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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

they are welcome to keep voting themselves off the roof if they want, see how well that works.

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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
if i was in charge parliament would be held in a mobile classroom and MPs would have to pay for their dinners and if they forget to not be cunts they have to do PMQs in their pants

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
it's funny how things go full circle after long enough in this life

nearly 16 years ago, i met one Graham Linehan at a Father Ted fan event and he spent part of a talk he gave taking the piss out of Daniel O'Donnell. 2023? Well, look at the state of Linehan and look at this cool dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW4HS7VXlXk

lol idk where else to post this so here we are

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67437534

Don’t know if this has appeared on your radar down in England but it’s hilarious.

Scottish Health Secretary racks up a £11k roaming iPad bill over the Christmas holidays, due to an old SIM card. In March he offered to pay £3k by office expenses, and the rest by parliament.

More recently it turns out that the £11k was predominately spent on the 28th December and 2nd January, when there were two football matches. Celtic vs Rangers on the 2nd, and someone else on the 28th.

Now he’s said he’ll pay all £11k himself, as it turns out he used the iPad for a hotspot and his kids watched the football.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I feel sorry for him.

Think I said before bigger issue is why is there a company able to charge 11 grand to watch a couple of football games?

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Oodles posted:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-67437534

Don’t know if this has appeared on your radar down in England but it’s hilarious.

Scottish Health Secretary racks up a £11k roaming iPad bill over the Christmas holidays, due to an old SIM card. In March he offered to pay £3k by office expenses, and the rest by parliament.

More recently it turns out that the £11k was predominately spent on the 28th December and 2nd January, when there were two football matches. Celtic vs Rangers on the 2nd, and someone else on the 28th.

Now he’s said he’ll pay all £11k himself, as it turns out he used the iPad for a hotspot and his kids watched the football.

Serves him right for watching "Old Firm" games. :colbert:

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I feel sorry for him.

Think I said before bigger issue is why is there a company able to charge 11 grand to watch a couple of football games?

Brexit.

Oodles
Oct 31, 2005

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I feel sorry for him.

Think I said before bigger issue is why is there a company able to charge 11 grand to watch a couple of football games?

Data roaming. 3 gig to watch one match.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
the reengaars awnd the ceyaltuc

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

It was in Morocco!

But yes.

Oodles posted:

Data roaming. 3 gig to watch one match.

I mean I understand the technical side (lol I don't), I mean more the I dunno legislation/morality angels.

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
It wouldn't be the free market if we put controls on it!

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

What bit of “don’t spunk 11 grand of taxpayer money watching porn on your iPad when there was probably wifi available and / or a bolt on deal for £10 a day” don’t you get?

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Pork Pie Hat posted:

Relatedly, I am 100% certain I could throw Rishi Sunak over a pub.

There are some guys from Basque that could give you some throwing tips

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

smellmycheese posted:

What bit of “don’t spunk 11 grand of taxpayer money watching porn on your iPad when there was probably wifi available and / or a bolt on deal for £10 a day” don’t you get?

Are you talking to me?

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Brendan Rodgers posted:

There are some guys from Basque that could give you some throwing tips

By which of course I mean the traditional Basque sport Lasto botatzea (bale tossing).

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Are you talking to me?

Maybe

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

I don't see anyone else here

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I don't see anyone else here

You starting?

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
RICKY LEAVE ITTTT

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

This came up years ago. (Like literally about 2005-2007.)

Basically, a guy was on holiday in France. He torrented an episode of Lost (yes back in those days.)
Next thing you know, he has a bill for like €30,000.

But the question really is how. Not how did the customer do it.
But how does a company even quantify that ammount.

Like this isn't a situation where 30K worth of raw materials were spent. Or you needed Like eight engineers spending hours working a server farm to fix this.
Or even you crush a bunch if diamonds to dust and cast Resurrection.

This is a tech company going "oh we used up so many 1's and 0's getting you that video. Have a life ruining bill."

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Jakabite posted:

RICKY LEAVE ITTTT

:lmao:

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Oodles posted:

Data roaming. 3 gig to watch one match.

Also depends on what stream they were using.
If its one of those illegal streams from the rear end end of Brazil, then its unlikely they care about streaming quality over quantity.
So you could end up getting near uncompressed feed, wracking up the GB in no time.

Back when Twitch was called Justin.tv, I used to watch MST3K on it. Full hour and a half episodes.
Left it on one night and burned through our 300gb of MONTHLY allowance back then. Had to pay to expand the cap just so we could use it for the rest of the month.

And if its Roaming, then thats another layer of gently caress you pay me for your bits.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


The Question IRL posted:

This came up years ago. (Like literally about 2005-2007.)

Basically, a guy was on holiday in France. He torrented an episode of Lost (yes back in those days.)
Next thing you know, he has a bill for like €30,000.

But the question really is how. Not how did the customer do it.
But how does a company even quantify that ammount.

Like this isn't a situation where 30K worth of raw materials were spent. Or you needed Like eight engineers spending hours working a server farm to fix this.
Or even you crush a bunch if diamonds to dust and cast Resurrection.

This is a tech company going "oh we used up so many 1's and 0's getting you that video. Have a life ruining bill."

It's based on a contract between the phone providers, but ultimately it's "because they can". As I mentioned earlier there's also an element of "let's rinse the rich western businessmen" in places.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Thank God I've got starnet

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


That data bill is still probably more fair than back when SMS used to be chargeable.

Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011
Sure, sure his “kid” was watching “football”.

I think we all know what’s really going on here

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

Pork Pie Hat posted:

Sure, sure his “kid” was watching “football”.

I think we all know what’s really going on here



Still one of the best photos.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Jippa posted:

Still one of the best photos.

Still widely used as a meme for all sorts of things. That poor old sod could never have know the fame one quick tug to babestation would bring him

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

ThomasPaine posted:

My not entirely serious hot take is that we should have sports divisions that are 100% cool with doping and everybody's allowed to take whatever the hell they want. I want to really see what insane heights the human body can achieve when it is freed of all restraints.

Yes, I know this would be a terrible idea.

It's all fun and games until the far future when you bet your planet on your roided up football team vs the enemy's genetically modified transhuman shock infantry.

Battletech - Three Points of Pride

happyhippy posted:

Also depends on what stream they were using.
If its one of those illegal streams from the rear end end of Brazil, then its unlikely they care about streaming quality over quantity.
So you could end up getting near uncompressed feed, wracking up the GB in no time.

Back when Twitch was called Justin.tv, I used to watch MST3K on it. Full hour and a half episodes.
Left it on one night and burned through our 300gb of MONTHLY allowance back then. Had to pay to expand the cap just so we could use it for the rest of the month.

And if its Roaming, then thats another layer of gently caress you pay me for your bits.

Still amazed at how they hit 11k though, even on data roaming it is still just 5G network. Roaming charges are high but even at £6 per GB that would be 2TB of download in 2 days which sounds insane. Is that 8K streaming?

Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

Z the IVth posted:

It's all fun and games until the far future when you bet your planet on your roided up football team vs the enemy's genetically modified transhuman shock infantry.

Battletech - Three Points of Pride

Still amazed at how they hit 11k though, even on data roaming it is still just 5G network. Roaming charges are high but even at £6 per GB that would be 2TB of download in 2 days which sounds insane. Is that 8K streaming?

Think it's more like £6 per mb not gb.

https://www.three.co.uk/Support/Roaming_and_international/Mobile_roaming?content_aid=1214306361761

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Sad Panda
Sep 22, 2004

I'm a Sad Panda.

So some kind of maybe 500mb a day free then expensive after by the looks of it.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Video is pretty big in general, it's not hard to hit those numbers at all even through very occasional use if you do streaming.

VVVV
It's usually published by your provider somewhere, but again, it's based on mutual treaties between providers so they might not have much of a choice.

If they want to have roaming at all they have to pay whatever the local provider asks (and then add some on top probably).

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Nov 16, 2023

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i still just cant comprehend how we dont find out who these people are and rock up and take all their stuff.

you can't just charge someone 20 quid for 500mb, which should mean 5000mb is 200quid, then charge over 7grand for 3000mb.

Its bullshit.

all without telling them.

like we should all, everybody in the world go and wrack up these charges to bankrupt the world economy so we can start again.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Morocco does seem pricy to be fair. Here’s the rates on 02

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.




Yeah that should be illegal.

No sympathy for the prick trying to get the taxpayers to pay the bill but a regular person could easily be ruined by that.

Providing that data probably cost pennies, if that.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Private Speech posted:

Video is pretty big in general, it's not hard to hit those numbers at all even through very occasional use if you do streaming.

VVVV

It's usually published by your provider, but again, it's based on mutual treaties between providers so they might not have much of a choice.

I estimate video (including things like zoom calls etc) at 1GB per hour. I'm sure ultra high is quite a bit more than that, maybe 2GB an hour, I know something I looked at over the last couple of months was.
Why don't people get local data sims when they're abroad if they're going to a country without some deal with their UK supplier? A lot of airports have telecoms booths one you get through baggage/customs into arrival halls.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


stev posted:

Yeah that should be illegal.

No sympathy for the prick trying to get the taxpayers to pay the bill but a regular person could easily be ruined by that.

Providing that data probably cost pennies, if that.

As I said it's mostly the local providers who decide how much to charge, among friendly countries you might have negligible costs but large parts of the world it's not really O2 or Three or whoever who gets to decide how much they charge.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
on top of it just being indecent to charge that kind of money the wild jump in billing should have resulted in a bunch of notifications after the first day. ideally that would disable data unless you reply with some understanding but i mean lol

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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

quote:

Benefit claimants not seeking work to face mandatory work placements

Benefit claimants who fail to find work for more than 18 months will have to undertake work experience placements, under rules planned for late next year.

If they refuse they will lose access to their benefits for a period, the government says

...

It is part of new plans to get people back to work, which will also see an extra £2.5bn spent on career support.

...

Chancellor Jeremy Hunt said that many of these people wanted to work and that "with almost a million vacancies in the jobs market the opportunities are there".

"These changes mean there's help and support for everyone [to find work] - but for those who refuse it, there are consequences too," he added.

"Anyone choosing to coast on the hard work of taxpayers will lose their benefits."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67439675

i knew this shite would ramp up again once they'd forgotten about europe :negative:

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