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palindrome
Feb 3, 2020

corona familiar posted:

for what it's worth, this has become enough of a problem that there's pressure for companies that "care about employees" to arrange for tender offers to buy employee shares before the company gets acquired or has some hypothetical IPO

that being said, you probably got options instead of shares, so you have to pony up a bunch of cash to exercise them and get hit by a big tax bill on shares that have zero liquidity outside of promises made by startup ceos and VCs

if the private company is big enough other gamblers care to buy shares, people can enter into the wild world of private market sales and try their luck there

it's still a much bigger risk than cash or working at a company with public stock but the "expected value of your stock is zero" is becoming less common. now it can be slightly positive or even negative if you have bad luck!


the silver lining is that there are complex financial instruments that will translate employee stonk promises into cash-only loan offers to buy houses with.

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corona familiar
Aug 13, 2021

palindrome posted:

the silver lining is that there are complex financial instruments that will translate employee stonk promises into cash-only loan offers to buy houses with.

yeah, iirc those are part of the private markets casino and the company needs to be :captainpop: enough for others to want to give you the cash

good if you work at a Stripe or Quora in perma-"we'll IPO someday", bad if you're working at the 99% of other startups

palindrome
Feb 3, 2020

yeah, good if you want to buy houses using a cash offer that other people maybe wanted to try and buy with a mortgage, lol

don't hate the player though, hate the game v:unsmith:v

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

palindrome posted:

I've worked with HVAC guys on things like honeywell and siemens systems and they loving suck at the IT part of it. Like they are the ones that get to configure the digital controls of the heating and air conditioning system by connecting to a customer's server that is running software from their platform and it is a clownshow. I am also sure I am not working with their best who are probably busy doing multi-million skyscraper builds. I'd be willing to get into that game and I don't expect FAANG money but I also have zero experience actually working on a heating system or industrial control. I bet I could configure the software and webserver real good though. Make those fans spin and optimal levels and ensure the IP based hardware controllers were reachable. Is that a 60k job or a 200k job.

it's a rule that fancy systems come with poo poo software support, what are you gonna do about it? Not use Honeywell or Siemens?

I work with chemical analysis instruments from a lot of the big players and their software all suck to begin with. Except Agilent, they're ok. Service is hit or miss, depends entirely on who covers your area.

palindrome
Feb 3, 2020

You are correct, it's just a fascinating niche of software meets fancy system that has lovely support. I was hoping someone in between was getting paid 150k+. Seems like no, not in an industrial environment.

Way back in the day I had to occasionally troubleshoot things like zeiss microscopes, and in one instance their license key was literally a serial key dongle that you had to plug in somewhere. Don't have a serial port on your 1998 desktop? Not our problem. Now fast-forward 25 years, and lets get a, uh, serial to TCP/IP box that will surely work forever. Cool, high fives guys.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

is X back to being called twitter again? I don't see the X logo anymore

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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

palindrome posted:

You are correct, it's just a fascinating niche of software meets fancy system that has lovely support. I was hoping someone in between was getting paid 150k+. Seems like no, not in an industrial environment.

Way back in the day I had to occasionally troubleshoot things like zeiss microscopes, and in one instance their license key was literally a serial key dongle that you had to plug in somewhere. Don't have a serial port on your 1998 desktop? Not our problem. Now fast-forward 25 years, and lets get a, uh, serial to TCP/IP box that will surely work forever. Cool, high fives guys.

now-a-days you just have to pay an insane always-on subscription service to bentley or zeiss or whatever. and if you dont pay the outrageous subscription costs that go up +15% every year, well, gl. i loving hate how everything is subscription, or even if its "maintenance" its still a mandatory "maintenance" fee or w/e

honestly, i'd take the loving serial port dongle

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
https://m.sevendaysvt.com/news/vermont-health-care-workers-are-grappling-with-unprecedented-workplace-violence-39516422

quote:

The people who work in Vermont's busiest emergency department have been punched in the face. They've been bitten, stabbed with kitchen shears and battered with metal food trays. They've had their lips split open, noses broken and eyes blackened.

Working in an emergency room always comes with risk. But as hospitals have absorbed the swell of humanity ill-served by so many other struggling systems of care, staff at the University of Vermont Medical Center say they have endured violence of a severity and frequency that is unprecedented — and unsustainable. The escalating threats have led many to consider leaving their jobs. Some already have.

Emergency department workers began raising alarms during the pandemic about the dangers they face. The UVM Medical Center responded by installing a metal detector and beefing up the presence of security guards. It also lobbied lawmakers for heightened legal protections.

Now, hospital officials are embarking on a public awareness campaign about the unacceptable perils of emergency care. Last month, a video produced by the UVM Health Network featuring testimony by its workers was featured on the New York Times website as part of an op-ed. The hospital followed up with a print and online campaign in local media calling for an end to the "silence on health care violence." Overnight, Vermont's only level-one trauma center became the face of a nationwide problem.
Longtime medical workers say violent incidents spiked as the pandemic waned and emergency departments became busier than ever.

A rash of physical assaults in 2020 spurred the UVM Medical Center to start collecting better data on workplace violence. Staff members have reported more than 2,100 incidents since the start of 2021, according to the hospital. The vast majority have occurred in the emergency department, where employees treat patients who are in the throes of drug withdrawal, severe pain and psychiatric crisis.

"All my friends have been assaulted," said Joey Miller, a mental health technician who works in the emergency room. Miller, who provides one-on-one supervision of psychiatric patients, said he has been spit on, kicked, scratched and threatened with a knife. Two years ago, a patient broke Miller's hand. When he returned to work weeks later, still wearing a soft cast, he had to restrain someone who attacked three of his colleagues. He went home that day with a scratch across his face.

"I've never been bitten, which is very lucky and exceptional in my role," Miller said.

Longtime medical workers say violent incidents spiked as the pandemic waned and emergency departments became busier than ever. The UVM Medical Center now sees between 200 and 220 emergency patients most days, a 10 to 20 percent increase compared to the pre-COVID-19 figure. That's led to longer wait times and more frustration.

There's also been a startling rise in the number of patients who are in psychiatric crisis. Some days, half of the ER's 45 or so beds are occupied by mental health patients, who can be confused, scared and prone to outbursts. They often stay for days while awaiting transfer to one of Vermont's few inpatient psychiatric units. The hospital has had to restrain patients far more often, at least once a day on average, data show.

Staff members say more patients seem to be arriving under the influence of alcohol or drugs that can cause paranoia or aggression.

But not every incident can be blamed on substance use or mental illness, according to Matt Looft, a charge nurse. Some people who have assaulted staff members have been fully aware of their actions and the potential harm.

"We care for people who are in crisis. We see people on their bad days," Looft said. "Often, that agitation or vulnerability is magnified and can spill over in unexpected, uncharacteristic ways, like violence."

The impact on workers isn't just physical. The rising violence has added to a growing sense of burnout among emergency room staff, who were also on the front lines of the pandemic. It's also changed the way people approach their jobs.
"I want to care for my patients and do what I can to make them better. But I'm not going to put myself in harm's way anymore." Karah Newman

After suffering a broken nose at the hands of a patient last year, nurse Karah Newman felt herself panicking whenever a patient became agitated. She now tries to keep her distance from patients who show signs of aggression and strives to have other people in the vicinity whenever possible.
lol hospitals installing metal detectors because americans cant stop stabbing and shooting the help. good country, great economy, everyone's doing great

Testicular Torque Wrench
Apr 14, 2016

yeet

Xaris posted:

https://m.sevendaysvt.com/news/vermont-health-care-workers-are-grappling-with-unprecedented-workplace-violence-39516422

lol hospitals installing metal detectors because americans cant stop stabbing and shooting the help. good country, great economy, everyone's doing great

I'm a nurse and being assaulted is such routine that we don't even report incidents. My last assault was 2 days ago, punched in the gut by an ambulatory dementia patient that was trying to rip a door off its hinges.

Speaking of salary, who's got that big $$$ healthcare plug?

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Testicular Torque Wrench posted:

I'm a nurse and being assaulted is such routine that we don't even report incidents. My last assault was 2 days ago, punched in the gut by an ambulatory dementia patient that was trying to rip a door off its hinges.

Speaking of salary, who's got that big $$$ healthcare plug?
goondolences. from what i hear, its gotten insanely bad the past few years as if americans suddenly snapped. if i had a job where i'm regularly stabbed and shot at, id nope out ASAP unless we're talking like 600k+ a year and get to retire at 50

seems like also up for retail workers

Testicular Torque Wrench
Apr 14, 2016

yeet

Xaris posted:

goondolences. from what i hear, its gotten insanely bad the past few years as if americans suddenly snapped.

I actually just remembered, I got my butt slapped by a dementia granny yesterday. I guess that counts as SA.

Families of patients have definitely become much more insane. There was a formal complaint yesterday because the staff didnt smile enough ... while changing a specific patient's incontinence product. She has covid so they're wearing masks..

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Testicular Torque Wrench posted:

I actually just remembered, I got my butt slapped by a dementia granny yesterday. I guess that counts as SA.

Families of patients have definitely become much more insane. There was a formal complaint yesterday because the staff didnt smile enough ... while changing a specific patient's incontinence product. She has covid so they're wearing masks..

This country has fully detached from reality and you're on the exciting front lines! Goongratulations!

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
they were definitely just anti-maskers angry the staff reminded them of the year 2020

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Testicular Torque Wrench posted:

I'm a nurse and being assaulted is such routine that we don't even report incidents. My last assault was 2 days ago, punched in the gut by an ambulatory dementia patient that was trying to rip a door off its hinges.

Speaking of salary, who's got that big $$$ healthcare plug?

The problem is also that violent patients rarely get prosecuted.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Testicular Torque Wrench posted:

I actually just remembered, I got my butt slapped by a dementia granny yesterday. I guess that counts as SA.

Families of patients have definitely become much more insane. There was a formal complaint yesterday because the staff didnt smile enough ... while changing a specific patient's incontinence product. She has covid so they're wearing masks..

I had a patient give me 0/5 review on every review site they could find. The doctor ones, google, my NPI page, yahoo, askeeves: whatever. Her only complaint was that she couldn’t find parking.

I listened to some HCA manager tell me with and kept a straight face. Very interested in the providers thinking of innovative parking solutions.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

poemdexter posted:

If you like your personal hell, you can keep it.

Hell is other folks.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Azuth0667 posted:

The problem is also that violent patients rarely get prosecuted.

Yeah but that’s an easy problem to solve in the ER: honey drip gauge needle with 3mg/kg of ketamine, right through their pants into the thigh, have respiratory nearby.

Family is a much bigger problem. We have multiple cops in our er at all times, both working off hours and just kind of circulating. If a family member strikes a provider or nurse or cna (lol when we have them) they’re getting jumped almost immediately and the ones doing it know none of the medical personnel are going to be “able to recall” exactly what happened.

I’ve told this story before but HCA bought my local hospital about six years ago. Prior to that purchase they were a top 10 hospital system nationally. Since then everything that isn’t cardiology, ortho or surgery has gotten the axe. Shortly after the acquisitions, nurses went on strike because of how bad it was. They won, but HCA has been slow rolling the changes and forcing out as many people as they can and replacing them with baby nurses and travellers. They’ve largely succeeded.

One of the worst things they’ve done is get around ER nursing minimums. You have to have x nurse per y number of patients just for obvious safety and patient care reasons. This is different by floor? Cardiac ICU? 1-2 patients per nurse. Ortho step down? Maybe 4-5 on a good unit, 10 on a bad one. University of Vermont nurses have a clause in their employment that stipulates the hospital must being in travelers just to make sure the regular nurses meet their minimums.

To keep from hiring nurses in the ED, HCA just doesn’t let them in there. If you show up to the hospital, and you are not septic, having an MI or stroke, or have a bone sticking out, you are going to sit in the waiting room. Period. There will be one nurse getting vitals. There are some doctors behind a screen in what used to be a cafe. All CMS reimbursement cases about is how quickly patients are seen. So if you show up with flu like symptoms, you’ll get checked in, have your vitals taken, get two minutes with a doctor, and then get comfy. This is with 80 percent of a brand new ER empty. I have reduced and splinted bones in the waiting room and I am not exaggerating. I’m sure you can imagine what that ER waiting room is like at night.

If you come via EMS at night? If it’s a trauma or heart you’re going right to a bay and getting great care. Grandma fall down go boom at a nursing home? You’ll be given pain meds (maybe), women will get a sponge hooked up to a tube on their vagina to suck up urine, and uh whelp see you in the morning! Hope the overworked ED doc remembered your protocols.

The main problem isn’t the violent or angry family members: it’s the poo poo heads in nashville with a management degree from MTSU realizing they can maximize shareholder value by leaving beds empty and charging patients for bandaids. These people have addresses.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

There are around 700k houses on the market right now compared to around 960k houses a year ago (on the phone now but pulled a chart from FRED earlier). If 10% of that volume were people being forced to sell and travel back to the office it would represent a forced migration unparalleled in modern American history.

Now hold on. We've had some pretty epic forced migrations...practically the entire continent had to pick up and move west.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Xaris posted:

https://m.sevendaysvt.com/news/vermont-health-care-workers-are-grappling-with-unprecedented-workplace-violence-39516422

lol hospitals installing metal detectors because americans cant stop stabbing and shooting the help. good country, great economy, everyone's doing great

hmmm, i always thought having metal detectors at the ER was the norm? well good to see people getting same level of service as richmond/oakland i guess. lol.
always enjoy how the best ER service you get is when they check your insurance and ask for payment haha.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Working in US (and many other western countries') healthcare makes you part of a system designed to prey on people in their times of need to extract the greatest amount of wealth from them. It's not exactly insane that this (as well as so many other factors of US society) induces aggression.

I fully understand the people in the front lines didn't go into these jobs for these reasons, and in fact genuinely want to help people, but the purpose of a system is what it does and you are ultimately a cog in that machine.

And poo poo like this:

quote:

Family is a much bigger problem. We have multiple cops in our er at all times, both working off hours and just kind of circulating. If a family member strikes a provider or nurse or cna (lol when we have them) they’re getting jumped almost immediately and the ones doing it know none of the medical personnel are going to be “able to recall” exactly what happened.

Is just feeding the cycle by responding to violence with more (state-sponsored) violence. You're all basically becoming cops here. I get that it's to protect yourselves, but that's also what cops say when they do cop violence in their cop jobs.


The whole system is violent, top to bottom. The main problem is capitalism. The only solution is revolution.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

fits my needs posted:

hmmm, i always thought having metal detectors at the ER was the norm? well good to see people getting same level of service as richmond/oakland i guess. lol.
always enjoy how the best ER service you get is when they check your insurance and ask for payment haha.

when I worked at a hospital the only time we used a metal detector on anyone was for transporting mental health risk patients to a separate facility, and that was mostly to prevent self harm

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Orange Devil posted:


Is just feeding the cycle by responding to violence with more (state-sponsored) violence. You're all basically becoming cops here. I get that it's to protect yourselves, but that's also what cops say when they do cop violence in their cop jobs.


The whole system is violent, top to bottom. The main problem is capitalism. The only solution is revolution.

the maga poo poo head slapping the nurse who doesn’t speak good enough English for his mother will never face consequences. And the HCW assaulted will be lucky to get paid time off to recover, or more likely fired.

If you think me wanting to protect a nurse any way I can is the same as a cop yelling “he’s coming right for me” before unloading on a stroller then I don’t know what to tell you. You’ve clearly never worked at a lvl 1 trauma center.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Orange Devil posted:

The whole system is violent, top to bottom. The main problem is capitalism. The only solution is revolution.

All of my immigrant family except me and my brother do medical work of some kind; the problem is americans. they're a uniquely hosed in the head population. capitalism is a factor in this but american culture/american mindsets are a big one too and needs to die.

nothing short of reeducation camps or several world-shattering events will accomplish this tho

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Critical support for reeducation camps for Americans.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
all those nurse/cop couples make so much sense now lol

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

fits my needs posted:

all those nurse/cop couples make so much sense now lol

one of my cousins used her nursing skills to hide how badly her cop boyfriend was beating her for like 2 years before he killed himself after trying to kill her and their infant

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Martha Stewart Undying posted:

one of my cousins used her nursing skills to hide how badly her cop boyfriend was beating her for like 2 years before he killed himself after trying to kill her and their infant

jfc what the gently caress

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Martha Stewart Undying posted:

one of my cousins used her nursing skills to hide how badly her cop boyfriend was beating her for like 2 years before he killed himself after trying to kill her and their infant

For life insurance purposes with the cop union he died in a tragic accident while cleaning his gun.

Thats why they always leave out their gun cleaning kit when they off themselves.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
man i hope i never have a mental breakdown at a lvl 1 trauma center where i have to be beaten by cops for my own health

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







fits my needs posted:

man i hope i never have a mental breakdown at a lvl 1 trauma center where i have to be beaten by cops for my own health

My post is about family members but okay

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

FizFashizzle posted:

For life insurance purposes with the cop union he died in a tragic accident while cleaning his gun.

Thats why they always leave out their gun cleaning kit when they off themselves.

you know, this makes me want to ask if this is what she/the cops family claimed because i think the kid gets some kind of survivor benefits

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
i was a transportation aide in the different departments, so like not really a medical professional or whatever.
but there was lots of stuff people weren't "able to recall" for all kinds of stuff in my experience haha.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

FizFashizzle posted:

the maga poo poo head slapping the nurse who doesn’t speak good enough English for his mother will never face consequences. And the HCW assaulted will be lucky to get paid time off to recover, or more likely fired.

If you think me wanting to protect a nurse any way I can is the same as a cop yelling “he’s coming right for me” before unloading on a stroller then I don’t know what to tell you. You’ve clearly never worked at a lvl 1 trauma center.

That isn't what the poster said at all.

Beached Whale
Jun 27, 2009

The world as will and idea
Reminder that Biden still hasn't dumped Louis DeJoy and he's still laser focused at destroying the postal service

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1724611930780836031

quote:

The agency's turnaround plan centers on slower delivery standards and postage hikes, changes geared to cutting costs and raising revenue but that proved unpopular with some businesses and consumers. Yet the most recent fiscal year revealed significant headwinds for the agency's plans, including inflation and a decrease in mail volume, the USPS said on Tuesday.

Some critics are pointing to DeJoy's string of postage rate hikes as the reason for the decline in volume, with a group called Keep US Posted claiming the "unprecedented postage increases" are aggravating the USPS' financial situation.

"Twice-annual, above-inflation postage hikes are worsening the USPS' financial woes and trapping it in quicksand, as even more mail is driven out of the system," Keep US Posted Executive Director Kevin Yoder, a former Congressman from Kansas, said in a statement.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Mr Hootington posted:

That isn't what the poster said at all.

Orange Devil posted:

. You're all basically becoming cops here. I get that it's to protect yourselves, but that's also what cops say when they do cop violence in their cop jobs.

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.
Maybe the post office should be run like a public service, instead of a profit center. Makes you think...

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

his entire mission is to run the usps into the ground so it gets privatized

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Ok he did fair play.

Anyway they are right.

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Beached Whale
Jun 27, 2009

The world as will and idea

HallelujahLee posted:

his entire mission is to run the usps into the ground so it gets privatized

The playbook is raising rates so people see the post office as a wasteful alternative to our lean, efficient, privately run competitors so it dies off. Then when there's no competition they can form a duopoly and cut service to rural people and jack up the price on anyone else while cutting the quality of service.

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