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Marching Powder posted:....... just unarmed? future fencing champion??
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feels like a good time to post this to read again: https://archive.ph/yvvKB
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Nov 9, 2023 08:11
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Declan MacManus posted:future fencing champion?? genuinely hilarious that a guy is banned from white power slap but not from swords or the body bag 3000 with night vision scope or whatever. why settle for a kerfuffle when we can have a nice, clean killing.
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Nov 9, 2023 08:27
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Don't think he's banned for being dangerous, seems like he might be suspended for his own safety. He's got 16 losses and 13 of those are by (T)KO.
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Nov 9, 2023 09:52
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Freudian slippers posted:Don't think he's banned for being dangerous, seems like he might be suspended for his own safety. He's got 16 losses and 13 of those are by (T)KO. this.... doesn't quite ease my concerns about arming him lol 'holy poo poo my man one more good one to the head and that could literally be it for you. here's an ak'
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Nov 9, 2023 12:00
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Marching Powder posted:this.... doesn't quite ease my concerns about arming him lol 'holy poo poo my man one more good one to the head and that could literally be it for you. here's an ak' It's ok, he can still do HEMA and get bonked in his helmet with a warhammer
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Nov 9, 2023 13:57
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:feels like a good time to post this to read again: drat, that was good, I didn't realize a 90's era sleazy boxing manager ended up an eloquent and apparently accomplished writer. Has anyone read his book, lowlife?
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Nov 9, 2023 15:15
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Quizzlefish posted:Louis Theroux interviews Anthony Joshua came out last night. It's on BBC. It's hella hosed up and not boxing related but his documentary where he interviews people who worked with Jimmy Savile after all the revelations came out and how they just choose to not believe any of it and have like shrines to him still is a fantastic watch.
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Nov 9, 2023 18:41
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Jack B Nimble posted:drat, that was good, I didn't realize a 90's era sleazy boxing manager ended up an eloquent and apparently accomplished writer. Has anyone read his book, lowlife? Yeah I think about that article all the time. I bought his book but haven't read it yet. Here's an excerpt if you have Defector: https://defector.com/my-friend-is-here-to-see-the-girls
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Nov 9, 2023 20:50
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Jack B Nimble posted:drat, that was good, I didn't realize a 90's era sleazy boxing manager ended up an eloquent and apparently accomplished writer. Has anyone read his book, lowlife? Woah that was a good read.
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Nov 10, 2023 01:01
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Yeah I think about that article all the time. I bought his book but haven't read it yet. Here's an excerpt if you have Defector: i would read this book
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Nov 10, 2023 01:02
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i read the book, the dude is also an accomplished jazz pianist, there's some wild poo poo in there
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Nov 10, 2023 04:11
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It’ll be interesting how much of the McNeeley treatment Jake Paul does if he continues to fight real boxers. With how much of a draw he can be, I would not be shocked if he fights a bunch of fixed matches all the way into the top whatever of a weight class. I don’t know if he’ll ever fight a for real guy in his own weight class in a for real fight, but he might be able to get some fairly big names to lie down for him if the money’s right.
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Nov 10, 2023 23:53
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:It’ll be interesting how much of the McNeeley treatment Jake Paul does if he continues to fight real boxers. With how much of a draw he can be, I would not be shocked if he fights a bunch of fixed matches all the way into the top whatever of a weight class. I don’t know if he’ll ever fight a for real guy in his own weight class in a for real fight, but he might be able to get some fairly big names to lie down for him if the money’s right. i agree, he absolutely could, but fighting this can makes me think he wants to seriously do this. unless he's the type of guy to let his managers completely run his life and career i'm thinking he's doing this for real.
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Nov 11, 2023 00:04
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Marching Powder posted:i agree, he absolutely could, but fighting this can makes me think he wants to seriously do this. unless he's the type of guy to let his managers completely run his life and career i'm thinking he's doing this for real. if he’s doing it for real then I would imagine his most lucrative long term fight is Canelo lol. Which means he’ll need someone relatively serious to take a dive at some point maybe. Maybe like, I dunno as much about the current boxing scene, Badou Jack in 2-3 years when he’s 43 or something. Someone takes a dove for big money, it makes the Canelo fight more marketable, and Canelo easily beats him in a huge event. But they might not even need to get a top ranked guy. Maybe they’ll just do the fight. I think it sells better if they can get some guys to lay down though first.
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Nov 11, 2023 00:29
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The big issue with a Jake vs Canelo fight is that a lot of boxing's revenue comes from gambler interest and there would be very little for interested gamblers to bet on in that match. You can maybe trick casual fans with a setup fight into thinking the match will be competitive, but it would have to be a hell of a setup. I don't think Jake is fighting for money really. He was self made before he laced up. He doesn't need to work hard to land a big name fight, his survival doesn't depend on it. I genuinely believe he boxes because he gets personal satisfaction from it, he's fighting a real boxer because he's proud of his skills and wants to keep developing. I've said this before but I'm a Jake fan and view him as a great thing for the sport at large. His career has already moved beyond the realm of a gimmick, and I think it's great to see him putting himself in fights that won't be big spectacles, when if he wanted he could just quit or keep making exhibition type matches against other YouTubers and retired MMA guys.
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Nov 13, 2023 00:30
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Yeah, I think Jake does genuinely want to see how far his skills will take him and that’s honestly a good thing to see. He might never become a contender, but he might still have a decent career as a big name for better prospects to get work in with. And if he winds up becoming good enough to contend then awesome, good for him, he’s earned it.
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Nov 13, 2023 00:46
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Rags to Liches posted:he’s earned it. little bit. bought the rest. the cans he's knocking down have 9-5s, the decent pros hovering around the top ten might eke out meager existences just doing boxing. he's a loving millionaire paying for the best everything. and he's going to knock out some geezer trying to make a buck and raise his arms after. gently caress that.
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Nov 13, 2023 01:38
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Meh. I think that kind of moral argument goes out the window as soon as you accept yourself as a financial supporter of combat sports. Like I could argue, those old guys are gonna fight for money regardless and better they get paid against Jake in front of a television audience. And just by competing in the sport of boxing, millionaires like Jake raise awareness and interest in the sport, which brings more financial support to shows headlined by the guys you are describing. I think that is besides the point though. Guys in boxing "earn" their spots by marketing themselves effectively and performing well in front of audiences. Jake is great at both those aspects. Those club guys may not have had the media connections Jake had, the training facilities and coaching team he enjoys, or the built-in support Jake got from crossing over as an entertainer in a different medium. But they can still get in front of a television audience if they sign to fight him, they can maybe beat him up too and take some of his audience away.
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Nov 13, 2023 01:51
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yeah i'd like to think that jake will share his fame and fortune with the working class people he's knocking out for a pittance too and all the small guys will be better off for it.
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Nov 13, 2023 01:58
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Who said anything about sharing? In boxing you take your fame and fortune from someone else. Anyone fighting Jake has a chance at taking attention away from him, either they can do that or they can't. If being on TV and doing well against (or beating) a big celebrity doesn't do things for their careers then nothing will.
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Nov 13, 2023 02:04
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hey, guy working in a factory / millionaire with the best steroids, trainers, money, and time, here's your big rocky chance, ya just gotta go out there and take it! like a man!
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Nov 13, 2023 02:20
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In an ideal world people wouldn't have to fight professionally for money and the people who do were paid like tech workers and WNBA stars, but also ideally boxing wouldn't cause brain damage and all wounds would heal overnight. We don't live in an ideal world though, and I'm not sure how it would be better if your 10-1-1 record factory worker is offered $10k for a co-feature spot at the local casino instead of presumably more money as the main event opponent in front of a television audience. I don't really see how that's Jake Paul's fault or problem, he is doing the same thing all well promoted boxers with some public notice do: they fight opponents with just enough experience to be challenging but beatable to prepare themselves for opponents with more experience that aren't as easy to beat. Maybe Jake is worse because he chooses to do this for reasons other than survival, but everyone that boxes has made the choice to hurt other people for money over doing something else. You and I as boxing fans chose to pay them to do it.
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Nov 13, 2023 03:04
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The Ninth Layer posted:The big issue with a Jake vs Canelo fight is that a lot of boxing's revenue comes from gambler interest and there would be very little for interested gamblers to bet on in that match. You can maybe trick casual fans with a setup fight into thinking the match will be competitive, but it would have to be a hell of a setup. yeah I have nothing against Jake. but my theory is that he could get a few dive wins and then have a top 15ish guy take a dive and then get like 2 million ppv buys and a crazy gate against Canelo. Canelo will be 36 in a few years and at the point where he might like a big easy fight instead of a young killer coming up
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:yeah I have nothing against Jake. I have plenty of reasons to hate him and only some of them are fight related. I would agree that he's taking it much more seriously than his other money making ventures.
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Nov 13, 2023 04:57
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i actually respect jake for the same reasons i respect any man who gets in the ring and puts it all on the line for real. my problem is the concept of a contest. this feels like white power slap to me. whoever loses the coinflip gets knocked out. and i don't like that he's fighting a day labourer as a roided up millionaire who wants to do something in his life that other adults will respect.
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Nov 13, 2023 05:07
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Wait was there a contest? If Jake Paul picked this guy to fight by lottery that would definitely change my feelings about it.
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The problem child is a stupid nickname
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I don’t think Jake doing this is that different than a big babe boxing prospect getting matched up with some random can to pad out their record early in their career. Yeah, it’s a working man’s sport at a lot of levels but young, talented prospects fresh from an Olympic program are always getting picked up by big name promoters and getting matched up against some random Argentinian guy who can barely keep his arms up for some off broadcast first round TKO. It’s a sport that is built off this type of violence. I’m sure this guy is going to get a bigger paycheque fighting Jake Paul then he was going to get on club cards fighting other guys with day jobs. I’m also sure that as long as they have passion for the sport, even hobbyist boxers wouldn’t see the opportunity to fight Jake Paul in a main event as one where they’re victimized. I don’t like Jake Paul at all. I think he’s a scumbag for a bunch of different reasons, but the sport is full of people who are like him. And gently caress it, as a promoter he’s gotten some good cheques and shows for his fighters like Shadasia Green and Amanda Serrano. So like, even as far as spreading the money around he’s been pretty good there too.
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Nov 14, 2023 02:33
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i wonder who the jake paul analog will be in Creed 4
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STONE COLD 64 posted:i wonder who the jake paul analog will be in Creed 4 this is going to happen isn't it.
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Nov 14, 2023 05:13
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Jeff Peter played by Logan Paul
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STONE COLD 64 posted:i wonder who the jake paul analog will be in Creed 4 it’ll be just Jake Paul if they’re smart
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:it’ll be just Jake Paul if they’re smart lol
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Joshua v Wallin Parker v Wilder announced, December 23rd in Riyadh! This card was always going to fall short of the original rumours that had AJ/Wilder and Fury/Usyk, I'll still watch but ffs we've been waiting half a decade on a matchup and now they fight different dudes on the same night in the same venue? Boxing lol.
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parker/wilder should be good joshua/wallin is whatever
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Declan MacManus posted:joshua is whatever
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watching the formula one fight
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Navarrete/Conceicao has been entertaining as hell
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Paracaidas posted:Navarrete/Conceicao has been entertaining as hell Yeah holy poo poo, Conceicao is tough as gently caress. edit: what a loving fight Rags to Liches fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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