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Splint Chesthair posted:Ironically the legend goes that if it wasn’t for Murray, Hudson would have been given hardly any lines in the original. I heard that, too. Apparently, a lot of Winston's lines were originally someone else's. So... Like.... They'd just have one guy who doesn't talk? Like the first two seasons of The Shield?
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Timby posted:That scene bothers the poo poo out of me because the passage Ray quotes is from Revelation 6, not 7. He also gets the year of the Tunguska blast off by 1, so I've always interpreted it as the character just being a little off with his numbers. 
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I heard that, too. Apparently, a lot of Winston's lines were originally someone else's. So... Like.... They'd just have one guy who doesn't talk? Like the first two seasons of The Shield? Yea assuming this is true and considering they had already drastically reduced Winston’s part from when he was an Air Force major, it seems like after they couldn’t get (or couldn’t afford?) Eddie Murphy they just…didn’t know what to do with him and kept him as just a nebulous fourth guy. I’ve always been really happy with the Winston we got for GB1 despite all that tho, I think the bigger crime was keeping him out of a bunch of the GB2 early scenes just as a way to kind of artificially force it into the same general pattern of GB1.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:I heard that, too. Apparently, a lot of Winston's lines were originally someone else's. So... Like.... They'd just have one guy who doesn't talk? Like the first two seasons of The Shield? Poor Ronnie. Never could catch a break.
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Guy A. Person posted:Yea assuming this is true and considering they had already drastically reduced Winston’s part from when he was an Air Force major, it seems like after they couldn’t get (or couldn’t afford?) Eddie Murphy they just…didn’t know what to do with him and kept him as just a nebulous fourth guy. I wouldn't be surprised if their idea was "We'll get Eddie Murphy, then instead of writing a bunch of stuff for him, just have him improv his stuff during scenes, and we'll keep what works." And then when they could get him, they hired a more classical actor, who then didn't have much to do in the script.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:And Ghostbusters 2 was one of four movies my mom pulled me out of school with my brother to go see (I was in High School, lol). So what were the other 3?
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Beachcomber posted:So what were the other 3? The feature film adaptations of Bass Masters. It's a fishing movie.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:The feature film adaptations of Bass Masters. Oh yeah I’ve seen bass masters
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banned from Starbucks posted:Poor Ronnie. Never could catch a break. Then when he does talk and say he thinks he's being followed they ignore him.
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Just a heads up, Spirits Unleashed is fantastic. There are visual options for every single GB era, and oh my god, I can use the RGB gear, which is what Kenner had based their toys on. Like my blue GB trap is in my sons room right now, and I can also use it in the game. If you're a fan like I'm sure we all are, don't sleep on this. The busting is more fun than the 2009 game (and I loved it then), there are customization options out the rear end (someone made Mcready from The Thing), you get to explore the entire firehouse, and playing as the ghost is like a way better version of Haunting Starring Polterguy.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Just a heads up, Spirits Unleashed is fantastic. There are visual options for every single GB era, and oh my god, I can use the RGB gear, which is what Kenner had based their toys on. Like my blue GB trap is in my sons room right now, and I can also use it in the game. Is there a single player option?
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Davros1 posted:Is there a single player option? Yes! Obviously it's better with other people, but all of the other characters can be set as bots, which they are unless people join.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Yes! Obviously it's better with other people, but all of the other characters can be set as bots, which they are unless people join. Cool!
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One very weird thing that's incredibly obvious to those of us here who have seen the first move more times than years we're alive is that all of the musical tracks are sound-alikes from the score. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, because they do a great job, even using the same instruments (like there's an ondes martinot used, and whatever synth creates that.... 'spindly' sound, which appears in the movie as Peter tries to wipe the slime off of his hand in the library). It's all fine, but the theme song, afaik, is missing. Weird given that they've pretty much done a massive deep dive with everything else. Both Extreme Ghostbusters and 2016 are represented. I mean, I was using a haircut that I liked, and it turned out it was Abbie's (Melissa Mccarthy's) hair from AtC  You can even get the tube pompadour that Egon in RGB had, as well as Holtzmann's do. Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 19, 2023 |
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Egon’s RGB hair can’t exist in real life.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Just a heads up, Spirits Unleashed is fantastic. There are visual options for every single GB era, and oh my god, I can use the RGB gear, which is what Kenner had based their toys on. Like my blue GB trap is in my sons room right now, and I can also use it in the game. I know, I've said so multiple times in this thread dammit! Play it every night, it's fun as hell
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Alan_Shore posted:I know, I've said so multiple times in this thread dammit! Play it every night, it's fun as hell It's so good. It's honestly what I wish the 2009 game would've been. Ideally, there'd be the 2009 campaign/story, and then this game as a kind of like constant job/work-like setup, if they were going to be in the same package. I just want to drive the Ecto AND bust ghosts. I can drive it in Rocket League, Burnout Paradise, GTA Online and probably other games, but I want to drive it IN a game.
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Alan_Shore posted:I know, I've said so multiple times in this thread dammit! Play it every night, it's fun as hell You’re convincing me to want to buy it, do goons play it together? I’d be buying it on Xbox, is it cross-play compatible?
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Xenomrph posted:You’re convincing me to want to buy it, do goons play it together? I’d be buying it on Xbox, is it cross-play compatible? It is cross-play compatible, just sign in with your epic account. However, Switch crossplay is currently borked, as they haven't yet pushed out the 1.7.1 update. I assume that'll be fixed soon.
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Hot drat. Does it play well with a mouse and keyboard? I don't do dual analog.
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I'd be down for some crossplay (I'm on Steam Deck). As long as we don't cross the streams
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Alan_Shore posted:I'd be down for some crossplay (I'm on Steam Deck). As long as we don't cross the streams It plays incredibly well on the Deck, especially with using gyro aim, and the back buttons for jumping.
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I'm glad they brought in more customisation in general, I made my character a Kylie Griffin knock off when it launched as every multiplayer game was just a team of giant buff dudes.
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Customisation is all free, I don't even think there's a microtransaction option, although with the caveat that a lot of it is locked behind completing certain tasks. I kinda suspect the score weirdness is to prevent copyright strikes on streamers, but I really like the new score so it's all good. The games great fun if you're into asymmetrical multiplayer, and has some real genuine love for the series. They've recently added customisation options to have your gear look made out of cardboard, with details drawn on, which I'm sure a lot of us had when we were young!
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Garvey posted:
Yeah, there's 'classic' which is from the movies, RGB which also mirrors the toys, Extreme GB gear, 2016 gear with the cyclotron on the top, and then a set that is called 'Fanatical' which looks like a fan put it together. You can see cardboard and some duct tape; it looks incredible. Protip: when you're switching out your gear types (this isn't about the look, but the actual equipment components that change your stats), don't sleep on battery efficiency for your traps, especially if you're playing solo; more often than not, I put a trap down which opens automatically (a piece of gear does that like it's a bonus, but I'm thinking I might want to just open it myself) and while it's open, its battery runs down quickly. The battery recharges when you pull the trap back, but I recommend getting gear that boosts your battery efficiency. The main action loop is: -use PKE meter to find the general direction of a ghost, though if it's a bot, it does an awful job of hiding - throw down a trap - blast them to wrangle them towards the trap, which is already open or you press a button to open it. The main problem is, and I'm speaking as a solo player, but I'll be playing with others soon, is that you'd want to blast a ghost the moment you see one, but while you're blasting, you can't throw a trap. So you'd have to throw one first.... Except a) if the battery sucks and it opens automatically, you should close it right away to save battery power or you won't have a trap, and b) sometimes the ghost moves on very quickly and by the time the trap is down, the ghost is elsewhere. So, this game REALLY benefits from it being a team effort. Like in the ballroom in GB1 and courtroom in GB2. Someone's gotta wrangle, someone's gotta trap. It's much more difficult to 'hold'em yourself'. Also, very important... Your jump isn't great, and you can't even jump onto the Ecto-1's hood, but you CAN jump over the half wall to Venkmann's office, which I do every time I go there. Edit: holy poo poo this game is better with actual people and not pubbies or bots. Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Rewatched Ghostbusters Afterlife this morning after having not seen it since it came out. I I still like it quite a bit? It coasts on nostalgia pretty hard but I felt it smoothed out more on a rewatch. There was still some egregious stuff (the Twinkie in the Ecto-1 glove box was pretty bad) but on the whole I don’t mind it. Even the Gozer retread didn’t really bother me on the rewatch - yeah it could have been neat if they’d done something new, but ultimately I’m okay with it (and it looks like the sequel will deliver on something new anyway). I’m not even bothered by Ray’s “Egon Spengler can burn in hell”, the broader movie context frames it as Egon not explaining it particularly well and suddenly just taking most of the Ghostbusters’ equipment and leaving to parts unknown, essentially singlehandedly killing the Ghostbusters, and I can see how that would rub Ray the wrong way - he also almost immediately softens on his opinion when he hears Egon died, and apologizes to him by the end of the movie. I know resurrecting dead actors is controversial, but I feel the movie did it tastefully and I really don’t have a problem with it, especially since the filmmakers consulted with Ramis’s family and I feel that they gave the proper reverence and care to the character and the actor. But I get why people wouldn’t like it, and that’s okay. I’m just not personally bothered by it. All in all I’m glad I rewatched it, and I’m looking forward to the new movie.
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It stunk but I am legitimately jealous of your ability to enjoy seemingly everything - it'd be a lot more fun than being critical. Afterlife was a lazy rehash in ways that'd make GB2 blush and I'd say is worse than 2016 which was already pretty bad (but for different reasons). I thought it was the nadir of these kind of nostalgia baiting sequel-reboots especially with ghostly Ramis showing up. Laughed when the screenshots first got posted on Twitter it was like when Rise of Skywalker spoilers started getting posted. The trailer for the new one looks awful and the title is terrible. The series - such that it was - died with Ramis as it's nothing without the chemistry between the main three.
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If the next one is good, then I'll retroactively appreciate Afterlife more for at least allowing FE to exist. I absolutely see the critiques of Afterlife and while I don't share them exactly, or at least not as much, I haven't rewatched it since I saw it in theatres. I've watched 1 and 2 a few times since then
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Groovelord Neato posted:It stunk but I am legitimately jealous of your ability to enjoy seemingly everything - it'd be a lot more fun than being critical. Afterlife was a lazy rehash in ways that'd make GB2 blush and I'd say is worse than 2016 which was already pretty bad (but for different reasons). I thought it was the nadir of these kind of nostalgia baiting sequel-reboots especially with ghostly Ramis showing up. Laughed when the screenshots first got posted on Twitter it was like when Rise of Skywalker spoilers started getting posted. Yea, agree with everything here. At this point ghostbusters is a franchise with one nearly perfect movie and 3 movies that are various degrees of awful. Really should have just left the whole thing alone after the original. Imagine if Ferris Bueller had a sequel, a remake, and a reboot. That's how I feel about the gb franchise.
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I don't have to imagine it I do it all the time
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PneumonicBook posted:I don't have to imagine it I do it all the time
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Alan_Shore posted:Imagine calling GB2 awful smh Don’t have to imagine it buddy
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The problem of Ghostbusters is, straightforwardly, that it's about ghosts. The ghosts are specifically a manifestation of New York City's collective bad mood coming out of the 1970s, which is fought with 'empty' pop-patriotic spectacle by these libertarian conmen-turned-entertainers. The story is "let's put on a show!" - but there's only so many times that you can douse the mean ol' government agent in liquid sugar before the concept runs up against its limitations. Ghostbusters 2, in its redundancy, states outright that baby Oscar will grow up to be the antichrist unless these children's entertainers (literally birthday clowns) descend as guardian angels to teach him Liberty. What sort of Liberty are we talking about, here? Ghostbusters 3 was consequently about the vital importance of introducing your kids to this Reagan-era sex comedy because...? Ghostbusters is still relevant, baby!
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SatansOnion posted:"sex comedy"? Please don't encourage him
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SatansOnion posted:"sex comedy"? they're pretty horny movies, that's far from the only sex joke. it's not porky's or whatever if that's your line but the sanctity of the sex comedy label probably isn't worth defending
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