe minors may use it.

It's a stupid bill every time they do it for various reasons, but I don't see why specifically members of the trans-community would have issue with it.

shame on an IGA posted:

it will end up being significantly worse than that because it leaves "content harmful to minors" entirely at the discretion of state AGs

Huh? Is this not the correct bill

Bill linked above posted:

A covered platform shall act in the best interests of a user that the platform knows or reasonably should know is a minor by taking reasonable measures in its design and operation of products and services to prevent and mitigate the following:

(1)Consistent with evidence-informed medical information, the following mental health disorders: anxiety, depression, eating disorders, substance use disorders, and suicidal behaviors.
(2)Patterns of use that indicate or encourage addiction-like behaviors.
(3)Physical violence, online bullying, and harassment of the minor.
(4)Sexual exploitation and abuse.
(5)Promotion and marketing of narcotic drugs (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)), tobacco products, gambling, or alcohol.
(6)Predatory, unfair, or deceptive marketing practices, or other financial harms.

Sexual exploitation as defined in the bill is basically defined as Child Porn and enticing kids to leave the state for sex work.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Nov 15, 2023

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Without reading the bill, what's to stop any site from doing what alcohol producers do and just popping an age verification in front of it?

Volkova III
Jan 5, 2021

Defenestrategy posted:

It's a stupid bill every time they do it for various reasons, but I don't see why specifically members of the trans-community would have issue with it.

Because a number of states would love to classify literally anything trans as content not appropriate for minors, and use bills like this to stomp out any and all mention of any kind of gender non-conformity where any one under 18 could possibly see it. If you stop kids from figuring out that they're trans, you make it easier to keep them in the closet when they figure it out later, if they ever do.

If I hadn't gotten to meet a bunch of gender nonconforming people, I might never have figured it out myself.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Soul Dentist posted:

Without reading the bill, what's to stop any site from doing what alcohol producers do and just popping an age verification in front of it?

laziness

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

the author is a systems engineer at a payments company and not a policy person or lawyer, so not the best source. the EFF page unfortunately stuffs their actual analysis behind a link. anyway, have an actual policy person:



https://bsky.app/profile/jcperrino.bsky.social/post/3ke6cxniknt2z

missing from the EFF analysis is the key bit about "more narrowly tailored than state legislation". legislation of this sort is already being drafted or enacted at the state level, and many of those are actually worse (even here in gay communist california, thanks <my state senator>) and do have actual age verification requirements (strangely, companies that provide age verification systems sing praises of them to legislators). the bill isn't good (save the children laws often aren't), but it may make sense as a tactical move to try and preempt more onerous legislation in, say, Texas or Florida with a common federal standard (it is, however, a bit late and probably won't stop the more determined culture war states anyway)

Qtotonibudinibudet fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Nov 15, 2023

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://bsky.app/profile/bencollins.bsky.social/post/3ke6usf3wdu2x

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Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

That's not how the constitution works. That law is loving stupid though.

Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Nov 15, 2023

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Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?

fknlo posted:

https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy/status/1723743653816836377?s=20

Yeah my guy, absolutely nothing would break. How the gently caress do people take someone like this seriously?

I think the dude watched The Fifth Element too many times and thinks Zorg is a role model.

“ Fire… one million… “

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