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Fell Mood posted:In star trek, the warp drive works by moving the space/reality around the ship, the ship itself isn't actually moving thru space, instead the bubble of reality the ship is in slips thru the surrounding reality. I'm not sure what would happen if a ship warped into a planet, but it would not be like a physical object hitting the planet at light speed, because the ship itself is not moving thru space, the space itself is moving. I think that metaphor is slightly wrong but has the same answer effectively, because if something disrupts the warp field it just stops/appears there with no momentum so I'm not sure you even COULD warp into a planet
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Animal-Mother posted:They could've used this take and nobody at UPN would have noticed or complained. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL2EoPJ0whw
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The dumbest thing about warp is when a ship is chasing another and the front one drops out of warp and the chasing one, half a minute later does the same in the same place. At high warp, the chasing ship would be lightyears ahead in seconds and would have had to stop and turn back.
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Nov 16, 2023 17:57
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John Wick of Dogs posted:It was just aerosolized Kanar. Disgusting Damar moves to the Kanar planet, turns it into a giant vineyard.  https://www.sanluisobispo.com/living/food-drink/article39496065.html
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Nov 16, 2023 19:15
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Also no, "moving the universe around the ship instead of the ship moving" isn't how the technical manual describes it. I'll take a picture of it when I get home but there's definitely velocity happening when they're going into warp.
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Nov 16, 2023 19:19
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I love how Geordi balks at this initially before eventually realizing he’s the chief engineer of a ship with a universal constant violation engine lol
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Nov 16, 2023 19:47
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i thought that warp drives worked by changing the laws of physics in a bubble around the ship so that a higher velocity is possible.
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Nov 16, 2023 19:54
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warp drives work by making the ships arms go like fweee and the ship zips off in the direction of plot at a speed also directed by the plot
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Nov 16, 2023 20:04
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Warp drive works because the script says that warp drive works.
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Nov 16, 2023 20:23
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Endless Trash posted:I love how Geordi balks at this initially before eventually realizing he’s the chief engineer of a ship with a universal constant violation engine lol And a Heisenberg Compensator 
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Nov 16, 2023 20:24
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Don't forget inertial dampeners
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Nov 16, 2023 20:26
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CainFortea posted:"moving the universe around the ship instead of the ship moving" I thought that only applied to Futurama.
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Nov 16, 2023 20:29
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skooma512 posted:And a Heisenberg Compensator 
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Nov 16, 2023 20:42
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blatman posted:warp drives work by making the ships arms go like fweee and the ship zips off in the direction of plot at a speed also directed by the plot nine-gear crow posted:Warp drive works because the script says that warp drive works. Let's not discount the FX artists!
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Nov 16, 2023 21:12
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i thought that warp drives worked by changing the laws of physics in a bubble around the ship so that a higher velocity is possible. That's part of it. This is also why the ship's main computer is so fast. It's in a subspace bubble so the speed of light is faster, so brain thunk faster. But the other part is why the warp coils in the nacelles activate in a sequence from front to back. By generating warpfields asymetrically the fields push against one, propelling the ship forward.
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Imagine four warp fields on the edge of a gravity well. The warp drive works the same way. ChairmanMauzer fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Nov 16, 2023 |
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Nov 16, 2023 21:53
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CainFortea posted:That's part of it. This is also why the ship's main computer is so fast. It's in a subspace bubble so the speed of light is faster, so brain thunk faster.
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Flipswitch posted:You can warp front to back but not back to front, majels got a hell of an infection Lmao
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Warp drive's been more than a little inconsistent over the years. In nuTrek their current science advisor interpretation is that it's pretty much an alcubierre drive with some imaginary subspace mechanics to help it work, which is really easiest to reconcile.
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There's also the subspace damage warp drives were found to do during TNG, resulting in Voyager's variable warp geometry, and now nobody really gives a poo poo anymore.
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Nov 16, 2023 23:51
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Has anyone tried to raise the efficiency of [insert part] by .01% ?
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Grey Cat posted:Has anyone tried to raise the efficiency of [insert part] by .01% ? Rutherford did this last month but the entire crew got migraines even though we managed to stay stable at warp 9.999999 for 5 minutes
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alexandriao posted:Rutherford did this last month but the entire crew got migraines even though we managed to stay stable at warp 9.999999 for 5 minutes The price to pay for knowledge, carry on, cyborg man.
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CYBOMAN! NOOOOOO!
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If the X-Men/Star Trek comics are to be believed warp travel takes a shortcut through hell
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The spore drive makes more sense, there's a network all over already. If something is everywhere and you get in it, then changing your position to anywhere is trivial, just hook a special guy into the ship.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:If the X-Men/Star Trek comics are to be believed warp travel takes a shortcut through hell That's literally Event Horizon and also basically 40k
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Khanstant posted:The spore drive makes more sense More insane words have never been posted.
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Flipswitch posted:You can warp front to back but not back to front, majels got a hell of an infection Warp Factor "Freaky Deaky, Dude"
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I have no real complaints about sporespace as a concept for a mode of travel. It's the instantaneousness of it.
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maybeadracula posted:That's literally Event Horizon and also basically 40k I like the 'event horizon is a 40k prequel' theory.
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Animal-Mother posted:Damar moves to the Kanar planet, turns it into a giant vineyard. 
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The General posted:I have no real complaints about sporespace as a concept for a mode of travel. It's the instantaneousness of it. Yeah that's my real issue with it. Conceptually I like it, it's Trekky, and they've never explored space lifeform ecosystems despite repeatedly encountering such things. But making it just be super warp drive is about the worst way to go. Plenty of ways to take the base concept, even make it a competitive mode of travel with its own tradeoffs or needs. Maybe it only transports organic material and they have to find some way to make themselves bioships or pods, maybe it only goes to specific places where the space ecosystem can thrive, or perhaps it's a great travel method but really upsets the ecosystem which makes ot unreliable or causes harm to lifeforms of they just use it to dash around for a dog fight or whatever frivolous excess usage. Idk easy to spit all anything that isn't just "instant OP teleport for free," that breaks the setting and they never knew how to deal with it even once pooted into the future.
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Remember also that if the galaxy-sized instant-travel mushroom is damaged it will end all life everywhere!!
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Also the only way to traverse mushroom space is by torture
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CainFortea posted:Also the only way to traverse mushroom space is by torture It's an allegory for what the audience experiences as they watch the show
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The General posted:I have no real complaints about sporespace as a concept for a mode of travel. It's the instantaneousness of it. Excuse me senator, but are you saying instantaneous travel is the problem for you with the spore drive? Even in the face of whistleblowers claiming generic alteration and permanent damage to the spore-pilot?
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I always thought that they should make more of a deal about the Iconians. Surely they were not the only ones who might have developed jump gates as a warp alternative?
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I mean the only existing remnant of the iconian gateway was utterly decimated. The iconians ruled an interstellar empire but likely from a single position (Why would you give the ability to open gateways to those that you rule?), so ofc the Federation was researching it but they never really got very far for whatever reason.
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