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xtothez posted:Spoiler tagged for anyone watching the preview tonight: Ya, alright, I'll buy your damned tactical dreadnought armour miniatures of the Dark Angel variety, GW.
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If I was going to pick a space marine chapter it would be Crimson Fists, because I like the Ultarmarines color scheme, but I don't want to come off as too vanilla. Oddly enough they're a successor to the imperial fists though, hah.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 17:42 |
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My CSM warband is a custom one, but I've also been building up some regular original 9 legions squads to accompany them. I don't collect loyalist SMs outside of a few models for Wrath and Glory, but they're all part of the Iron Champions which I think is the best of both worlds for "this is a real chapter," and "but there is less than 1 paragraph of fluff on them so do whatever."
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 18:02 |
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Lostconfused posted:If I was going to pick a space marine chapter it would be Crimson Fists, because I like the Ultarmarines color scheme, but I don't want to come off as too vanilla. If I were ever to play loyalists I would probably do Crimson Fists; as a hispanic person I appreciate the representation and I hope their old special characters make a comeback
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 18:18 |
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rantmo posted:I'm doing a custom Blood Angels successor chapter that was a reluctant Second Founding chapter so they didn't move too far away from Baal and kept ties with the Blood Angels so that I can justify using the Epic Heroes without having to pretend they're the Thomas Rikers of Dante or Mephiston or whoever. yeah but it's an opportunity to do your own takes on them. dracula mephiston. bloodweiser mascot corbulo. fat cherub sanguinor. Nazzadan posted:My CSM warband is a custom one, but I've also been building up some regular original 9 legions squads to accompany them. I don't collect loyalist SMs outside of a few models for Wrath and Glory, but they're all part of the Iron Champions which I think is the best of both worlds for "this is a real chapter," and "but there is less than 1 paragraph of fluff on them so do whatever." the cool thing about CSM vs SM is that they're much more prone to have armies that are just a bunch of guys left over, wearing whatever crap they can scrounge up. mixed warbands of pack rats are canon
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Cease to Hope posted:yeah but it's an opportunity to do your own takes on them. dracula mephiston. But doctor, Mephiston is a Dracula.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 18:55 |
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Cease to Hope posted:yeah but it's an opportunity to do your own takes on them. dracula mephiston. bloodweiser mascot corbulo. fat cherub sanguinor. I always preferred the idea of renegades like the Astral Claws, marines that were not specifically chaos-ed but more like 'Nah, gently caress this, we're going solo' and then running a renegade life - I know the Claws ended up all in on chaos after getting smashed, which is a shame.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:20 |
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Is there any reason to play an obscure successor chapter like Flesh Tearers or a Dark Angels successor? Seems like there's lots of cool fluff opportunities and the ability to choose a better paint scheme, but are they just using their chapters rules without access to the special characters or what?
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:22 |
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cant you use just use whatever chapters rules you want paint ur marines 2 be cool and then use rules that r cool
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:29 |
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Flesh Tearers have one Epic Hero, so if you like that one character that would be the reason for that specific chapter at least. The nice thing is that you can use whatever detachment you want, regardless of paint scheme so Epic Heroes are the only rules consideration in play.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:30 |
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Ashcans posted:I always preferred the idea of renegades like the Astral Claws, marines that were not specifically chaos-ed but more like 'Nah, gently caress this, we're going solo' and then running a renegade life - I know the Claws ended up all in on chaos after getting smashed, which is a shame. I like the idea of it, but I also like the idea that trying to turn your back on the Imperium without falling under the spell of the warp gods in the process is walking a very fine tightrope, and if you pull it off the Imperium will just tell everyone you turned to chaos anyway.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:34 |
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Roller Coast Guard posted:I like the idea of it, but I also like the idea that trying to turn your back on the Imperium without falling under the spell of the warp gods in the process is walking a very fine tightrope, and if you pull it off the Imperium will just tell everyone you turned to chaos anyway. The main problem is resources. You basically have to build your own little empire and get a forgeworld on your side to be able to have repair and resupply for armor, weapons, ships, etc etc. That ties you down to one location, which means the Imperium will eventually roll up with a much larger force than you can bring to bear, forcing you to flee to the one place they can't follow - the Eye of Terror. The other option is to become pirates. You have the same problem with resources, but you rely on mobility and raids to keep your heads above water, and you're basically prey for any bigger fish that comes along. And even then you need safe harbours to repair ship damage. Gravitas Shortfall fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Nov 17, 2023 |
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That's why the key part is to get lost in some corner of the galaxy that Imperium forgot about, or already conquered and then forgot about again.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:52 |
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:not sure about those helmets I like them a lot better than old hooded heads. Also seems to be a new weapon option with those swords.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 19:58 |
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Lostconfused posted:That's why the key part is to get lost in some corner of the galaxy that Imperium forgot about, or already conquered and then forgot about again. Turns out there was s renegade chapter living in Terra's garbage reclamation continent all this time.
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Sherbert Hoover posted:Is there any reason to play an obscure successor chapter like Flesh Tearers or a Dark Angels successor? Seems like there's lots of cool fluff opportunities and the ability to choose a better paint scheme, but are they just using their chapters rules without access to the special characters or what? The answer to this has somewhat varied over the different editions. In some editions they would just use the parent chapter's rules, so if you liked a set of rules but not the paint scheme they were a way to accomodate you. Some editions, like 9th, had traits that you could customize/choose for your faction, so you could have your successor chapter use customized traits without it being confusing and still able to use the force with the standard parent chapter rules in other games without it being confusing. In the current edition there are no specific faction traits or rules, just detachment rules and characters locked to certain factions. So theoretically if you wanted to play your White Scars as an artillery heavy ranged fighting force and run your Imperial Fists as a fast moving bike focused army you can.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The main problem is resources. You basically have to build your own little empire and get a forgeworld on your side to be able to have repair and resupply for armor, weapons, ships, etc etc. That ties you down to one location, which means the Imperium will eventually roll up with a much larger force than you can bring to bear, forcing you to flee to the one place they can't follow - the Eye of Terror. You can always go the Ashen Claws route. They're non-Chaos renegade space marines who supply the Carcharodons with aspirants from their planet in exchange for a cut of the Carcharodons' supply drops, which the Carcharodons get from the Adeptus Mechanicus on the down-low in exchange for archaotech the Carcharodons pass them on the down low, which they hunt down during their patrols of the galactic border. So they don't need a forge world and the whole supply chain is done through multiple layers of cut-outs. It is a bit convoluted, though. Might have trouble setting it up.
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Z the IVth posted:Turns out there was s renegade chapter living in Terra's garbage reclamation continent all this time. WALL-E would make a decent inspiration for a Space Marine color scheme.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 20:52 |
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Does Holy Terra even have continents, really? We think of continents as land masses separated by oceans, and Holy Terra doesn't have that second thing.
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 20:52 |
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Tarquinn posted:I can only speak for myself, but I do it because it anchors the stuff I am doing in the canon. And as I like the 40k universe, that's a big part of the hobby for me. I like it when people make their own subfaction/whatever because I enjoy seeing what people do with their pwn little corner of the universe
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 20:55 |
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The main problem is resources. You basically have to build your own little empire and get a forgeworld on your side to be able to have repair and resupply for armor, weapons, ships, etc etc. That ties you down to one location, which means the Imperium will eventually roll up with a much larger force than you can bring to bear, forcing you to flee to the one place they can't follow - the Eye of Terror. You can also have really weird poo poo happen to you like the Firehawks
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 21:03 |
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rantmo posted:But doctor, Mephiston is a Dracula. all i am saying is he could be even more dracula. honestly i just want someone to make a corbulo with a beer helmet
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Well now I want to see that too.
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Cease to Hope posted:
Yeah that's the plan, I've mentioned it before but I really just want to collect Chaos. I've got like 1500 points of my main warband but the long term goal is just little mini 500 point batches of other legions and just plug and play as needed (no mixed squads though, the squads will all be uniformly a single scheme). Held off on ordering it but when those christmas boxes actually release I might cruise around the local shops and see if I can nab a WE one as a side faction. I just love trim I guess
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# ? Nov 17, 2023 22:17 |
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I channeled my own daddy issues when creating my own custom chapter it’s weird as hell
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 00:15 |
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Professor Shark posted:I channeled my own daddy issues when creating my own custom chapter it’s weird as hell "The aspirants in our chapter are treated just like we were when we first met our primarch. Yes, sometimes our veterans yell at and mock the initiates for not holding the lumens properly when working on our chapters most sacred Dreadnought sarcophagi, and yes we put our lhosticks out on their flesh when they complain about the lack nutrient paste they receive. But you cannot argue with results!" " Yes remembrancer, it's true that those who fail to learn the lessons of the chapter are simply beaten over and over again to the point of near death, but the Emperor requires strong sons and our methodology works"
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 00:32 |
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Professor Shark posted:I channeled my own daddy issues when creating my own custom chapter it’s weird as hell I mean, so did more than a few of the Primarchs.
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 01:18 |
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Space marines are just generational trauma as military doctrine
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 01:27 |
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Ashcans posted:Space marines are just generational trauma as military doctrine Yeah, but only textually.
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 01:39 |
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The Championship reveal stream starts in 10 minutes. https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer First reveal, a new model for Orikan the Diviner. No word on Trazyn getting a new one as well. Yet... Then there's a new Narrative expansion, Crusade: Pariah Nexus. Then the Dark Angels doesn't get just get new Terminators, but a new Asmodai model too. Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Nov 18, 2023 |
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pew pew pew
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 04:11 |
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New Codex roadmap dropped, after the CSM one we have Genestealer, Sisters and [REDACTED].
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Professor Shark posted:I channeled my own daddy issues when creating my own custom chapter it’s weird as hell i have Mydudes.txt myself it's The Worst Goddamned Chaos Cult Ever. it's a led by a demon prince who was an ogryn who saw someone turn into a chaos spawn and had a transcendent religious moment. you can be something even crueler and meaner and not even have to think at all? unfortunately for him, ogryn are still pretty resistant to chaos corruption and he turned out to be the right amount of cruel, strong, and self-centered to make up for not being too bright. word got around about the chaos lord brute who aspired to spawndom, and attracted the sort of fanatic, erratic, and utterly ambitionless weirdos who would want to turn into spawn - and that turned out to be the perfect force for him to lead. after an untold amount of time erratically crushing the innocent, the last gift he got from a chaos god was princedom. so now he's pissed, and just smart enough to have an agenda, but the problem is he's not entirely sure which god it was. and his followers are all the most useless mutated idiots you've ever seen. plus now he has new headaches like a bunch of galaxy brain cranks who think that failing at failing is the new path to princedom, or various promises to explain or investigate his situation. at least they're likely to go off and get themselves killed!
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Cooked Auto posted:New Codex roadmap dropped, after the CSM one we have Genestealer, Sisters and [REDACTED]. Is that all for summer 2024?
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 04:30 |
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And 30k got the slightly cooler Assault Marines with the new Mk IV Assault Squad.tangy yet delightful posted:Is that all for summer 2024? Yeah, that was just the Summer 2024 slot in this case. WarCom pages are up, with pictures: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/18/world-championships-preview-orikan-divines-a-crusade-filled-future-in-the-pariah-nexus/ https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/18/world-championships-preview-asmodai-demands-to-know-which-codexes-are-coming-next/ https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/18/world-championships-preview-deathwing-knights-deep-strike-from-the-shadows/
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tangy yet delightful posted:Is that all for summer 2024?
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 04:32 |
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We finally get a plastic Tauros Venator. For Necromunda. The new Kill Team is Night Lord. It's another upgrade kit for the CSM box. Which is a thing long, long overdue I imagine. Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Nov 18, 2023 |
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Super Waffle posted:pew pew pew That dude looks amazing!
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# ? Nov 18, 2023 04:42 |
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Looks like the Deathwing Knight kit will "only" have options for Maces and Calibanite Swords, rather than supporting three squad types as the current one does. I would guess that means there will be a second kit for regular Deathwing with the command options, or an upgrade frame for the multipart terminators. Asmodai looks sick, I like that he's finally got his sword back from his classic art, even if it's not currently an option for standard Chaplains (maybe Interogator Chaplains will get the option if they get their own datasheet) And they went all in on his Darkwing Duck smokescreen.
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Cooked Auto posted:The new Kill Team is Night Lord. It's another upgrade kit for the CSM box. Which is a thing long, long overdue I imagine. ??? what do you mean that it's overdue?
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