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Llamadeus
Dec 20, 2005
Also if you're buying in the UK, buying from Amazon (also keyboardco, mechboards, keycrox) has the benefit of not having to go through customs - keychron.uk says they ship from Hong Kong

Llamadeus fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Nov 10, 2023

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Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Ah, OK. So the reason some of you are against recommending these is not because they're hyperspecialised keyboardnerd keyboards, but because they're bad? Or at least the company is crap?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Jaded Burnout posted:

Ah, OK. So the reason some of you are against recommending these is not because they're hyperspecialised keyboardnerd keyboards, but because they're bad? Or at least the company is crap?

Keychron is bad at warranty support and some goons have been burned buying directly from them. I got one of their keyboards a couple of years back and it's been fine. Keychron is a Chinese vendor that makes a lot of boards and while they're generally good quality but if there's a problem then you may not get help. I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up, just only from a vendor with a good return policy if there's an issue out of the box. The hot swappable switches make them a good choice for most folks since you can change it up if you don't like it.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X

Jaded Burnout posted:

So the reason some of you are against recommending these is not because they're hyperspecialised keyboardnerd keyboards

No no no. That's why we love them!

The issue is their "customer service" is aggressively unhelpful. If you contact them saying there's something wrong with the keyboard you bought from them, they will tell you to go gently caress yourself.

Most of the regulars in this thread have a soldering iron and aren't afraid to use it, so that's not a problem. If that's not you though you're definitely going to want the option of Amazon's return policy, just in case.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
Nthing buying from a vendor with excellent return policies.

The Q6 I bought was functionally fine, and thock!'d like a dream, but holy poo poo, I don't know how the aluminum case passed QC, it had this horrible tactile burr around the outside top edge.

I have machines to fix that kind of thing, it's part of my job, even, heck, when I got started in manufacturing, that was my job for eight hours a day, cleaning up burrs on parts before they went out to finishing, and I absolutely would never have let that get past QC, and it was definitely something I shouldn't have to do at $250, and I could tell from the email I sent complaining as such was not going to get any traction whatsoever.

SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Nov 11, 2023

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Well it seems like microsoft have stopped making either of the keyboards I'm familiar with (or just none available anywhere), and there's only one UK supplier of keychron and they don't have any supply of the keycaps, so it's a 2 week wait for an amazon order for me. But at least I can return it.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


i like my keychron q3 pro se but yeah i got it from amazon

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Eric the Mauve posted:

No no no. That's why we love them!

The issue is their "customer service" is aggressively unhelpful. If you contact them saying there's something wrong with the keyboard you bought from them, they will tell you to go gently caress yourself.

Most of the regulars in this thread have a soldering iron and aren't afraid to use it, so that's not a problem. If that's not you though you're definitely going to want the option of Amazon's return policy, just in case.

disaster pastor posted:

If you have an issue with your keyboard and go to Keychron, they will essentially say "first of all, go gently caress yourself, you're not entitled to a working keyboard, and second, if you bother us again about this, we'll show up at your house and shove the keyboard up your rear end." If you bought it from Amazon, though, Amazon will just, y'know, replace it.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
That post should be in the OP

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Jaded Burnout posted:

Well it seems like microsoft have stopped making either of the keyboards I'm familiar with (or just none available anywhere), and there's only one UK supplier of keychron and they don't have any supply of the keycaps, so it's a 2 week wait for an amazon order for me. But at least I can return it.

If you ever want to unleash your inner gundam pilot and get weird (also spend a lot more), the Angry Miao AM AFA is funny looking (R2 sold out):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd3GacYu5us
https://www.angrymiao.com/en/am-afa-r2/

Dumb Sex-Parrot
Dec 25, 2020

 
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I've got a 10 year old Unicomp Modem M that's recently started not responding to some keystrokes. The problem can be made to go away if I slam the keyboard on the desk but I feel this isn't a longterm solution.
Is there an easy fix for this? I've tried disassembling it but I can't seem to dislodge the black plastic cover that all the keys are fastened to.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
If all else fails, Unicomp is the opposite of Keychron--you pay I think about $40 and can ship it to them and they'll fix it and ship it back. (Only if you're in the US though, as believe it or not Unicomp's only manufacturing/repair facility is in the US.)

The Model M doesn't have NKRO, is it a consistent small group of keys having the trouble?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Dead Sex-Parrot posted:

I've got a 10 year old Unicomp Modem M that's recently started not responding to some keystrokes. The problem can be made to go away if I slam the keyboard on the desk but I feel this isn't a longterm solution.
Is there an easy fix for this? I've tried disassembling it but I can't seem to dislodge the black plastic cover that all the keys are fastened to.

Usually with model m's there's plastic rivets holding the internal layers together. Over time some of these can break and cause the membrane part that gets stomped on by the buckling spring foot to not register properly in some areas. If you shake your keyboard you might hear some rattling around inside. You can fix it yourself with a bolt mod but it's a bit time consuming. I've had one lined up to bolt mod on for years and just haven't gotten around to it. Essentially you cut off the squished part of the rivet on the back plate, then drill a tiny hole through to the front, where you insert a little tiny machine screw (bolt). Then you put some tiny nuts on the back plate and it's good. I don't think they're really plastic rivets so much as plastic posts on the front frame to align all the layers which then just get heat squished on the back. Either way, here's the GH page on it:
https://wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?title=Modifications:IBM_Model_M:Nut_and_Bolt_Mod

This guy did a video on his bolt modding but he also tried cleaning corrosion where he thought the traces looked bad which could be a potential issue as well. He wasn't super careful, but it seems to be working:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQBies8_sIE

As Eric said, Unicomp will service them if you want to reach out to them. I don't know how they repair this but they may replace the frame and melt the posts again.

BUUNNI
Jun 23, 2023

by Pragmatica
Just realized I can’t get any shine through keycaps for the Keychron keyboard I have because they use south facing LEDs. What the actual gently caress :psyduck:

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Get some with little in-built fibre optics so it can channel the light from the keys behind it.

CBD Corndog
Jun 21, 2009



BUUNNI posted:

Just realized I can’t get any shine through keycaps for the Keychron keyboard I have because they use south facing LEDs. What the actual gently caress :psyduck:

There are keycaps with imprints on the sides that work with south facing LEDs, Amazon is full of them and Drop have a few sets too

Like these
https://www.amazon.com/PBT-Keycaps-Minimalist-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B0BZCFFB94

CBD Corndog fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Nov 12, 2023

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

BUUNNI posted:

Just realized I can’t get any shine through keycaps for the Keychron keyboard I have because they use south facing LEDs. What the actual gently caress :psyduck:

south-facing is pretty standard on enthusiast-oriented boards, cherry profile keycaps can have clearance issues on north-facing switches because south-facing is how cherry intends them to be oriented

you can work around it by getting switches with translucent top housings which diffuse the light all over

BUUNNI
Jun 23, 2023

by Pragmatica

CBD Corndog posted:

There are keycaps with imprints on the sides that work with south facing LEDs, Amazon is full of them and Drop have a few sets too

Like these
https://www.amazon.com/PBT-Keycaps-Minimalist-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B0BZCFFB94

I haven’t found any that come with the CMD key for Mac, only Windows :/

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all
Got the Logitech G PRO TKL in today. The good: overall, the switches feel nice, the backlighting is decent, the footprint and layout was what I was looking for, and there are volume/mute/media fn-keys. Now for the bad: the software is pretty much garbage, like 10 extremely bland backlight effects with minimal customization, incredibly counter intuitive, you can set up macro keys via the F1-F12 keys(?) but only for windows macros I think, and you can't turn off the obnoxiously bright "G" logo in the top left corner unless you choose the static color option and only the static color option for some reason. Finally for some bizzare reason there is no backlight brightness control outside of going into the software, setting a static color, and adjusting the RGB/HEX values themselves.

I'll keep test driving it for another week, but I can see this one getting relegated to security-cam/laser cutter NUC duty, and buying a Steelseries Apex Pro TKL.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

spookykid posted:

Got the Logitech G PRO TKL in today. The good: overall, the switches feel nice, the backlighting is decent, the footprint and layout was what I was looking for, and there are volume/mute/media fn-keys. Now for the bad: the software is pretty much garbage, like 10 extremely bland backlight effects with minimal customization, incredibly counter intuitive, you can set up macro keys via the F1-F12 keys(?) but only for windows macros I think, and you can't turn off the obnoxiously bright "G" logo in the top left corner unless you choose the static color option and only the static color option for some reason. Finally for some bizzare reason there is no backlight brightness control outside of going into the software, setting a static color, and adjusting the RGB/HEX values themselves.

I'll keep test driving it for another week, but I can see this one getting relegated to security-cam/laser cutter NUC duty, and buying a Steelseries Apex Pro TKL.


I would have thought anything from these companies who are making their own [everything] and likely cutting corners isn't going to be satisfactory vs something using the switches from a real manufacturer with a proven record. I had a SteelSeries 6gv2 and it was fantastic, with cherry switches.

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA
Got a question: do you fellows think it'd be worth spending $12 on those little rubber silicone feet that come on the bottom of a keyboard to replace one of the ones that fell off and is making my keyboard wobbly? Customer support is offering to sell me the exact same type of rubber foot as came with my keyboard originally, but $12 seems kinda like a ripoff for only two pieces of silicone (that are taller than normal rubber bumpers, admittedly, but still).

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

god please help me posted:

Got a question: do you fellows think it'd be worth spending $12 on those little rubber silicone feet that come on the bottom of a keyboard to replace one of the ones that fell off and is making my keyboard wobbly? Customer support is offering to sell me the exact same type of rubber foot as came with my keyboard originally, but $12 seems kinda like a ripoff for only two pieces of silicone (that are taller than normal rubber bumpers, admittedly, but still).

Yeah I'd buy that assuming it's a keyboard you like.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

spookykid posted:

Got the Logitech G PRO TKL in today. The good: overall, the switches feel nice, the backlighting is decent, the footprint and layout was what I was looking for, and there are volume/mute/media fn-keys. Now for the bad: the software is pretty much garbage, like 10 extremely bland backlight effects with minimal customization, incredibly counter intuitive, you can set up macro keys via the F1-F12 keys(?) but only for windows macros I think, and you can't turn off the obnoxiously bright "G" logo in the top left corner unless you choose the static color option and only the static color option for some reason. Finally for some bizzare reason there is no backlight brightness control outside of going into the software, setting a static color, and adjusting the RGB/HEX values themselves.

I'll keep test driving it for another week, but I can see this one getting relegated to security-cam/laser cutter NUC duty, and buying a Steelseries Apex Pro TKL.

The main reasons I got the G Pro TKL is that I wanted to try their switches and see if the lower latency helped in games where I felt like I had just a little too much lag. I think it helped a bit but I'm not sure which variable helped the most. The color stuff is pretty bad, it's far less fancy than the G915 TKL I have, but I don't care too much for the RGB personally, so I just use a fixed white color and it's not too bright so I've been fine with it. It was also like $50 instead of the $200+ for the G915 (although that one is wireless and I wouldn't buy one at full price normally). The G being on all of the time is a little annoying. I could go and do freestyle assignments and make the keys all white and turn the G as black as possible but either it's still slightly on or it gets bleed through from the other keys since it's still on faintly. It doesn't bother me too much, though.

BUUNNI
Jun 23, 2023

by Pragmatica
The keychron keyboard I got a few weeks ago just stopped working. It's a nice device but besides the fact that it doesn't detect key presses anymore it kinda sucks that the backlighting is useless since there are no Mac shine-through keys available anywhere. What a strange keyboard.

I just ordered a NuPhy Air75 V2 with shinethrough keycaps instead :v:

Reoxygenation
Dec 8, 2010

if wishes were fishes fuck you this is my pie

god please help me posted:

Got a question: do you fellows think it'd be worth spending $12 on those little rubber silicone feet that come on the bottom of a keyboard to replace one of the ones that fell off and is making my keyboard wobbly? Customer support is offering to sell me the exact same type of rubber foot as came with my keyboard originally, but $12 seems kinda like a ripoff for only two pieces of silicone (that are taller than normal rubber bumpers, admittedly, but still).

You could always try regular taller bumpers and if you dislike it go for the 12$ replacement, no? I mean it's more money ultimately but shrug.

Also of the opinion that if you like that keyboard you should go for it tbh

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002
I'm bad with money and make poor decisions in general, thus I bought a K100. I really like my 8 year old K70. It's....fine but I'm not seeing or feeling where the expense is. I'll rarely use the knob. ICUE kind of sucks.

I'm thinking about returning it and picking up a Wooting Two HE or maybe even the TKL version.

Also considering the K70 with OPX since I actually like the switches. I'm intrigued with customizable actuation though. I'm not sure how useful it would be in practice but it seems like a cool feature.

Dirac Fourier
Aug 14, 2023
Does anyone know if cherry xtrfy is a reliable vendor? I'm looking to buy some cherry grey rgb switches, and they seem hard to find. I would buy from Corsair, but they sell in packs of 65 and I need 67.

Ben Nerevarine
Apr 14, 2006

Dirac Fourier posted:

Does anyone know if cherry xtrfy is a reliable vendor? I'm looking to buy some cherry grey rgb switches, and they seem hard to find. I would buy from Corsair, but they sell in packs of 65 and I need 67.

First thing first, I would reach out to Corsair’s support directly and see if they’ll work with you to ship you a handful more for a small upcharge. They may tell you to go pound sand (“we only sell/ship our product as is”) but it’s worth a try.

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.
Or this may be a useful case of using different type of switches for some keys.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo
Hello.

Is there an easy way to find out the size of the space key on a board? I cannot tell if the space key is 6.5 or 6.25 space but I do not have the actual keyboard on me.

It is a RK and I feel like posting the image here will cause mass vomit

NSF thread
https://i.imgur.com/xhQOPT9.png

EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Nov 16, 2023

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

6.25 by my reckoning

bottom row mods are 1.25 (visibly smaller than tab which is always 1.5)

15 - (1.25 * 7) = 6.25

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

repiv posted:

6.25 by my reckoning

bottom row mods are 1.25 (visibly smaller than tab which is always 1.5)

15 - (1.25 * 7) = 6.25

Thanks a lot!

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
That's my reckoning too. On the right, it's less than a quarter from the edge of the key above it. On the left, it's not quite at the halfway point on the cap above. Shift it to line up with the rightmost key, and it's only going to hit a small bit of the 7th key to the left.

Ihmemies
Oct 6, 2012

I spilled a bit of milk on my corsair k70 rgb keyboard. The volume scroll has been quite sticky after this. It works, but it's signifcantly higher resistance when adjusting volume. How good/bad idea it would be to open the keyboard and try to do Something to the problem?

Like, is it better to live with that "feature", or try to fix it..

Edit: also does anyone do some kind of "macro" keyboards which come to for example left side of the keyboard.. more hotkeys would be sweet.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT
The term you are probably looking for is macropad.

I don't have any recommendations tho.


Edit: ooo, you were looking for a full keyboard with like a macro pad on the side.

Logitech has the G915, which is the only one I recall seeing recently.

Moey fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Nov 19, 2023

BUUNNI
Jun 23, 2023

by Pragmatica
Selling my Durgod Hades 68 RGB keyboard. Truly a great keyboard and probably what I would use for the rest of my life but since I don't use Windows OS anymore I decided to get rid it. If anyone is interested let me know before I post it up on SA Mart or god forbid eBay. I think $60 is fair since it cost $119 back in September of 2022.





This is what it sounds like.

quote:

▼ROBUST ALUMINUM FRAME: The Durgod Hades 68 features a sturdy, durable aluminum case for enhanced longevity.
▼DOUBLE-SHOT PBT KEYCAPS: The keyboard comes with translucent double-shot PBT keycaps in a standard Cherry profile, ANSI US Layout, ensuring long-lasting durability and clarity.
▼DURGOD HERA ENGINE SUPPORT: Make the most of your keyboard with the Durgod Hera Engine software. Upgrade your keyboard's firmware, customize complex macros, rebind keys, and personalize lighting effects to suit your needs.
▼QMK FIRMWARE COMPATIBLE: Provides added flexibility for power users looking to customize their keyboard's functionality.

Gearman
Dec 6, 2011

Ihmemies posted:

I spilled a bit of milk on my corsair k70 rgb keyboard. The volume scroll has been quite sticky after this. It works, but it's signifcantly higher resistance when adjusting volume. How good/bad idea it would be to open the keyboard and try to do Something to the problem?

Like, is it better to live with that "feature", or try to fix it..

Edit: also does anyone do some kind of "macro" keyboards which come to for example left side of the keyboard.. more hotkeys would be sweet.

There are boards that are "XT" that put extra keys on the left side. It's usually just moving keys that are typically on the right side over to the left so it's not more total keys.

god please help me
Jul 9, 2018
I LOVE GIVING MY TAX MONEY AND MY PERSONAL INCOME TO UKRAINE, SLAVA

Ihmemies posted:

I spilled a bit of milk on my corsair k70 rgb keyboard. The volume scroll has been quite sticky after this. It works, but it's signifcantly higher resistance when adjusting volume. How good/bad idea it would be to open the keyboard and try to do Something to the problem?

Like, is it better to live with that "feature", or try to fix it..

Edit: also does anyone do some kind of "macro" keyboards which come to for example left side of the keyboard.. more hotkeys would be sweet.

https://kbdcraft.store/products/adam0110b

Maybe something like this? I know on the website I've seen pictures floating around of people putting the numpad on the left instead of the right. And then with qmk/via, you could remap the keys to be whatever you'd like. Like another goon said, this is not adding extra keys though, just moving things to the left which in itself is pretty convenient.

Edit: I also don't know if you'd be open to the idea of a separate left-handed macro pad. There are many things you could use as such, including this one: https://a.co/d/645UJ0p

If you're okay with the extra keys being on top instead of the left, I think there might be more recs I could give.

god please help me fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Nov 19, 2023

Koskun
Apr 20, 2004
I worship the ground NinjaPablo walks on

Ihmemies posted:

I spilled a bit of milk on my corsair k70 rgb keyboard. The volume scroll has been quite sticky after this. It works, but it's signifcantly higher resistance when adjusting volume. How good/bad idea it would be to open the keyboard and try to do Something to the problem?
They aren't too bad to take the case off, however there are a few screws that are hidden if I remember right.

That said, getting TO the scroll wheel might be a bit of a pain, as the board itself is pretty set in there. I took one of mine apart a few years ago, so my memory of disassembly is fuzzy. I'd look up a few videos to make sure.

If you can at least get some access to the scroll wheel area, rubbing alcohol. Get the highest percentage you can (91%, to get higher you might have to go to an actual medical supply store, and isn't really worth it). You can be pretty liberal with the stuff. A squirt bottle perhaps, or small syringe. Squirt it over the area, let it soak in and essentially flush it clean. If you have a small soft brush that can reach in there, it won't hurt (small toothbrush, straw brush, stuff like that). Might take a while to flush dried milk out, but it should work.

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Dirac Fourier
Aug 14, 2023
What do you guys think about the Bauer Lite from Omnitype? They keep sending it to my inbox for a Black Friday sale. My first impression is it doesn't really make sense to me. $120 for a 65% barebones plastic kit that doesn't even have a knob or RGB. I feel like I'm missing something here. I see it's made in the USA, so maybe that's a bonus for some buyers.

Here's the link: https://omnitype.com/pages/bauer-lite

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