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Gnoman posted:The MLU birds replaced their AN/APG-66 radars with the AN/APG-66(V)2. The Zhuk-M radars used in the latest Russian fighters is supposed to be comparable with the AN/APG-68 family used in the C/D F-16s, which would suggest it has around twice the effective range of the upgraded -66. The Flash Dance radar in the Mig-31 outclasses all of these handily. let us not forget this quirky little facet concerning the gemstone that is Russian high command, though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi7QFOurr_U
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Nov 15, 2023 15:05
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Personally, I think nazis are bad, and removing them from Ukrainian society is a good thing. Maybe that’s just me though.
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Nov 15, 2023 15:21
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Putin is a real piece of poo poo.
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Nov 15, 2023 15:23
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Gnoman posted:F-16s can't mount Meteor. Even if Ukraine got planes that could Meteor "only" has a claimed range of 200km. The AA-9 Amos is supposed to be 300, while AA-13 Axehead is supposed to do 400. Unlike most Russian equipment, the data we have seen suggests that these claims are substantiated - these missiles work. You're right on Meteor, but I'd dispute the effectiveness of the R-33 and R-37 against fighters. They're the kind of big chonky missiles you cheekily yeet from 200km away in the general direction of a massive slow target like a B52 or AWACS and hope to get a snipe kill from outside the range of its escorts, rather than the kind that can reliably shoot down fast moving and agile fighters flying at low altitude at a distance. But even if they don't have an amazing kill rate for fighters at long range, they ARE still effective in suppressing and disrupting them - when a launch is detected Ukrainian aircraft have to go on the defensive, abandoning whatever mission or task they had. And Ukraine really can't shoot back as they don't have the range or Active Radar Homing missiles (ie: 'fire and forget' ones - the ones they have require the pilot to keep pointing at their target). Providing a platform capable of firing AMRAAMs (especially the longer range variants) - would help even the odds a little - if only by pushing back the distance at which Russian fighters (or bombers for that matter) have to fire - lest they be subject to return attacks of their own.
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Nov 15, 2023 15:29
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The Top G posted:Personally, I think nazis are bad, and removing them from Ukrainian society is a good thing. Maybe that’s just me though. Such a controversial statement, how brave! Just give us a list of all the How do you feel about war? Is it also bad? Victis fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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Nov 15, 2023 15:49
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Tigey posted:You're right on Meteor, but I'd dispute the effectiveness of the R-33 and R-37 against fighters. They're the kind of big chonky missiles you cheekily yeet from 200km away in the general direction of a massive slow target like a B52 or AWACS and hope to get a snipe kill from outside the range of its escorts, rather than the kind that can reliably shoot down fast moving and agile fighters flying at low altitude at a distance. You're right. Flying AMRAAMs (note that they already have AMRAAMS as part of the NASAMS system) would allow a lot of pushback. It just isn't a magic bullet that will singlehandedly change the course of the war. Your point on the effectiveness of Amos and Axehead is also correct. Ukrainian reports claim that they've caused very few hard kills, but forcing aircraft to evade (which likely requires dumping their payload) is still a massive anchor on their movements. And that's something that simply can't be easily overcome - even if Ukraine gets a F-16 or other Western aircraft for every single pilot they have, they won't get missiles with equal range because there aren't any to give. Having more planes in the first place will help enormously, because there will be more to shoot at, and aggressive use of F-16s would keep the Russian planes back far enough to open up operational possibilities for other planes, but the threat won't go away.
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Nov 15, 2023 15:53
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Tai posted:200 km is fine for this. Ukraine won't be given the thumbs up to hit stuff within Russias border with NATO missiles. That is, and always has been, a really stupid limitation and it needs to go at some point especially if Ukraine manages to start pushing Russians back across the border. "No you are not allowed to hit that artillery position/logistics warehouse/airfield/motor yard because it is 5 km inside Russia even if they keep shelling your hospitals and elementary schools at constant rate and keep supplying the entire front that is 40 km inside into Ukraine". So Russians can hit you, but you can't hit the Russians.
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Nov 15, 2023 15:56
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The Top G posted:Personally, I think nazis are bad, and removing them from Ukrainian society is a good thing. Maybe that’s just me though. Same here! And the sooner Russia leaves, the sooner that's done!
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Nov 15, 2023 15:57
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The Top G posted:Personally, I think nazis are bad, and removing them from Ukrainian society is a good thing. Maybe that’s just me though. In the case of nationalism, it's a lot of Russian supremacists fighting yes, Ukrainian supremacists, to try and 'prove' whose culture will win out. It's Nazis vs Nazis buddy, no one's denazifying anything it's just like an ant war where they're trying to survive as The Naziest Nazis. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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Nov 15, 2023 16:01
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The Top G posted:Personally, I think nazis are bad, and removing them from Ukrainian society is a good thing. Maybe that’s just me though. start with yourself
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Nov 15, 2023 16:39
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war bad
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Nov 15, 2023 16:56
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Gnoman posted:F-16s can't mount Meteor. Even if Ukraine got planes that could Meteor "only" has a claimed range of 200km. The AA-9 Amos is supposed to be 300, while AA-13 Axehead is supposed to do 400. Unlike most Russian equipment, the data we have seen suggests that these claims are substantiated - these missiles work. Meteor has no officially claimed maximum range. The only number they advertise with is the no-escape zone, which is >60km against any fighter currently in use. From that, and fairly sensible assumptions, you can calculate that the kinematic maximum range against a non-manouvering target (which is what the 400km of R-37M is comparable to) would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 500km. Meteor is the longest-ranged A2A missile currently fielded by anyone, which is a claim that MBDA is making, but because they have chosen to keep the maximum range secret, you won't find that on the internet.
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Nov 15, 2023 17:01
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The Top G posted:Personally, I think nazis are bad, and removing them from Ukrainian society is a good thing. Maybe that’s just me though. Good thing monke removed the entriety of the Wanker SS's leadership, all known and avowed Nazis, with an SAM battery because Pig Boss decided to larp a revolution thinking it'd happen consequence free.
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Nov 15, 2023 17:11
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Nazis, commonly recognised by... their Ukrainian surnames idiots also used image of Ukrainian singer Fiinka 
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Nov 15, 2023 17:19
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I'm afraid that because Nazis are Bad I'm going to have to put all these children into a concentration camp because Their Names Are Pronounced Wrong
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Nov 15, 2023 17:32
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The Top G posted:Personally, I think nazis are bad, and removing them from Ukrainian society is a good thing. Maybe that’s just me though. What a dogshit dumbass post
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Nov 15, 2023 17:37
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StrangersInTheNight posted:In the case of nationalism, it's a lot of Russian supremacists fighting yes, Ukrainian supremacists, to try and 'prove' whose culture will win out. It's Nazis vs Nazis buddy, no one's denazifying anything it's just like an ant war where they're trying to survive as The Naziest Nazis. Ukrainian nationalists in the midst of a foreign invasion aren't nazis  what in the worldAny country in the world would see their population become nationalist when they're invaded by a genocidal foreign neighbor and it doesn't make them nazis to do so Ukrainian supremacists?? Lmfao
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Nov 15, 2023 17:41
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even if you're some sort of "the truth is somewhere in the middle!!" dumbass how much of a pathetic idiot you must be to try and argue that forcing people to change their names is good actually and is something to do with nazism??? like oh my loving god log off.
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Nov 15, 2023 17:41
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hemale in pain posted:even if you're some sort of "the truth is somewhere in the middle!!" dumbass how much of a pathetic idiot you must be to try and argue that forcing people to change their names is good actually and is something to do with nazism??? like oh my loving god log off.
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Nov 15, 2023 17:42
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1724829016706675123 From fishblocks to LG refrigerators. Note that LG is fully operating in Russia. They sell latest stuff and have ads with local streaming services. CatHorse fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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Nov 15, 2023 17:47
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The more important question is if they were allowed to keep those fridges or not.
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Nov 15, 2023 17:48
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Cackling on the bus over Ukrainian supremacists, goddamn just ordered my azov patch and joined the banderite militia
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Nov 15, 2023 17:48
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I'm agreeing with you that it's Russian imperialism bc just lol if you think Russia of all places is denazifying anything. They got their own nationalist population, which they encourage bc Russian supremacy as a cultural value helps bolster support for the war, as well as many other lovely things. It is impossible to deny that things like Azov exist, and did before the war (though arguably maybe not before Russia's actions in Crimea), but that doesn't mean that Russia is invading because they're actually in any real danger of being hurt by these militias, or going to 'denazify' anything - all of that is all a flimsy pretext for Russian imperialism. Russian nationalism and the reactionary nationalism against Russian nationalism is a cycle that's been going on since the fall of the USSR StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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Nov 15, 2023 17:53
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So Russia invaded Ukraine, thus forcing Ukrainians to become nazis, and thus this justifies Ukrainians being wiped off the face of the earth? With or without any claims that Ukrainians were already nazis before this all happened, because All Of Those People Are Inherently Irredeemably Evil? I dunno about this one  hemale in pain posted:even if you're some sort of "the truth is somewhere in the middle!!" dumbass how much of a pathetic idiot you must be to try and argue that forcing people to change their names is good actually and is something to do with nazism??? like oh my loving god log off. Wait until you hear the story about the guy who created the Galil rifle
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Nov 15, 2023 17:54
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The funniest part about the Galil's creation is that it came about because the IDF were too loving incompetent to be able to find a reliable source of AK-47s, the most prolific and available assault rifle ever produced by a factor of like three.quote:When the IDF began the process of procuring a new, automatic rifle, the AK-47 was considered, but the difficulty of procurement limited its viability. Hence the IDF specifically sought a weapon that would offer the same benefits as AK-47, such as low maintenance requirements, but would also have the accuracy of the M16 and FN FAL.
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Nov 15, 2023 18:00
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What the? Justifies? Please don't tilt at conservative windmills; I was responding to someone whom I thought was parroting the 'its good to try and denazify the Ukraine' perspective with pointing out, in a joking and tacky manner for sure, that it's rich for Russia to say that when that's not what they're doing, bc they got their own Nazi contingent. If I misunderstood the context of what I was responding to initially, apologies. But it read like someone being reductive and 'well actually Nazis are bad so we should support Russia in getting rid of them (in the Ukraine)' and hard no to that.
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Nov 15, 2023 18:02
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The Top G is, uh, not posting in good faith, to put it delicately.
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Nov 15, 2023 18:04
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Top G posts are the posting equivalent of a meat assault
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Nov 15, 2023 18:07
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PSA: forums poster "top g" is the most blindingly obvious troll we have had in this thread in a year. if you would like to use this information to touch the poop and troll right back i suppose nobody can stop you, but let's take it as an understanding that everything that account posts is completely brain dead. you need not convince anyone of it or call it out. ty.
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Nov 15, 2023 18:08
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Don't take the bait! Don't do it! I told you about bait bro!
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Nov 15, 2023 18:08
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weg posted:Don't take the bait! Don't do it! I told you about bait bro! Fishbrick never arrive , such is life blyat I will post instead
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Nov 15, 2023 18:10
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Top g ftw
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Nov 15, 2023 18:11
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Top g bad
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Nov 15, 2023 18:37
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Ok globohomo nazi super satans, day 666 of the three day special military operation that we nefariously engineered the casus belli for is soon upon us. Got any special military plans for the occasion? A little gender bending perhaps? Some human rights? Erect me a hospital devil daddy :satan:
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Nov 15, 2023 18:39
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Karate Bastard posted:Ok globohomo nazi super satans, day 666 of the three day special military operation that we nefariously engineered the casus belli for is soon upon us. Got any special military plans for the occasion? A little gender bending perhaps? Some human rights? Erect me a hospital devil daddy :satan: I was gonna scratch my balls, take a nap, and not poo poo my pants
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Nov 15, 2023 18:41
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HonorableTB posted:Top G posts are the posting equivalent of a meat assault Isn't Andrew Tate the Top G?!?!?!
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Nov 15, 2023 18:41
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MikusR posted:https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1724829016706675123 Joke's on them, aren't LG appliances garbage? Although yeah we should press them a bit to at least sabotage them more.
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Nov 15, 2023 18:42
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Der Kyhe posted:That is, and always has been, a really stupid limitation and it needs to go at some point especially if Ukraine manages to start pushing Russians back across the border. If Ukraine ever starts winning the war and pushes Russia back to their border but Russia keeps fighting I can't imagine Ukraine would just stop then and there. Russia has to stop for this war to stop
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Nov 15, 2023 18:43
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mobby_6kl posted:Joke's on them, aren't LG appliances garbage? They're better than Samsung, which isn't saying much.
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Nov 15, 2023 18:47
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I was thinking about all those bags of KFC that the delegation from China took to Moscow when Xi visited earlier this year to meet with Puta. I wonder if it's symbolically a reference to the mountains of frozen chicken thighs that the US sent to Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union, or the Chicken Diplomacy from H W Bush. (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/12/06/673806672/chicken-diplomacy-how-president-bush-went-for-the-gut-in-the-former-ussr)  Bringing cold fast food to another country as catering for a meeting between leaders of nations is not something that I can imagine anyone but Larry David doing naively.
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