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Univision, the Spanish language tv station, met with Trump at Mar-A-Lago and is now pulling any Biden campaign ad buys in multiple states. Washington post link that skips paywall. https://wapo.st/3ugUTDy "When Donald Trump ran for reelection in 2020, his campaign called Univision, the nation’s most influential Spanish-language network, “a leftist propaganda machine and a mouthpiece of the Democrat Party.”" "Three years later, Trump is treating Univision and its new corporate owners like long-lost friends. He hosted a trio of its executives at Mar-a-Lago last week during an hour-long Univision interview that was notable for its gracious tone, starting with a question about how well he is doing among Latino voters in early general election polling. Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, a friend of one of the executives, helped arrange the interview and was also in the room, according to multiple people familiar with the event." "The Democratic alarm further spiked two days later, when Univision advertising representatives told the Biden campaign that spots already purchased to run during the Trump interview in Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania and Florida had been canceled — owing to a heretofore unannounced policy about opposition advertising in single-candidate interviews."
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Sean Hannity seems to think that it's refreshing and cool that a GOP congressman from Alabama wants to challenge someone to a fist fight on the senate floor. Trying to imagine what type of "out of control thug" he might have been had he been a black representative from Chicago wanting to throw down. ... Also, things I'm learning from RWM recently: - Anyone who has sympathy for the plight of Palestinian civilians at ALL is a "Hamas supporter", which is not surprising but idiotic on its face. That'd be like if Trump starts a nuclear war in 2025, then I'm directly responsible. - Republicans really don't hate Russia anymore or even seem to care what Putin does. Reagan is spinning in his grave. - Everything Biden is doing or not doing regarding Israel is wrong and he's coddling Iran even though his words and his policies are essentially mainstream Republican views on this issue and Trump has actually said much worse things about Bibi. - It's totally OK for Trump to promise to eradicate liberal "vermin" if he's elected and all he's doing is the same thing that Biden's DOJ is doing to him. So, again, Biden's fault. - Gas prices and the stock market must not be important right now. - Valid comparisons of Trump and his rhetoric to Adolph Hitler are ridiculous because they're totally based around Trump's use of the word "vermin". One radio host actually said "Trump used the word 'and' once and so did Hitler" so that's the logic that the media is using here to describe Donald. - Party of law and order hates cops now - especially the FBI - and is gravely concerned about selective prosecution all of a sudden.
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Nov 16, 2023 00:18
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OgNar posted:Univision, the Spanish language tv station, met with Trump at Mar-A-Lago and is now pulling any Biden campaign ad buys in multiple states. It's pretty epic that a combination of Biden being boringly mediocre, Trump backing up trucks of money/influence/whatever to Univision/Meta/whoever else will let him lie with impunity now publicly, and American's goldfish memory will let Trump cruise into the presidency again. Really dumb world we have here.
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Nov 16, 2023 01:24
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Big corporations desperately want Trump back. Especially the media ones.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Big corporations desperately want Trump back. Especially the media ones. Fwiw a lot of big corporations are not actually wanting Trump back, or the Republicans generally. Even industry that has a generally deregulatory agenda still has a baseline of wanting the government and economy to function (in their favor), and the Republicans aren't reliably meeting that threshold anymore.
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Discendo Vox posted:Fwiw a lot of big corporations are not actually wanting Trump back, or the Republicans generally. Even industry that has a generally deregulatory agenda still has a baseline of wanting the government and economy to function (in their favor), and the Republicans aren't reliably meeting that threshold anymore. Big corporations like stability and being able to plan more than 30 seconds into the future which was impossible under Trump. Although I believe this is true the problem is that they aren’t actively participating in stopping Trump they’re seemingly just sitting by waiting for the wind to blow. Probably because the people who run the big corporations really don’t want to pay taxes.
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And media outlets that aren't explicitly partisan are most comfortable when they're casting themselves as opposition holding power accountable and/or covering a sensationalist horse race election. Endless coverage of palace intrigue and "Here's why the incumbent is in trouble!" sells clicks.
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i mean if gov. collapses then tax will be zero right?
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PhazonLink posted:i mean if gov. collapses then tax will be zero right? The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Nov 16, 2023 |
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/EladNehorai/status/1725007576042221784?t=jXi4fPmsomxKTqDEMbx4ZQ&s=19 So is he not backing israel in the genocide of palestine?
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Chud mayor firing up the ole gaslight here https://twitter.com/smcfarlandmboro/status/1725005428046598151?t=kXiW4LGsz_K2qKp4XhRMBA&s=19 quote:One of my least favorite things about politics now is that everything is based upon narratives and NOT truth…
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"Oh no, there's a buttplug in a book a TEEN has access to, that's way too much for them!!" My dude, if a post-pubescent teen owns a cell phone, they are regularly using it to watch/read porn the types of which we need to invent entirely new terms in English to describe and they're turning out just fine, calm down.
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Nov 17, 2023 22:50
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They play this annoying game with it where they argue "Well it isn't a book BAN you're free to get these books if you want to read them" but give away the game with the "we shouldn't allow pornography in schools"
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Nov 17, 2023 23:48
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That seems like extremely tame sex education material to me?
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:"Oh no, there's a buttplug in a book a TEEN has access to, that's way too much for them!!" My dude, if a post-pubescent teen owns a cell phone, they are regularly using it to watch/read porn the types of which we need to invent entirely new terms in English to describe and they're turning out just fine, calm down. I AM GRANDO posted:That seems like extremely tame sex education material to me?
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The Islamic Shock posted:This one's easy for the conservatives. Acknowledging that teenagers are horny is often done for creepy reasons anyway so of course you're either clutching your pearls with sufficient vigor or are a pedophile. Yeah I keep forgetting that the other side in this "debate" legitimately believes that the Duggar method of sex education (an audio CD of an old man chastely describing the mechanics of missionary position sex, given to you only on the night of your wedding) is the only way to go. Any acknowledgement of teenagers having hormones is just giving into the sexual anarchist propaganda. Any candid advice, no matter how well-intentioned and educational in content, is pure pornography that is leading our cherubic angels down the road to perdition in the Eternal Pit. Best to not engage with them at all, they're not exactly inhabiting the same reality as the rest of us.
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You'll note they're heavily fixated on imagery/illustrations in regard to this content for shock value. And they always bring up the same drat images- a particular excerpt from Gender Queer depicting a person getting a blow job but they're wearing a strap on (and kinda explicitly telling the partner this isn't really doing it for them. Technically, there's no nudity even. Then there's another page that mentions different sex acts and they get really fixated on rimming "Why does a third grader need to know about rimming?" I remember this because it's the SAME TWO PAGES they blast over and over. There's also a few exerpts from some novels as well. But that's it. You'd think if it was such a problem they'd have more examples. Honestly though what bothers me more about this kind of bad faith pearl clutching is their hostility towards teaching basic concepts of consent. The kindergarten level application of it is always really really benign. It very much reinforces the notion that many forms of physical contact are purely voluntary and it's totally OK to decline, say, a hug no matter who it is. But we all know chuds hate that because it undermines a fundamental aspect of how they maintain hierarchies-normalize the idea of "this is just the way things are" make the nails that stick out the furthest the first ones to get hammered down, then turn around and victim blame when someone who is given zero tools to enforce their body autonomy. Someone with a good grasp is going to push back, isn't going to be daunted by  and isn't going to let themselves be a victim.
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Yeah I remember the early-ish Obama days where the abstinence-only folks were hammering the whole "Planned Parenthood is handing out condoms to kindergarteners!?!?" messaging pretty hard, and the slightest amount of research revealed they were recommending completely-benign "tell a trusted adult if someone touches your swimsuit area" stuff at that age. You'd think that support for that sort of lesson would be universal, but I guess not!
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Yeah, and even the other stuff you'd think you could talk sense onto them about it- -The person here receiving a fake sex act isn't even enjoying what's being done. In fact she might not even be sexually attracted to anyone in the story! Doesn't that affirm what you already believe, that people shouldn't be pressured into enjoying stuff if they feel uncomfortable? -wouldn't you WANT stupid teenagers to know that licking someone's rear end in a top hat might come with some risks, and that they should consider precautions? Why should we have to explain it? The same reason we have to tell grown rear end adults not to dip their running hair dryer in the bathtub!
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You can't even begin to entertain talking sense into them about that stuff, though, because they're genuinely outraged at the suggestion that we don't roundly condemn, as a society, any sexual activity outside of heterosexual marriage (that doesn't get too weird with it). Their end goal is to make fornication and gender rebellion illegal. They are light-years away from talking about safe ways to eat rear end.
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I wonder if there's a good breakdown between comparing standardized test scores and sex education curriculum. Because they like to act like schools are teaching kids made up pronouns at the expense of more practical concepts yet if that were so true then statistics should prove it, right?
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Panfilo posted:Yeah, and even the other stuff you'd think you could talk sense onto them about it- They do want people (women) to accept the idea that they will be pressured into sex that they won’t be expected to enjoy, though, and that their enjoyment is completely irrelevant to what’s going on. They feel threatened by the elements of personal empowerment and mutual satisfaction in these books and use the charge of obscenity as cover to eliminate those things. It’s like how they worked to hard to ruin language about grooming so that it could no longer describe specific practices that are very common in American protestant churches and rural communities, where the girls would no longer be suitable prey if they could understand what the men in charge of them were doing. Their hatred of gay and trans people is honestly as much about wanting to punish someone for not blindly obeying as it is about wanting to eliminate all difference.
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Panfilo posted:I wonder if there's a good breakdown between comparing standardized test scores and sex education curriculum. Because they like to act like schools are teaching kids made up pronouns at the expense of more practical concepts yet if that were so true then statistics should prove it, right? It wouldn't matter because they don't care.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:Yeah I remember the early-ish Obama days where the abstinence-only folks were hammering the whole "Planned Parenthood is handing out condoms to kindergarteners!?!?" messaging pretty hard, and the slightest amount of research revealed they were recommending completely-benign "tell a trusted adult if someone touches your swimsuit area" stuff at that age. You'd think that support for that sort of lesson would be universal, but I guess not! There is no reasoning with these people. I have 4 kids in public school in different grades from 3rd to 12th, and never once have they experienced anything close to what these morons are spouting off about. No one is being told to use different pronouns, no one is being encouraged to be trans, no one is teaching the little ones about explicit sex, and no one is being told to keep secrets from their parents. If you listen to what these right wing crackpots say, you would think every public school is showing hardcore gay porn to kindergartners in an effort to convert them to satanism and are secretly forcing teens to have sex change operations behind their parent’s backs. What they ARE being taught is to respect others, don’t touch people if they don’t want touched, to embrace different viewpoints, and that’s it ok to be different and think for yourself. Somehow these are DANGEROUS concepts?
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Yeah same. I remember when chuds were calling Social Emotional Learning to be Critical Race Theory 2.0 but in parent teacher conferences I was almost disappointed in how boring and mundane it actually was- merely an effort to more accurately gauge student progress. And far from it being some kind of Participation Trophy method it was actually very useful in identifying shortcomings and addressing problems that previous methods would have missed. My kids are in a very 'woke' school yet stuff like pronouns or eating rear end certainly never comes up lol.
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GPTribefan posted:What they ARE being taught is to respect others, don’t touch people if they don’t want touched, to embrace different viewpoints, and that’s it ok to be different and think for yourself. Somehow these are DANGEROUS concepts? Edit at above: so did they really just see social and emotional and reflexively oppose it on that alone Edit at below: lol The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Nov 18, 2023 |
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GPTribefan posted:What they ARE being taught is to respect others, don’t touch people if they don’t want touched, to embrace different viewpoints, and that’s it ok to be different and think for yourself. Somehow these are DANGEROUS concepts? To conservatives these are extremely dangerous concepts. As someone posted above, the conservative worldview is that you accept whatever happens to you because that’s just the way things are. That includes accepting whatever anyone superior does to you and accepting your own status as inferior to your natural betters in the great chain of order that governs the universe. Teaching bodily autonomy to children is child abuse to them because it spoils their entire system and upends their worldview, making it possible for their children to escape. There is a sense in which they’re correct that modernity is hostile to conservatives and everything in modern culture is an attack on them.
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The end result of a conservative's ideal "education" isn't a well-rounded individual who thinks for themself, it's a totally-obedient carbon copy of the parent. Anything that is taught to a child that isn't in complete agreement with their parents' worldview, or leads them to possibly existing outside of their parents' strict standards for them as people, is thus inherently threatening and needs to be fought against, screamed about from the rooftops, and banned if possible. It's really that simple. Like, the whole bullshit about school "transing the kids" is much less a reaction to a thing that is Totally Actually Happening, and more of a knee-jerk freakout at the idea that their kids' teachers might know something about their kids that they don't. They don't want teachers to be confidants, they want them to be snitches, because they want utter control over every aspect of their child's lives. Any hurdle in front of getting their kid into conversion therapy to "fix the problem" needs to be completely destroyed, or else the entire system is ruined.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:"Oh no, there's a buttplug in a book a TEEN has access to, that's way too much for them!!" My dude, if a post-pubescent teen owns a cell phone, they are regularly using it to watch/read porn the types of which we need to invent entirely new terms in English to describe and they're turning out just fine, calm down. I am not a fan of the "if they have internet then nothing is shocking" angle, it plays into the other side's justifications for pearl-clutching too well. The suggestion received is twofold: teens deserve the harshest censorship/monitoring, and school/library standards are benchmarked to "just short of pornhub" and therefore not to be trusted. There is a take I saw early in the Gender Queer discourse that doesn't come up often: it wasn't a hit with teens upon release. There was an article about a school where that looked into the checkout numbers for Gender Queer the two years it was available: zero. There were drawings of dicks in George Washington's mouth in history textbooks that had a wider-ranging effect than the comic. One Piece is warping perceptions of gender at light speed in comparison (both via its depictions of women and its own trans character).
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Space Fish posted:I am not a fan of the "if they have internet then nothing is shocking" angle, it plays into the other side's justifications for pearl-clutching too well. The suggestion received is twofold: teens deserve the harshest censorship/monitoring, and school/library standards are benchmarked to "just short of pornhub" and therefore not to be trusted. Yeah it's not an argument I'd actually use with them, for those reasons. It's just a frustrated observation that they live in this fantasy land where children are all precious innocent angels until they hit 18, so we can't corrupt them by letting them know gay people exist, meanwhile the average Gen Z girl has written a non-zero amount of Sasuke x Naruto fanfiction at some point in her life.
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I AM GRANDO posted:To conservatives these are extremely dangerous concepts. As someone posted above, the conservative worldview is that you accept whatever happens to you because that’s just the way things are. That includes accepting whatever anyone superior does to you and accepting your own status as inferior to your natural betters in the great chain of order that governs the universe. Teaching bodily autonomy to children is child abuse to them because it spoils their entire system and upends their worldview, making it possible for their children to escape. There is a sense in which they’re correct that modernity is hostile to conservatives and everything in modern culture is an attack on them. This is the great hypocrisy of conservatism, and especially the new ultra conservative movement. They spend so much time accusing THE RADICAL LEFT of “grooming” kids, yet their entire continued existence is based on grooming their children. Making sure that whatever philosophy is taught in the house is the only thing they’re allowed to learn, closing them off to any opposing viewpoints or ideas, encouraging home schooling, discouraging college or higher education in general, and vilifying anyone who attempts to expose them to anything different. They themselves clearly understand how fragile and easily broken their agenda is - the slightest unfettered exposure to opposing viewpoints in higher education tends to break people of conservatism.
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Uhhhh. I didnt' have Madison on my list for places where hosed up poo poo happens, but apparently it did. https://news.wisc.edu/uw-madison-statement-on-saturday-neo-nazi-march/ The most notable thing here is 0 coverage by any right wing media of it, that I can find even when searching. Searches of "madison nazi march" don't pull up fox news. Just democratic sites.
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notwithoutmyanus posted:Uhhhh. I didnt' have Madison on my list for places where hosed up poo poo happens, but apparently it did. That means you're officially a Republican now. Sorry, I don't make the rules. 
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notwithoutmyanus posted:Uhhhh. I didnt' have Madison on my list for places where hosed up poo poo happens, but apparently it did. Any information on the name of the specific group involved? I'm always curious to see how these groups are rebranding, since a lot of the alt-right has imploded or been reabsorbed into other entities and the old-old KKK groups have been moribund. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Nov 19, 2023 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Any information on the name of the specific group involved? I'm always curious to see how these groups are rebranding, since a lot of the alt-right has imploded or been reabsorbed into other entities and the old-old KKK groups have been moribund. This was the only thing I could find saying who. That same group who previously said they were for Joe Biden. https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1725968756097142899
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notwithoutmyanus posted:Oh no! Does this mean I need to deny the existence of trans people now? Or just make fun of black disabled people and get myself a gun? Look at your bookshelf. In the space where you used to have your Communist Manifesto is now a Bible. Pick it up. Notice how heavy it feels? Now open it... yes, it's hollow. Grab that Smith & Wesson, feel the cool metal in your hands . Welcome to the Republican party, son!
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Tradition says you take your last Soros check down to the gun store with the Trump signs in the window, you know the one, and buy an AR-15. Edit: Also after turning in your Antifa hoodie you are obligated to find an internet thread on a highly conservative website and make a post starting, “I used to be a democrat but I’ve just been driven off by all the babies I had to murder “ or some other irrational and impossible straw man. Murgos fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Nov 19, 2023 |
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Nenonen posted:Feel the cool metal in your hands . That's not cold metal, it's the power of the second amendment! *he-man voice* By the powers of Hitler!
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