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Vegetable posted:It obviously costs time and money to make frunks happen. Reorganize the innards, add another task to the assembly line, source for an additional component… Pretty silly to chalk it down to laziness. You just defined the word laziness.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:You just defined the word laziness.  I’m glad you want to pay more for some nebulously useful feature though.
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Nov 15, 2023 19:21
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It's not laziness it's just they don't think it is as important for getting sales to have a giant frunk. Probably not wrong, it's more of a kind of cool feature to have rather than something required. The lack of a rear wiper on the back of the ioniq 5 was by far a bigger miss imo. Also done to save costs but will have a real negative impact on customers.
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Nov 15, 2023 19:23
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Vegetable posted:It obviously costs time and money to make frunks happen. Reorganize the innards, add another task to the assembly line, source for an additional component… Pretty silly to chalk it down to laziness. Things the car manufactures have to do when designing a new vehicle: - Organize the innards. - Add tasks to the assembly line. - Source components. It's laziness.
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Nov 15, 2023 19:25
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Wayne Knight posted:All EVs should have room in the frunk for the portable EVSE in a little travel bag at minimum. 
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Nov 15, 2023 19:40
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FlapYoJacks posted:Things the car manufactures have to do when designing a new vehicle: LOL, this is worthy of a letter to the editor.
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FlapYoJacks posted:Things the car manufactures have to do when designing a new vehicle: The German makers are guilty of this, just slapping whatever they got off the shelf into their new EVs isn’t a good look.
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Nov 15, 2023 19:53
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Having a frunk is borderline incompetence because you'd be better served with just the crash structure and minimal accessory equipment then lowering and shortening the hood to improve visibility.
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Nov 15, 2023 20:42
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Engineering Explained discussed the frunk space thing, he said it's all about packaging the components efficiently enough for the space allowed. So basically any EV without a sizable frunk is just lazy. I'll be honest I'd get a Lucid Air immediately after winning the lottery. Then I'd have it turned into an itasha.
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Nov 15, 2023 21:01
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shoulda done it like BMW and not enabled the hood to open, problem solved! 
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Nov 15, 2023 21:02
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15% floor with the bolt makes me nervous If it's downhill? You'll arrive with 25% Uphill? 8-9% Not running the AC as much as possible, only when it gets cold enough to unfog the window This was how a 750 mile trip I just did yesterday went from 17h to 22h (mostly because I didn't want to go to tons of different charger brands and I got lost because some cities have roads that don't look like roads) Also because some fast chargers are 35 minutes of driving from one another. Every single EA charger location had at least one of the chargers inoperable
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Nov 15, 2023 21:32
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Every single EA charger location had at least one of the chargers inoperable  I’ve checked every single tentative charging stop on the route and all EA stops have a broken charger. The problem is once I reach Texas the chargers dry up pretty loving fast and the stops are far and few.
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priznat posted:shoulda done it like BMW and not enabled the hood to open, problem solved! Its not much harder to open the hood on an iX than it is on a normal car. Its just 2 pull straps instead of one lever and a safety catch. The kicker is there being no prop rod or gas struts to hold the now opened iX hood.
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Nov 15, 2023 23:31
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Looks like Ford wanted to poke at the cyber truck some. https://twitter.com/jimfarley98/status/1724823063143784537?t=JrEzojHNTMbuMtns8Fya4Q
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kill me now posted:Its not much harder to open the hood on an iX than it is on a normal car. Its just 2 pull straps instead of one lever and a safety catch. The kicker is there being no prop rod or gas struts to hold the now opened iX hood. Oh I thought I had heard it was not openable unless it’s in for service ie tools required.. but still not exactly usable.
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priznat posted:Oh I thought I had heard it was not openable unless it’s in for service ie tools required.. but still not exactly usable. Nope, there is a hidden pull loop on each side in the foot wells. There really isn't any good reason for your average owner to pop the hood on one though. Its just high voltage wires, 12v battery and the onboard charger in there. The windshield washer fill tube is under the BMW logo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wqlOzpQbNI
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Mercedes has a plastic flap that covers where the hood release should be. I say should be because they deleted the actual handle and left just the cable with little dingle end to spite the mechanics who need to open the hood.
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A baby step towards the world in the book Rainbows End. It's a near future sci-fi book about a guy who wakes up after being cured of Alzheimer's, though he's missing the last 20 years of memories. A lot of the book is him adjusting to the future but there's one part where he becomes frustrated because nothing can be fixed anymore, he's just relentlessly teased by everything having little labels that read "no user serviceable parts inside". At one point he manages to tear open the hood of a car only to find the same labels inside, and tearing into those components only reveals smaller components with the same labels. Sadly the book fails to foresee the rise in popularity of the frunk.
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Squibbles posted:A baby step towards the world in the book Rainbows End. It's a near future sci-fi book about a guy who wakes up after being cured of Alzheimer's, though he's missing the last 20 years of memories. A lot of the book is him adjusting to the future but there's one part where he becomes frustrated because nothing can be fixed anymore, he's just relentlessly teased by everything having little labels that read "no user serviceable parts inside". At one point he manages to tear open the hood of a car only to find the same labels inside, and tearing into those components only reveals smaller components with the same labels. This is reminiscent of going through the cargo floor of the Bolt, removing panels and massive pieces of molded polystyrene, with cutouts for various pieces of equipment that don't exist, except for a single special bolt with no labeled purpose, to finally get to a spare tire well containing only a subwoofer.
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I saw a Buzz today and holy poo poo are they way bigger than they look in pictures. I also really want one so I can get rid of my Pacifica
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Elviscat posted:This is reminiscent of going through the cargo floor of the Bolt, removing panels and massive pieces of molded polystyrene, with cutouts for various pieces of equipment that don't exist, except for a single special bolt with no labeled purpose, to finally get to a spare tire well containing only a subwoofer. That tool screws in the front or back, so they can tow your car, and the empty space in the foam is for the branded tire inflator and the travel L2 charger, warning triangle, screwdriver.  
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GreenBuckanneer posted:That tool screws in the front or back, so they can tow your car, and the empty space in the foam is for the branded tire inflator and the travel L2 charger, warning triangle, screwdriver. I jammed the L2 EVSE into the large compartment left over. A J1772 handle fits somewhat snugly into that contoured bit at the top. E: I see you already mentioned that 
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New Lucid just dropped  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuTtLwqdPk8 e: lmao the frunk bench, that kinda rules? priznat fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Nov 16, 2023 |
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It's got Minivan vibes. Which is a good thing. However I suspect it won't be as practical as a real minivan
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I think it's the slightly shortened hood, definitely does look minivan-ish. Wish they had put sliding doors in and made it a real one! But no way anyone would buy an 80k minivan.
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The ID Buzz Long might be approaching that (especially the GTX version) if it ever actually gets released
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I definitely like the look of the Buzz
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GreenBuckanneer posted:That tool screws in the front or back, so they can tow your car, and the empty space in the foam is for the branded tire inflator and the travel L2 charger, warning triangle, screwdriver. Yeah, and it looks like someone broke into your car and stole all that stuff, besides the tow bolt (which I never bothered to look up, thanks!)
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priznat posted:New Lucid just dropped Now I won't be satisfied until there's a car with an entire capsule hotel inside.
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I just read in a news article that charging locations have surpassed fuel stations in Finland. On February there were 2 368 public charging stations compared to 2 032 gas stations. 845 of those provide fast charging. Much more charging stations are still needed and many times more charging stations are needed than gas, but it's still surprising that the numbers are already that high. The association that had gathered these statistics also noted that between Q2/2022 and Q2/2023, fast charging stations increased by 101%.
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Failson posted:Now I won't be satisfied until there's a car with an entire capsule hotel inside. 
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That rules
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Saukkis posted:The association that had gathered these statistics also noted that between Q2/2022 and Q2/2023, fast charging stations increased by 101%. I wonder how fast they are getting built out in the US? I don't think it's that fast
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Energy.gov has about half again as many dcfc locations listed as it did in the summer of '22. But the Finland data includes public lvl 2 chargers so that's not really the same comparison.
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cruft posted:That's right next to where I went to college. God Dammit. I didn't get the opportunity to stop when we ferried the Outback home from AZ, as it was like 10 PM by the time we hit the area. Drove right by the VLA, and I couldn't see it in the dark.  Speaking of which, rural New Mexico is *very* dark when the sun goes down, and cell coverage is spotty, which adds up to "I hope the map that's currently stored on the phone is correct and we don't have to deviate from that route."
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Saw a Rivian SUV today. Looks really great! However it was making a lot of creaking sound while going by at about 4mph which would be pretty concerning if I had spent that kind of money on a car.
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withoutclass posted:Saw a Rivian SUV today. Looks really great! However it was making a lot of creaking sound while going by at about 4mph which would be pretty concerning if I had spent that kind of money on a car. Maybe it was the road buckling
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#vanlife
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do goons really not know what a tow bolt is for? just getting their car towed and letting the guy rip the front off like it’s a thing to do
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Tow truck guys often bring their own, although it's still good to know what a tow bolt is and where it goes on your vehicle. Same with knowing your car's jack points, which I'd guess most people also don't know
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