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Spikey Willow posted:The UK show was Insurrexion. Kat arm wrestled Terri Runnels. I vaguely remember watching because it was a rare UK PPV. Didn’t they lose their contract with Sky Sports because of that?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Didn’t they lose their contract with Sky Sports because of that? I don’t think so, they stayed on Sky forever. It was only a couple of years after that when Sky actually started putting the US PPVs on actual PPV instead of airing them for free though, which sucked. Before that only the actual UK PPVs were on PPV.
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I just read that they did lose their Sky Sports contract and that's why the Royal Rumble that year was on Channel Five. EDIT: I'm actually having trouble finding a worthwhile article, but I remember it being a big loving deal back in 1999. Pope Corky the IX fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Nov 14, 2023 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I just read that they did lose their Sky Sports contract and that's why the Royal Rumble that year was on Channel Five. We’re both partially correct https://mrwrestlingv.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/when-wwe-met-channel-4/ They never lost the contract with Sky but Sky did apparently look to offload some shows over content concerns (but didn’t seem to come to pass on that), and then when the contract was up for renewal Channel 4 bought in because of the wrestling boom and secured a couple of PPVs and Heat until they sold it all back to Sky who carried on as normal.
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Yay! We're partially correct!
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Anyone who refers to breasts as "puppies" should be strapped down and subjected to whatever quantity and intensity of electric shock is necessary to make them stop doing that.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Yay! We're partially correct! The second best kind of correct! Halloween Jack posted:Anyone who refers to breasts as "puppies" should be strapped down and subjected to whatever quantity and intensity of electric shock is necessary to make them stop doing that. Administered by Kane. Now we just need to find an animal word for testicles. I suggest "hamsters". Kane is going to electrocute your hamsters.
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Defenestrategy posted:Alright, what'd be the worst spots then? Which are either/or painful or unsafe but doesnt actually look painful Also agreed on the flatliner in general. Although I have to say the best looking flatliner IMO, suprisingly, is Baron Corbin's End Of Days. The way the victim is swung away first adds a lot to the perceived impact, and makes it visually clear who is actually supposed to be taking the move.
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I hate the Go 2 Sleep. I forget who had a much better version where it's a flip into a backbreaker instead.
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Bowens does a gnarly version where it's to the back of the other guy's head, though he hasn't used it much
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It really was the superior finisher, even if the setup is somewhat convoluted. He could easily do a pop-up variation too, I guess.
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DeathChicken posted:Bowens does a gnarly version where it's to the back of the other guy's head, though he hasn't used it much
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Halloween Jack posted:Who's that guy who does a full nelson slam onto his knee? i dunno but how bout a BIG cobra clutch?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFCcCyxD_jI
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SG Bamboo posted:G2S really needs great selling to look good, unless it's early KENTA where he's actually annihilating people Yeah, early G2S rules
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Has Punk ever hit a good-looking one?
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Minidust posted:i dunno but how bout a BIG cobra clutch?? 
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Has Punk ever hit a good-looking one? I think he hit a couple good ones while feuding with Rey, he's light enough that they usually looked vicious on him
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SG Bamboo posted:G2S really needs great selling to look good, unless it's early KENTA where he's actually annihilating people it’s this. when the person taking the bump falls forward instead of backwards it looks like death every time. takeshita did it that way in a match on dynamite, I think when hangman used it on him. I also have a strong memory of - of all people - triple H selling it like absolute death during a royal rumble
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The GTS is a move requiring an above average amount of strength and body control. Punk does not generally pass those parameters.
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So I was asking in the WCW thread about the Road Warriors. From everything I've evr heard, they made their name being big dudes who squashed folks, not having long, five star matches. Somebody said "that was just the standard at the time" and our perception of what makes a great wrestling match has changed a lot since then. I was asking Reddit about this and someone said TV wrestling back then was mostly squashes and then the big "good" matches were later. I've thought about buying some wrestling DVDs. There's lots of collections of old Texas, Memphis, etc. out there I'd like to own. (I'm sure a lot of it is on YT too but I like physical copies) But that comment has me wondering if it's worth it? If I bought Memphis Wrestling from 1980-something, would it be any good matches, or just squashes to lead up to good matches?
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The Good Matches for that era were typically saved for live shows and not television. Most promotions didn't even have PPV, the entire goal was just selling live tickets.
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NikkolasKing posted:So I was asking in the WCW thread about the Road Warriors. From everything I've evr heard, they made their name being big dudes who squashed folks, not having long, five star matches. Somebody said "that was just the standard at the time" and our perception of what makes a great wrestling match has changed a lot since then. yes and no there were bigger matches on tv but the shows were produced to get you to buy tickets to the big show. Memphis there is not much great wrestling on tv lots of great promos and some crazy angles though. If you watch the tv you will see the build but only maybe highlights of the blowoff. You should watch it though Memphis is fun tv more than its not, Become one of the few people here that actively watch 80s stuff and love it.
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Memphis put bigger matches on TV than a lot of other territories because they didn't run big cities and needed to pull out more stops to draw people. It's a lot of fun and has a faster pace/more comedy than other promotions at the time. I'd also recommend 80s Mid Atlantic for fun squashes and promos, since wrestling TV was more or less an infomercial for bigger untelevised arena shows back then. Mid Atlantic also had the largest and funniest gulf between the stars and the job guys.
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Suplex Liberace posted:yes and no there were bigger matches on tv but the shows were produced to get you to buy tickets to the big show. Memphis there is not much great wrestling on tv lots of great promos and some crazy angles though. If you watch the tv you will see the build but only maybe highlights of the blowoff. You should watch it though Memphis is fun tv more than its not, Become one of the few people here that actively watch 80s stuff and love it. Yeah, if you got something like Lawler and Gilbert it'd be more of a big angle (say, attempted vehicular homicide) that would make you want to see them finish it at the arena. That said vast chunks of Memphis TV are a lot of fun and worth watching. Even the kind of bad stuff isn't boring which puts it above some promotions.
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The thing I've learned about watching AWA and old territory shows is that even when the matches aren't "good" there's an indescribable energy that makes everything a blast to watch. And sometimes you get crazy cool wrestlers you didn't know existed. Nothing's more fun than becoming a huge fan of some territory guy that never gets the shine from modern companies.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:sometimes i just watch terry gordy mid-south squash matches where he gets bored with his opponents and goes after drunk rednecks in the crowd instead One of my favorite wrestler/fan interactions is the unhinged chain-swinging maniac Bruiser Brodie chasing legit terrified Japanese fans through the bleachers just going berserko mode
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STONE COLD 64 posted:sometimes i just watch terry gordy mid-south squash matches where he gets bored with his opponents and goes after drunk rednecks in the crowd instead you cant find the rowdy crowds like that anymore. 5 cent beer night is no more. Also gonna keep shouting out 80s AJPW tv that is on youtube in allmost complete form. Its such an easy watch and the wrestling is good!
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I loooooove 80s and 90s AJPW so much. Some of my favorite wrestling ever.
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:I loooooove 80s and 90s AJPW so much. Some of my favorite wrestling ever. i dig what dave r/ts https://twitter.com/vintagepuro/status/1707231125901324580 this is 1985 ??
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graph posted:i dig what dave r/ts Yeah Crush Gals All Japan Women were light years ahead in terms of style. It's why Terry Funk said you need to watch them back in the 80's
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:The thing I've learned about watching AWA and old territory shows is that even when the matches aren't "good" there's an indescribable energy that makes everything a blast to watch. And sometimes you get crazy cool wrestlers you didn't know existed. Nothing's more fun than becoming a huge fan of some territory guy that never gets the shine from modern companies. Yeah, I'm not a 'everything modern is bad' person by any stretch but we're just never going to hear crowds that go that sort of nuclear like Dallas at the height of the Von Erichs on Greensboro at its peak quite that way again. Or like in Mid-South where is Junkyard Dog the greatest worker ever? No. Are those matches awesome because the crowd will kill and die for him? Yes.
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah, I'm not a 'everything modern is bad' person by any stretch but we're just never going to hear crowds that go that sort of nuclear like Dallas at the height of the Von Erichs on Greensboro at its peak quite that way again. Or like in Mid-South where is Junkyard Dog the greatest worker ever? No. Are those matches awesome because the crowd will kill and die for him? Yes. That was another suggestion about why standards have changed for match quality. Back then, with kayfabe and pre-MMA, people believed big jacked up dudes like eh Road Warriors could beat up everyone. Now with kayfabe being totally dead and MMA, those larger-than-life figures no longer equal "must be the biggest badass around." But yeah, I'll def check out Memphis. I'm glad to hear it's good. cuz even from the little I've seen of him, I love Jimmy Hart and wanna see more.
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graph posted:i dig what dave r/ts Mid 80s to 90s Joshi where it was just ladies in plain-rear end swimsuits trading concussions is the best. 
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