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democrats are willing to decouple ukraine funds to avoid shutdown lol
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Nov 14, 2023 23:31
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spacetoaster posted:People forget that Ukraine took Crimea by force in 1995. Heck my knowledge of that history is limited. Just by skimming Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Crimea_(1992%E2%80%931995)#Dissolution quote:On 30 January 1994, the pro-Russian Yuriy Meshkov was elected as President of Crimea on a pro Russian platform against the favoured candidate of the local establishment, Nikolai Bagrov.[1] Despite then winning a referendum on further autonomy[23] Meshkov quickly ran into conflicts with parliament.[6] On 8 September, the Crimean parliament degraded the President's powers from the head of state to the head of the executive power only, to which Meshkov responded by disbanding parliament and announcing his control over Crimea four days later.[24] So yeah, that's a coup
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Nov 14, 2023 23:31
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Nonsense posted:democrats are willing to decouple ukraine funds to avoid shutdown lol lol owned
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Oh it gets even better, looking at the previous section:quote:In April 1993, during the 1993 Russian constitutional crisis, the Russian Parliament proposed to support a referendum on Crimean independence and include the republic as a separate entity in the Commonwealth of Independent States, an offer that was later withdrawn.[19] After Boris Yeltsin won his struggle with the Russian Parliament the Russian stance towards Ukraine changed. Yeltsin refused to meet with the Crimean President, and Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin stated that Russia had no claim on Crimea.[14] Yeltsin's self-coup directly facilitated Ukraine's later coup on Crimea. Convenient for them!
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Nov 14, 2023 23:34
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Nonsense posted:democrats are willing to decouple ukraine funds to avoid shutdown lol the great satan lives up to his name
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Nov 14, 2023 23:37
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mawarannahr posted:the latest data demonstrate that there is a bit of a peckishness at minimum... "there’s absolutely no appetite for letting Russia just keep doing this!" I yelled at the waiter as he ignored me for the second time while walking by
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Nov 14, 2023 23:41
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VoicesCanBe posted:Heck my knowledge of that history is limited. Just by skimming Wikipedia: This was still in living memory in 2014, which probably explains why the Crimean secession was relatively smooth
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Nov 14, 2023 23:43
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Cheatum the Evil Midget posted:Just utterly flabbergasted at the thought that a ship owned by a wealthy sovereign power can physically sail without Lloyd's insurance. How can this be. I think someone said it in the previous thread or the WW3 thread that Western Insurance can not be substituted for because all the other ones are incomparably worse which means the oil cap will cause Russia to collapse.
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Nov 15, 2023 00:02
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neoliberalisms whole goal is to make claims on the economy, not expand production and create new consumers. it’s inconceivable to us that the point of financial instruments is secondary to the thing itself because we’ve created an insane house of cards through derivatives that even the slightest tremor can topple the whole scheme over. getting big mad that your genius plan to foil Russia depends on them checking an insurance box is so funny
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Nov 15, 2023 00:09
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Nonsense posted:democrats are willing to decouple ukraine funds to avoid shutdown lol Z better be packing his bags
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Nov 15, 2023 00:12
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https://twitter.com/robinbrooksiif/status/1724420786696360241?s=46 the thing Russia doesn’t get much credit on is how competent their central bank and finance ministers are. they’ve managed to stay one step ahead of the entire western world by a combination of being a net exporter and having an unusually solid understanding of international finance. I’m my opinion, the moment a multipolar world emerged is when we sanctioned Russia. creating the conditions for a parallel economy, intentionally kept outside of the west, created an accidental experiment in breaking American financial dominance
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Nov 15, 2023 00:17
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I think the key point is that Russia wasn't just able to weather "the mother of all sanctions", but actually shrugged it off entirely. There are plenty of recent examples of countries enduring under harsh sanctions (Syria, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and more), but these countries pay a heavy toll in the process, with the sanctions directly and indirectly creating massive suffering to the countries' populations. None of that happened to Russia, in fact Russia's economy has been totally fine and the sanctions barely register to the population at all.
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Nov 15, 2023 00:23
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Russia and Communist China's State Administration Council in Myanmar is facing crushing defeat as the civilizing forces conquer more and more territory by the hour
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Nov 15, 2023 00:34
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The Continuing Resolution passed, no funds for Ukraine.
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Nov 15, 2023 00:43
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Cheatum the Evil Midget posted:Just utterly flabbergasted at the thought that a ship owned by a wealthy sovereign power can physically sail without Lloyd's insurance. How can this be. If you think that's funny wait till you see the russian car market under "sanctions" end of history brained eurolibs giving that market up on a silver platter to china who not only have a substitute product but also better and cheaper
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Nov 15, 2023 00:57
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Nonsense posted:The Continuing Resolution passed, no funds for Ukraine. lol owned
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Nov 15, 2023 00:57
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dk2m posted:I’m my opinion, the moment a multipolar world emerged is when we sanctioned Russia. creating the conditions for a parallel economy, intentionally kept outside of the west, created an accidental experiment in breaking American financial dominance Now we're living in the aftermath and the decline is just beginning
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Nov 15, 2023 01:02
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Nothus posted:Now we're living in the aftermath and the decline is just beginning good
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Nov 15, 2023 01:04
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Oligarch never meant much, but lol at ‘Greek shipping Oligarchs’
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Nov 15, 2023 01:04
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Nonsense posted:The Continuing Resolution passed, no funds for Ukraine. Nobody on the pro Ukraine side is talking about this so it can't be that big of a deal
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Nov 15, 2023 01:05
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Ardennes posted:I am more skeptical about "no matter what" in the sense the Republicans are going to have a lot of leverage and if polling is pushing against war funding they may make a move to demand concessions. They know the administration needs the funding, and they have a laundry list of their wildest dreams. The continuing resolution keeps the government going on, but the democrats are still trying to tie Ukrainian aid to Israel aid. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 01:14 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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Nov 15, 2023 01:05
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https://youtu.be/_gS09ogK4is
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Nov 15, 2023 01:13
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From a purely hamburger perspective, Ukraine getting rolled up in the next year would be huge for the republican narrative that Biden is incompetent and/or corrupt and funding Ukraine was a waste of money and/or grift Never base your victory plan on continued support from a country that has a schizophrenic fit every four years
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Nov 15, 2023 01:25
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This is an hour long, is there anything in particular interesting here?
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Nov 15, 2023 01:26
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Nix Panicus posted:From a purely hamburger perspective, Ukraine getting rolled up in the next year would be huge for the republican ftfy 
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Nov 15, 2023 01:28
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Nix Panicus posted:This is an hour long, is there anything in particular interesting here? Nope, same thing as usual as far as I can tell. Same can be said for the past 4 months of the war too though.
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Nov 15, 2023 01:30
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Nix Panicus posted:I feel like losing control of one of the largest oil and gas producers and creating a fully fledged secondary shipping market for oil was not the goal envisioned when western nations decided to overthrow Yanukovych Me a genius western planner: It's a great opportunity to get people onto solar and renewables! Boy it sure is cold during winter. Also I miss fresh non tinned foods.
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Nov 15, 2023 01:35
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Nonsense posted:The Continuing Resolution passed, no funds for Ukraine. None for Israel either though
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Nov 15, 2023 01:35
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lol I just saw this was published. Snyder/Applebaum style revisionism but for the NAFO-centric strategy: The Media Offensive: How the Press and Public Opinion Shaped Allied Strategy during World War II World War II was a media war. President Franklin D. Roosevelt used the press to a great extent, of course, but as the war progressed, the media also came to influence commanders’ decisions on the battlefield. Rescuing General Douglas MacArthur from the Philippines in deference to public opinion forced the Allies to divide the Pacific War between two competing theaters. Omar Bradley’s concern over US public opinion convinced General Dwight D. Eisenhower to include Americans in the final assault against Axis forces in Tunisia. General George S. Patton Jr. raced across Sicily to gain media attention and British respect. General Mark Clark’s hunger for publicity and the glory of capturing Rome allowed an entire German army to escape destruction. Negative media pressure and the fear of V-1 bombs damaging British morale provided the impetus for the breakout of Normandy and the unsuccessful attempt to liberate the Netherlands in the fall of 1944. British general Bernard Montgomery’s remarks to the press during the Battle of the Bulge almost caused him to lose his command and created tremendous ill feelings among the Allies. Soon afterward, Eisenhower was forced to hold the dangerously exposed city of Strasbourg because of French public opinion. By V-E Day, even Eisenhower was attempting to get more publicity for American, as opposed to Allied, units. The Media Offensive offers a new way to understand military-media relations during World War II. The press and public opinion shaped not only how the conflict was seen but also how it was fought. Alexander Lovelace demonstrates that the US military repeatedly discovered that the best effects resulted from accurate news stories. Truthful news reporting—defined as news reporting that accurately depicts the events it describes—could not be created by the military or even the media but could only emerge through a free press searching for it. Lovelace recasts World War II in a new and unique fashion by placing media and public opinion at the center of battlefield decision-making. Unlike past scholarship on the media during World War II that focused on censorship, propaganda, or the adventure stories of war correspondents, The Media Offensive takes the historiography of war reporting in a new direction. In what could be called “the new history of war reporting,” the focus is switched from how the military controlled reporters to how military decisions were shaped by the press.
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Nov 15, 2023 01:36
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Nonsense posted:The Continuing Resolution passed, no funds for Ukraine. Donald the dove
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Nov 15, 2023 01:44
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"World war two was a media war" writes person who has never done anything real in their life
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/world/europe/ukraine-biden-giuliani-trump.html Ukraine Indicts Officials Linked to Efforts to Investigate the Bidens By Andrew E. Kramer Reported from Kyiv, Ukraine. Nov. 14, 2023 12:04 p.m. ET Ukrainian police and prosecutors have accused two politicians and a former prosecutor of treason, saying they colluded with a Russian intelligence agency in aiding an effort by Rudolph W. Giuliani several years ago to tie the Biden family to corruption in Ukraine. Those accused include Kostyantyn Kulyk, a former Ukrainian deputy prosecutor general who had drafted a memo in 2019 suggesting Ukraine investigate Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son, for his role serving on the board of a Ukrainian energy company. Also implicated were a current member of Ukraine’s Parliament, Oleksandr Dubinsky, and a former member, Andriy Derkach, who had publicly advocated for an investigation in Ukraine into Hunter Biden. They had also promoted a spurious theory that it was Ukraine, and not Russia, that had meddled in the 2016 presidential election in the United States. The three were indicted on charges of treason and belonging to a criminal organization. The charges refer to “information-subversive activities” and focus on actions in 2019 before the American presidential election. They do not say if or when the activity stopped. In the run-up to the 2020 election in the United States, Mr. Giuliani and later former President Donald J. Trump had encouraged Ukrainian officials to follow up on the allegations against Hunter Biden. The effort included a phone call by Mr. Trump to President Volodymyr Zelensky in July of 2019 urging an investigation into the Bidens, at a time when the Trump administration was withholding military aid for the Ukrainian Army. Critics say that pressure to investigate the Bidens was politically motivated, aimed at harming the elder Mr. Biden’s chances against Mr. Trump in the 2020 presidential election. Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani denied that there was anything inappropriate about their contact with Ukrainian officials, with Mr. Trump describing his phone call to Mr. Zelensky as “perfect.” The administration said military aid to Ukraine was withheld over concerns about corruption in the Ukrainian government. The events led to Mr. Trump’s first impeachment in the House of Representatives. He was acquitted in the Senate. Ukrainian media on Tuesday suggested the indictments, too, had a political component for Mr. Zelensky: that they were intended to send a signal to Mr. Biden now, as his administration is pressing Congress for military assistance to Ukraine, that Kyiv will root out accused Russian agents, including those who had promoted accusations against his family. In statements released on Monday, Ukrainian police and the country’s domestic intelligence agency said all three men were members of a spy network established inside the Ukrainian government and handled by Russia’s military intelligence agency, known as the G.R.U. The intelligence agency’s statement said the Russians paid members of the group $10 million. An aide to Mr. Derkach, Ihor Kolesnikov, was detained earlier and convicted on treason charges. Two members of the group, Mr. Derkach and Mr. Kulyk, fled Ukraine after Russia’s full-scale invasion in 2022, the statement said. Mr. Dubinsky was remanded to pretrial detention in a Ukrainian jail on Tuesday. Mr. Dubinsky, in a statement posted on the social networking site Telegram, said that the prosecutors had “not presented one fact” to support the accusations, and that the charges were retribution for criticizing Mr. Zelensky’s government in his role as a member of Parliament. He said that he testified a year and a half ago as a witness in a treason investigation of Mr. Derkach but at the time had not been accused of any wrongdoing. Mr. Dubinsky was expelled from Mr. Zelensky’s political party, Servant of the People, in 2021 after the United States sanctioned him for meddling in the American political process. The Ukrainian intelligence agency’s statement said that Mr. Kulyk had used his position in the prosecutor general’s office to promote investigations that worked “in favor of the Kremlin,” without specifying any cases. In late 2018, Mr. Kulyk compiled a seven-page dossier asserting that Ukrainian prosecutors had evidence that “may attest to the commission of corrupt actions aimed at personal unlawful enrichment by former Vice President of the United States Joe Biden,” according to a copy leaked by a Ukrainian blogger. The dossier suggested that Mr. Biden, when he had served as vice president, had tried to quash a corruption investigation into the natural gas company, Burisma Holdings, where his son served on the board. Former colleagues of Mr. Kulyk at the prosecutor’s office confirmed he had written the document, which helped set in motion an effort by Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, Mr. Giuliani, and other supporters to press for an investigation in Ukraine. In a phone call with Mr. Zelensky that became central to the impeachment case, Mr. Trump had asked the Ukrainian president to investigate supposed conflicts of interest by Mr. Biden when he was vice president, according to White House notes of the call. Mr. Trump denied he had linked military aid to Ukraine to the investigation of the Biden family. Allegations of corruption and ties to Russia had trailed Mr. Kulyk for years in the Ukrainian media and among anti-corruption watchdog groups before he compiled the dossier. In 2016, he was indicted in Ukraine on charges of illegal enrichment for owning apartments and cars that seemed beyond the means of his modest official salary. One car, a Toyota Land Cruiser, had been bought by the father of a military commander fighting on the Russian side in the war in eastern Ukraine.
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https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/new-york-pro-israel-ad-bumping-ukraine-message-is-fake-2023-11-14/ Fact Check: New York pro-Israel ad ‘bumping’ Ukraine message is fake By Reuters Fact Check November 15, 2023 1:31 AM GMT+8 Updated 6 hours ago A video that shows pro-Israel messaging replacing a pro-Ukraine notice on a digital billboard in New York City is fabricated, according to the company managing the unit. The clip shows a street corner in midtown Manhattan and two large screens above it displaying alternating messages: one shows the words “STAND WITH UKRAINE” being knocked off screen by the text “STAND WITH ISRAEL” as Ukrainian flag colors morph into the Israeli flag. The other message contains the phrases “WATCH THE NEWS” and “STAY IN TREND” in the same font as the first set, with an inauthentic ABC News logo underneath. At the end of the clip, the screens cut to an ad for the film “Trolls.” Versions of the video have so far spread on Facebook (archived), TikTok (archived) and messaging platform X, formerly known as Twitter, where it has been viewed (archived) more than 7.7 million times according to the platform. Reuters confirmed the location of the advertising screens as 200 W 50th St, New York. Outdoor advertising company Clear Channel Outdoors, which manages the space, told Reuters the advertisement seen in the video is fake. The ad has never appeared on its screens, a spokesperson for the firm said. ABC News declined to comment on the record. Reuters has previously addressed faked and miscaptioned billboard images circulating online in the context of the Israel-Hamas war that began on Oct. 7. VERDICT False. The digital billboard messages shown in the video never appeared on the New York City display shown, according to the company managing the promotional screen.
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Nov 15, 2023 01:56
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DancingShade posted:How about bio degradable firearms that break down with exposure to sunlight and water? It's eco friendly, save the earth and all that. 
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Nov 15, 2023 02:56
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Nix Panicus posted:From a purely hamburger perspective, Ukraine getting rolled up in the next year would be huge for the republican narrative that Biden is incompetent and/or corrupt and funding Ukraine was a waste of money and/or grift i'd probably say i/p isn't a whole lot different: whether genocide joe keeps on genocidin' or not is going to be tiny compared to how badly material conditions have deteriorated for the masses domestically. certainly will be worse if it continues to decline whilst visibly shovelling money into proxy foreverwars and sayin come on jack just work harder
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Nov 15, 2023 03:08
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you know how it's supposed to be this legendary response that General Anthony McAuliffe replied to the German surrender demand with "nuts!" at Bastogne? well, get a load of this. From Buttar's "Meat Grinder":  
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Nov 15, 2023 03:09
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https://twitter.com/baronitaigas/status/1724029836501336472 i'm surprised it wasn't the russians with attitude that get namedropped as being the most pernicious disinformation twitter
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Nov 15, 2023 03:22
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Nothus posted:Now we're living in the aftermath and the decline is just beginning I'm really curious on what will happen when the "frozen" Russian reserves being held in US and Europe are inevitably seized. Lawmakers have been trying to figure out how to do it for a while now.
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Nov 15, 2023 04:41
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Freezer posted:I'm really curious on what will happen when the "frozen" Russian reserves being held in US and Europe are inevitably seized. Lawmakers have been trying to figure out how to do it for a while now. Simple. Nobody same will hold any assets in the US and Europe unless they are citizens or close allies of the same. Also if you seize I seize, they seize etc. A lot of assets get wiped from lots of balance sheets. Fractional reserve lending clauses are triggered and debt balances come due. A lot of fake money gets wiped out. DancingShade has issued a correction as of 04:45 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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Freezer posted:I'm really curious on what will happen when the "frozen" Russian reserves being held in US and Europe are inevitably seized. Lawmakers have been trying to figure out how to do it for a while now. It would be really easy. Ukraine needs to file suit against Russia in a US court for damages as a result of the war. This will probably result in a default judgement which can then be used to "legally" seize any and all Russian state property that can be found. DancingShade posted:Simple. Nobody same will hold any assets in the US and Europe unless they are citizens or close allies of the same. This is the risk though. To what extent would such an action hasten flight away from American and European banks?
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