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I do think the biggest problem is that Feige is spread too thin, and the other people running projects are clearly not up to it. Look to Secret Invasion to see how well delegating a project worked.
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Soonmot posted:But the biggest thing was, as has been said, the way the teases in phase 1/2/3 led right into the next movie instead of being something set up for who knows when. We need "Next time on Starrrrr Trek, The Next Generation," not "five years from now, in some movie we haven't even announced yet!" CatstropheWaitress posted:So long as they give it time. Like 4-5 years at least. He's 1000% coming back in Secret War. They all are. We all are. We've all been cast already. Pretty sure I'm playing Frightened Trans Woman in the first act. Though that'll just be Frightened Man #6 in the international markets. LividLiquid fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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LividLiquid posted:This is a much bigger problem than people realize, I reckon. The only far-off stinger in Phases 1 and 2 was Thanos in Avengers. And even then, Thanos is in Guardians of the Galaxy, which was two years after The Avengers. His biggest gap was between Age of Ultron and Infinity War and that was three years. Shang-Chi and Eternals were both two years ago and there's no sign that they're going to reappear any time soon. live with fruit fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Nov 15, 2023 |
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Nybble posted:It’s probably an impossible question to answer, but how much did the strikes affect the marketing and outreach of the movie? Iman Vellani not being able to get out there and exude joy about the movie probably didn’t help sales. It would have had an impact. But it wouldn't have doubled sales and doubling The Marvels box office numbers still has it as a massive failure.
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Ms marvel isn't very recognizable from a public standpoint especially if you aren't a Disney plus subscriber. Spectrum might as well not exist. Trailers don't show anything exciting and have a villain no one knows what the deal is. Basically they did a really piss poor job of setting this up as a theatrical release
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Soonmot posted:I feel it was also easier to build stories around the macguffins of the infinity stones than Kang or the multiverse. But the biggest thing was, as has been said, the way the teases in phase 1/2/3 led right into the next movie instead of being something set up for who knows when. I haven’t read the book yet but I wanted to add something that also contributed to this mess: When Chapek took over in 2020 he created a new vertical inside Disney that put all the movie studios and TV under the supervision of his buddy Kareem Daniel, so while Feige did get a promotion he was also not in direct control over every aspect of Marvel programming. The Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution business unit got a LOT of say over what got greenlit and where projects would end up (many projects ended up on Disney+ and as a result kneecapped their income potential). Now this DMED was dismantled when Iger came back last year, but basically everything that’s been released this year was fostered under this Daniel regime.
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they spent a lot of time setting up Female Wars and looks like they have no idea what to do with it. with Elaine, other secret service lady, Shang Chi's sister, captain america blonde lady, echo, ironheart
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I started reading a lot of older Marvel comics via their subscription service, and really started to understand that the “spin off stories in 100 directions, tie them together when it makes sense” idea works fine in comics because they are quickly turned around and have predictable scheduling. It is almost impossible in live action movies and TV, especially at the current budgets and mismanagement between all the different internal studios. If they trimmed down the cost per episode, and possibly did more animated shows, then maybe they could keep broadening the scope for many different characters.
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What If? Season 2 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiEVqZ2Bc_c Dropping one a day starting December 22nd.
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edit: T'Chaka is not T'Challa, misread the subtitles on the video
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Was that the actual Jeff Goldblum? 
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Rappaport posted:Was that the actual Jeff Goldblum? Yeah, he showed up for a couple lines in the first season during the Party Thor episode.
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Teek posted:What If? Season 2 trailer: Trying to figure out who that not-Scott Lang Ant-Man is. Is it supposed to be Eric O'Grady?
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Arist posted:Trying to figure out who that not-Scott Lang Ant-Man is. Is it supposed to be Eric O'Grady? By the voice I'd say young Hank Pym
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I was confused for a bit if I was supposed to know who the brown-haired woman was until realizing it was Annette Bening's Mar Vell
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I thought for a second we saw Mobius but I think it's Howard Stark.
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What If... Howard Stark rode a jet ski
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I wouldn't mind if they just made "What If...?" all about the Captain Carter reality, which I assume this 80s Avengers story exists in.
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live with fruit posted:I wouldn't mind if they just made "What If...?" all about the Captain Carter reality, which I assume this 80s Avengers story exists in. With Bucky as the Winter Soldier there, I doubt it's connected. According to the leaked episode list, the 80s Avengers takes place in a world where Yondu delivered Peter to Ego.
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Gavok posted:According to the leaked episode list, the 80s Avengers takes place in a world where Yondu delivered Peter to Ego. Definitely sounds like an Avengers-level threat.
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Nov 15, 2023 21:24
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I appreciate Marvel generating Holiday content every year. So far we have Hawkeye, Guardians Christmas Special, and now it looks like at least an episode of What If?
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Zero One posted:Poster What If… You Got That Bike For Christmas When You Were 12?
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Is that Justin Hammer with the Iron Man socks? Because if anyone is perfect to play the villain in an Avengers Christmas story it's Justin Hammer.
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The_Doctor posted:What If… You Got That Super Nintendo For Christmas When You Were 12? Fixed this for me and now I feel empty
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Nov 15, 2023 22:41
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What if ... everyone agreed Die Hard was a Christmas Movie?
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Pedro angling to cement that Disney Legend status: https://deadline.com/2023/11/pedro-pascal-reed-richards-marvel-studios-fantastic-four-1235599560/ I think I’m more interested in who Doom is, since it seems like he will be carrying much of the load from here on out. Also seems like the perfect person to tease in a Deadpool 3 end credits with its rumored storyline.
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Pixeltendo posted:What if ... everyone agreed Die Hard was a Christmas Movie? You mean there are people who disagree? 
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Teek posted:What If? Season 2 trailer:
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My first thought was Dani Moonstar, but that just might be showing how long it is since I've actually read any comics, back when the only two Native American characters I can think of were her and..... Warpath.... 
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I believe she’s an original character, involving the tesseract or something?
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I think Mirage is also Native American but I know very little about her I'm glad Superior Strange or whatever people call him is back for this
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think Mirage is also Native American but I know very little about her Mirage is Dani Moonstar.
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Teek posted:I believe she’s an original character, involving the tesseract or something? Yeah IIRC it's the Tesseract landing in America pre-colonization and she's a newly created character for this episode I'm pretty interested in it since it sounded like they put a lot of work into it compared to some of the other ones
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ScreenRant says she's Kahhori, a new character for the MCU from the Mohawk people Yes, they did get actual Mohawk people to consult on that episode, thank God.
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Technowolf posted:ScreenRant says she's Kahhori, a new character for the MCU from the Mohawk people
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FlamingLiberal posted:Oh interesting. Seems like she will end up teaming up with other variant characters like they did with last season and Captain Carter/T'Challa Star Lord/Supreme Strange, etc Presumably she's in the Marvel 1602 episode.
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Jerusalem posted:My first thought was Dani Moonstar, but that just might be showing how long it is since I've actually read any comics, back when the only two Native American characters I can think of were her and..... Warpath.... Forge is Cheyenne and predates both of them.
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Oh I completely forgot about Forge. What was his mutant power? He could... make anything? Which, I never quite understood that.
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Jerusalem posted:Oh I completely forgot about Forge. What was his mutant power? He could... make anything? Which, I never quite understood that. Forge's deal is that he's an intensely spiritual person (I think the term 'shaman' is used) given powers over technology. This is a mostly forgotten detail in modern comics, but there was an idea at the beginning.
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