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Well they're going to get a baseball team, but not until 2028. And by then who knows if there will be enough water to sustain LV.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Well they're going to get a baseball team, but not until 2028. And by then who knows if there will be enough water to sustain LV. There probably will be. Vegas is incredibly water efficient
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je1 healthcare posted:Ads in prior decades used to be about the products themselves, commercials were more often just bullet point lists of the product's features and innovations. This isn't new, it's literally what advertising has been for over a century. Large parts of what are seen as culture and tradition like pink for girls, blue for boys, and wedding rings, are literally inventions of marketing campaigns.
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Nov 17, 2023 06:30
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Look at old cigarette ads too. Those sold a lifestyle.
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je1 healthcare posted:Ads in prior decades used to be about the products themselves, commercials were more often just bullet point lists of the product's features and innovations. 
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Nov 17, 2023 06:49
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I legitimately want Grape-Nuts now.
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Not the same. That Grape Nuts ad is still focused on the putative effects of the product on a man rather than making a primal, emotional association between Grape Nuts and being a man. It is selling and commodifying an enhancement to a particular manly attribute that is supposedly bestowed by cereal, not manhood itself. The man exists before Grape Nuts, the man does not exist before the gun in the infamous "man card" assault rifle ad. You use the old timey cereal, you are the school shooting implement. Modern advertising steals your very being as primitive accumulation and then makes you rent it from them. E: with manhood specifically I think gendered advertising is one of the principal drivers of manosphere ideology, toxic masculinity, and the crisis of men and boys. The idea that one could be a man as a simple fact has become impossible, manhood is an alienated commodity that must be leased from brands. Male youth yearn for some figure like  to tell them how to man because they can't just be one in a society where manhood is a scarce and expensive commodity that can't even be bought entire but must be paid for in continual installments forever.
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see also: old Video game adds.
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Zugzwang posted:I legitimately want Grape-Nuts now. Holy catfish, me too. I am absolutely going to go buy some. Marketing talk, if you haven't seen the documentary Century of the Self, it's pretty great. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s&pp=ygUTY2VudHVyeSBvZiB0aGUgc2VsZg%3D%3D And as a horrible attempt to keep this even slightly topical, I am disappointed that there aren't MORE companies circling the drain. So many of them deserve to die off.
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Woolie Wool posted:Not the same. That Grape Nuts ad is still focused on the putative effects of the product on a man rather than making a primal, emotional association between Grape Nuts and being a man. It is selling and commodifying an enhancement to a particular manly attribute that is supposedly bestowed by cereal, not manhood itself. The man exists before Grape Nuts, the man does not exist before the gun in the infamous "man card" assault rifle ad. You use the old timey cereal, you are the school shooting implement. Modern advertising steals your very being as primitive accumulation and then makes you rent it from them. How do you figure? To me that grape nuts ad is pretty clearly doing what you were talking about before: creating a gap between the viewer and the ideal self and then creating an anxiety to be mitigated by the product. In this case: An ideal man is active, progressive, successful, and he has steady nerves and a keen, clear brain. Does this describe you, man reading this? Not sure? You should buy some Grape Nuts.
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Modern advertisements manipulate the viewer by creating a vision of the ideal self and then creating anxiety in the viewer about the gap between themselves and the newly constructed ideal self which then makes them want to do something they would not have wanted to do before. For example, an advertisement may create a vision of an ideal version of the viewer who is not John Romero's bitch in order to make them more likely to suck it down.
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Anora posted:see also: old Video game adds. 
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The whole boomer idea of America makes so much sense figuring it was constructed literally out of advertising campaigns. The nuclear family in the suburban home, white weddings with rings and dresses, Christmas with the big fancy tree and piles of presents, Happy Days and all that poo poo. You can probably see the same thing going on back with the goddamn Victorians, where there's an extremely firm idea of what an 'ideal' man, woman and child look like and often brutal societal enforcement to conform to it, advertising both taking advantage of and perpetuating it to emphasise that identity must be maintained through continual purchases of the correct products. The right clothes, the right food, the right drugs, the right hobbies and interests. If anything it's fallen apart a lot nowadays in the social media age as identities and interests have scattered, come to light and diversified too much for marketing brains to keep up with, and nowadays you end up with corporations practically throwing tantrums when people want products they don't want to make.
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where'd that guy get a grandson to bequeath poo poo to when he's never made a friend or kissed a girl because he was too busy gaming? plot holes in the advertising for shame
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InediblePenguin posted:where'd that guy get a grandson to bequeath poo poo to when he's never made a friend or kissed a girl because he was too busy gaming? plot holes in the advertising for shame He happened to like hookers, okay?
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InediblePenguin posted:where'd that guy get a grandson to bequeath poo poo to when he's never made a friend or kissed a girl because he was too busy gaming? plot holes in the advertising for shame *remembering that one Rip Van Winkle cartoon where he wakes up and has a kid* life, uh, life finds a way
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He probably just released the nut before he fell into that time hole.
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When you Grape Nut but she still givin you (keen, clear) brain
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Baller Ina posted:*remembering that one Rip Van Winkle cartoon where he wakes up and has a kid* life, uh, life finds a way The IDF collected his sperm.
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je1 healthcare posted:Identity-based marketing operates by creating a gap between viewer and an ideal self, creating an anxiety that can only be mitigated by the product. As people become more socially isolated and devote more of their time to traditional media and social media, the authority on identity shifts from people in our personal lives and onto that media. Even if people can 100% believe that they've broken free from society's arbitrary expectations, they will still seek out some other entity to define labels and say who is and isn't a real XYZ. Except those entities will do it to sell something. Or drive engagement. Society can be cruel to certain people, but what about an industry who's survival depends on you never reaching your ideal self? Youth suicide rates have skyrocketed over the past 15 years in a way that can't be tied to worsening living conditions, or declining access to mental health resources  https://ranprojects.net/tell/anti-brand-remover-installer-a-third-of-a-century-old/ doctorfrog has a new favorite as of 18:42 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Advertisers tend to selfmythologize about how influential they are. The classic myth being 'coke ads invented modern santa' which is blatantly false but is an effective piece of metaadvertising.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:This isn't new, it's literally what advertising has been for over a century. Large parts of what are seen as culture and tradition like pink for girls, blue for boys, and wedding rings, are literally inventions of marketing campaigns. Yes, but it was previously exclusive to fashion and beauty products, or things which have no tangible features that can be conveyed in advertising. Gender roles existed for millenia, but when feminism took off in the west the fashion/beauty industry pivoted real hard to marketing those things as something women bought for themselves as opposed to winning the approval of men or society Woolie Wool posted:E: with manhood specifically I think gendered advertising is one of the principal drivers of manosphere ideology, toxic masculinity, and the crisis of men and boys. The idea that one could be a man as a simple fact has become impossible, manhood is an alienated commodity that must be leased from brands. Male youth yearn for some figure like Toxic masculinity, or male chauvanism, or whatever you want to call it has also been around for all of civilization. The audience for that manosphere stuff isn't even looking for advice, just confirmation of the things they want to believe. The audience wants to believe that society is cockblocking them, that the reason they can't get laid every night or be a selfish wonderful jerk is because of HR complaints and the PC gestapo that stipulates that cis men should act passive, docile, empathetic, and apologetic. That they must act like.....women. Meanwhile, they see women/minorities/LBGTQ folk acting openly sexual, charismatic, proud, self-centered or violent in the media and are told by the manosphere that this is a privilege for anyone besides white straight men (Note- this is obviously not reality, but it's still their perception) To be clear, marketers sell more identities than just gender roles, but that's the most obvious example of it. Sometimes they sell anti-identities! As if a product can define who you are not. If old people, squares, liberals, or bigots are offended by this product then it must be doing something right, spending your money has the added value of offending people you already hate je1 healthcare has a new favorite as of 14:26 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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But what if I don't want to spend any money for emotional reasons or for unending satisfaction of appetite?
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Xlorp posted:But what if I don't want to spend any money for emotional reasons or for unending satisfaction of appetite? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjw_DuNkOUw
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Xlorp posted:But what if I don't want to spend any money for emotional reasons or for unending satisfaction of appetite? You go directly to jail.
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https://x.com/agoldmund/status/1732033791273635950?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw Spotify is cancelling a lot of podcasts, while larger celebrity ones didn’t pan out as expected.
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bobjr posted:https://x.com/agoldmund/status/1732033791273635950?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw Shock, gasp. You mean the app that I use specifically to stream music wasn't embraced by people looking for podcasts, a form of media similar only in that it's audio focused?
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MarcusSA posted:There probably will be. Vegas is incredibly water efficient 70% of water in places with water crises like arizona and california goes to agriculture. If you just don't grow food its v easy to have enough water
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I always found Spotify's app to be a crappy podcast player that didn't sync well between devices, and none of the shows I listen to are exclusive to them, so 
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:70% of water in places with water crises like arizona and california goes to agriculture. If you just don't grow food its v easy to have enough water You don't understand scale
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bobjr posted:https://x.com/agoldmund/status/1732033791273635950?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw The celebrity podcast deals always smelled funny. Not sure if the money was guaranteed or if they had to produce X amount of product, but it never seemed to make business sense. Maybe Spotify thought buying up rights to a bunch of high profile people kept competitors from getting exclusives, but I'm not sure if there are competitors for a Prince Harry podcast.
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I stopped listening to podcasts once they went to Spotify. Not that I didn't like the podcasts, and not that I don't like Spotify, I just don't use that app for podcasts and it's kind of a hassle to use it for the two podcasts that aren't on the other app where all other podcasts are.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:70% of water in places with water crises like arizona and california goes to agriculture. If you just don't grow food its v easy to have enough water Or watering golf courses in the loving desert
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Coasterphreak posted:Or watering golf courses in the loving desert Eh it’s not that big of a deal really. Vegas recycles a gently caress load of water. https://youtu.be/4U1TkIdDbRA?si=8JNZiUTIzfAaKV70 If anyone really cares that video goes into a lot of detail about how Vegas actually does things. It’s incredibly interesting.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:70% of water in places with water crises like arizona and california goes to agriculture. If you just don't grow food its v easy to have enough water A lot easier if you don't try to grow loving rice and almonds in the desert.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A lot easier if you don't try to grow loving rice and almonds in the desert. SMH rice and almonds and grown in semi‐arid grasslands. The desert is for growing cotton.
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See Benin
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