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Filet o’fish should be called a fish burger sandwich Imo Some of the weird names are also so they can be copyrighted/trademarked and become part of the branding
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Mantle posted:I suppose that I should add for context in the time period I was talking about there was no such class of "smaller, less feature-filled" notebook/laptop computer. I'm talking about these things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Contura I worked for a computer manufacturer, and our internal glossary was very specific on the point that we did not make any laptops, we made notebooks. It felt a bit like when Burger King says "Oh, we don't make burgers, we make whoppers"
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Nov 14, 2023 20:24
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Lasagna is just a multi layer sandwich with noodles.
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Powered Descent posted:Ordering "just the burger" could be construed as "just the patty, no bun" (as is sometimes ordered by Atkins dieters) so it makes sense that restaurants would make a practice of referring to the whole construction as the "sandwich", for clarity. At one point i tried ordering it as a plain burger instead of a combo and got something with no patty
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EVIL Gibson posted:Lasagna is just a multi layer sandwich with noodles. hell yes
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EVIL Gibson posted:Lasagna is just a multi layer sandwich with noodles. It's a casserole
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EVIL Gibson posted:Lasagna is just a multi-layer sandwich with noodles. Like a hot dog?
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Code Jockey posted:in case of emergency, tug the butt cord whoa deep cut from the lf-days
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Star Man posted:It's a casserole I see it as a really wide big mac
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Trabant posted:I don't know if I've ever bought a thing with a higher aesthetics-to-usefulness ratio: This was not getting enough love in the last page. I guess your Jesus was right about casting perls before swine. 
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By popular demand posted:I guess your Jesus was right about casting perls before swine. Do you mean Python or Ruby?
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Every so often I think of getting a node on ShadyTel or one of the other SIP public PBXes just for fun, but I'm too cheap to get a good Polycom for it. (the irony being I work for a VOIP provider)
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Is it made with a bun? If yes then it's a burger. Is it between two slices of bread? If yes then it's a sandwich.
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Recent tinkering: realized a 486 board is probably good and dead due to battery corrosion but at least it has cache and CPU/fan to salvage. So went back to sorting out the PS/2. The Retro Web gave me false hope that the chipset had hardware EMS support but it appears that was a lie so no conventional DOS memory optimization. And with 10MHz/2MB/VGA, it's marginal for Windows 3.1. But that just made me decide to put on GeoWorks Ensemble, like the 286s and 386s of my newly upgraded high school computer lab. For those not familiar, it was a lightweight GUI from Berkeley Softworks that would run snappily on slower systems than Windows. As near as I knew it never developed much in the way of third-party applications, so it was either use what's built in or use it to launch DOS stuff. I didn't encounter Windows proper until college. Before the upgrade they were C-64s, all rigged up to be able to access a network drive as well as their local floppies. And a PET in back. I want a PET, but they are pricey.
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Humphreys posted:Is it made with a bun? If yes then it's a burger. Is it between two slices of bread? If yes then it's a sandwich. Here the general rule is that burger is pattied meat, chicken on a bun can be a chicken burger but not all chicken on a bun is.
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Killer robot posted:Recent tinkering: realized a 486 board is probably good and dead due to battery corrosion but at least it has cache and CPU/fan to salvage. So went back to sorting out the PS/2. The Retro Web gave me false hope that the chipset had hardware EMS support but it appears that was a lie so no conventional DOS memory optimization. And with 10MHz/2MB/VGA, it's marginal for Windows 3.1. But that just made me decide to put on GeoWorks Ensemble, like the 286s and 386s of my newly upgraded high school computer lab. For those not familiar, it was a lightweight GUI from Berkeley Softworks that would run snappily on slower systems than Windows. As near as I knew it never developed much in the way of third-party applications, so it was either use what's built in or use it to launch DOS stuff. I didn't encounter Windows proper until college. There was a The Far Side calendar program for GeoWorks Ensemble.
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Grassy Knowles posted:Here the general rule is that burger is pattied meat, chicken on a bun can be a chicken burger but not all chicken on a bun is. Your observations about the meat being pattied is apt. If the meat is ground or cut fine enough to be shaped into a form then cooked, then it's a burger. A tuna sandwich is made of uncooked ground tuna , but even if you put it on a bun, it's not a tuna burger. It's still a tuna sandwich using a bun because you ran out of bread
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EVIL Gibson posted:Your observations about the meat being pattied is apt. If the meat is ground or cut fine enough to be shaped into a form then cooked, then it's a burger. It's still a burger, even if it only has one slice bread.  It's still a sandwich, even if it has more than two slices bread. 
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Did somebody say telephone? Whenever you tell someone you like an entertainment franchise, all of your Christmas/birthday presents will be from that franchise. I got this a long time ago. Never hooked it up. There's a cord that goes from the saucer section to the engineering hull, but I didn't attach it. Enjoy       It's authentic!
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Trabant posted:I don't know if I've ever bought a thing with a higher aesthetics-to-usefulness ratio: I feel like more than one villain from a Sci-Fi Channel TV movie had this on their desk.
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If it is good enough for the president and vice-president of Kash N' Gold LTD it is good enough for me
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Mister Kingdom posted:It's authentic!  If you can find a landline connection, do hook it up -- the nacelles light up when the phone rings!
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Spotted on eBay: But who wouldn't be proud of this enormous Wang?  The earliest Wang PC, the Wang Professional Computer, was a fascinating machine. It was made in 1983, with an 8086 processor, 128kB RAM expandable to 640k, floppy with optional Winchester drive, serial and parallel ports, expansion cards, 12" monochrome monitor with simultaneous text and graphic display, and even MS-DOS 2.1 and an assortment of other software. It sounds like a pretty formidable XT competitor with Hercules-like graphics, and it was made by an established company with a good name in the business sphere and leadership that wanted to stick it to IBM. The trick is that it was hardly a PC clone at all. While it had a version of MS-DOS and, thanks to the 8086 CPU, could run programs written for the PC with modification, the hardware level was otherwise totally different. The internal boards had a completely different form factor and bus, the monitor and keyboard ports were totally different from the PC, pretty much every aspect of the computer was different.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEvD7j-taE When the clone market settled in, Wang moved to making more PC-compatible systems, less remarkable but more practical and standardized. Unfortunately, they responded pretty slowly and the rest of the company had management troubles and family drama and gradually came apart. Either way, the Wang Professional Computer is one of those things that turns up often enough in auction but it's a little outside my knowledge and skill level to keep one running like an XT and it's not gonna be friendly to old DOS games, so it's not on my collection list.
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Trabant posted:I don't know if I've ever bought a thing with a higher aesthetics-to-usefulness ratio: Picking up the handset immediately connects you to the Bass Pro store in Memphis.
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Killer robot posted:The trick is that it was hardly a PC clone at all. While it had a version of MS-DOS and, thanks to the 8086 CPU, could run programs written for the PC with modification, the hardware level was otherwise totally different. The internal boards had a completely different form factor and bus, the monitor and keyboard ports were totally different from the PC, pretty much every aspect of the computer was different. A lot of the early non-IBM machines were like that. It was assumed that supporting the same BIOS API calls was enough to be PC-compatible, and that would make software portable. But software quickly started bypassing the BIOS layer as much as possible and hitting the hardware directly because it was much faster, and anything non-standard quickly couldn't run common software any more.
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Sweevo posted:A lot of the early non-IBM machines were like that. It was assumed that supporting the same BIOS API calls was enough to be PC-compatible, and that would make software portable. But software quickly started bypassing the BIOS layer as much as possible and hitting the hardware directly because it was much faster, and anything non-standard quickly couldn't run common software any more. Yeah, the Wang was before the Phoenix BIOS too, so various PC workalikes were a varying combination of copying the hardware design of the PC and copying the software of the BIOS. Off-the-shelf parts made it the first part doable but not always desirable to manufacturers who wanted to do it cheaper or better. The second was harder since unless you had resources to clean-room redesign a BIOS in-house (Compaq) or bold enough to straight up plagiarize and risk IBM's legal team, you weren't gonna match up well. As a result, "clone" could mean multiple things. Wikipedia posted:May 1983, Future Computing defined four levels of compatibility: There was also just the idea that if your computer was popular people would just port their software from other systems using the same CPU and similar other hardware, like was popular in the 8-bit space. It probably sounded especially tempting if you could get pretty good software of your own released, like Wang seemed to. Another odd little one of the era was the Tandy 2000, also released in 1983. It used an Intel 186 processor, which both had the full 16-bit data bus like the Wang's and various other improvements/integrations over the 8088 to make it a technically superior system to anything on the market before 286 systems hit. But its compatibility was pretty bad because the integrated 186 bits didn't really match up with their PC counterparts and the graphics modes were totally different from the PC, so anything that wasn't text-based and tried to talk to hardware directly would fail. A year later they made the Tandy 1000, which was a straight up PC clone with a Phoenix BIOS. A friend of mine who worked at a Radio Shack in the 1980s used to talk about how they had a 2000 in the office though.
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Wang Laboratories was probably the first forgotten PC clone manufacturer I tried to find information about in my young retrocomputer enthusiast life thanks to, well
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Data Graham posted:Here I am, able to watch any movie or any episode of any TV show I can think of, at any time, on demand, on a beautiful full-color screen with higher resolution than my eye can distinguish and better audio than any multi-thousand-dollar sound system of the 80s could fathom
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basically until this thread, the only way I knew of Wang computers was through that very scene in the Simpsons
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If you can find somebody who's streaming Frank's Place, do let me know, please. It was a magnificent one-season show about Black people; the lead was a college professor who inherited the family restaurant and had to move back to New Orleans. Someone uploaded all of the episodes to the Internet Archive
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RoastBeef posted:Someone uploaded all of the episodes to the Internet Archive That Bandai band enriched my life, so thank you for that. Manky posted:It looked to me like it's using repurposed WonderSwan cartridges, I was surprised the video didn't say anything. I wonder if a person could use a flash cart to load custom song data into it. I remember when Wang sold dedicated word processors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_2200 was back in 1973. For a long time (in mayfly years) Wang minicomputer-based office systems were a standard furnishing in the well-heeled company's secretarial pool. The company's decline began with word processors for PCs, which were much less expensive. But they were part of the Massachusetts Miracle, and built an enormous headquarters building in Lowell, Massachusetts. The Compaq Portable, which was a luxury back in the day, was the size of a suitcase; its top folded back to show the screen. It was generally referred to as a "luggable", not a portable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Portable
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Back in the late 80s I was part of a small tour in Australia being a tradeshow event for the new Wang Integrated Image System. This was their document scanning and optical media storage and indexing system that was to usher in the paperless office. Not much info on it out there, that I can find.
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How is no one commenting on Mr.Wang's full-on Wolf-Man nails? Seriously... What is the deal with old computer greybeards and having gross-rear end, long nails?
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DrBouvenstein posted:How is no one commenting on Mr.Wang's full-on Wolf-Man nails? From the seller's name (sheila-something) and the look of the hand otherwise I figured it was an older woman. Which I guess doesn't drastically change the question on how they're kept but it makes long nails less surprising.
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 Tried out Apple's A/UX 3.1 on my SE/30. Not to anyone's surprise, UNIX on a 16MHz 030 is pretty slow at loading.  Put a new badge on the Plus/4, as the original one was bent and kept peeling up
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Great video just released that demonstrates how capturing the pits/landings optically instead of recording the AV output hardware of a player gives better results. https://youtu.be/QDlbwl3f39Q
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EVIL Gibson posted:Great video just released that demonstrates how capturing the pits/landings optically instead of recording the AV output hardware of a player gives better results. On one of the LD groups theres a lunatic who actually works for an archival department for a major broadcaster. Oh boy doesn't he scream that it's a dumb project and not required. There is no reasoning with him. So I enjoy posting any and all DdD updates I can 
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Humphreys posted:On one of the LD groups theres a lunatic who actually works for an archival department for a major broadcaster. Oh boy doesn't he scream that it's a dumb project and not required. There is no reasoning with him. it's interesting to watch the bifurcation in media preservation/"lost media" between hobbyists making sure stuff is accessible to the average consumer and taking advantage of the internet/computer data storage to do so, and the actual commercial/academic archivists who are more interested in keeping as much as possible, but are willing to make compromises about accessibility. Shelby's arguments in that video are largely about keeping best consumer versions available for people, but the project/products aren't that useful for keeping an objectively archival-standard good copy of the actual work available for future study. (Not saying the Domesday Device or the efforts people are making is bad, just different to be clear. Both communities have their advantages and drawbacks.)
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Arivia posted:it's interesting to watch the bifurcation in media preservation/"lost media" between hobbyists making sure stuff is accessible to the average consumer and taking advantage of the internet/computer data storage to do so, and the actual commercial/academic archivists who are more interested in keeping as much as possible, but are willing to make compromises about accessibility. Shelby's arguments in that video are largely about keeping best consumer versions available for people, but the project/products aren't that useful for keeping an objectively archival-standard good copy of the actual work available for future study. I'm almost done with a multi-year project (mainly cos I'm lazy and/or ADHD) and making use of the DdD. I've had to scrap a lot of my captures when I got wind of it now I can get even better results.
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