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What are you gonna do about it?? Vote for Trump?
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yeah, maybe i will
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Nov 19, 2023 19:12
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Willa Rogers posted:and by "ran" they meant "old-man shuffled" Dems desperately pretending Biden is Dick Proenneke
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Nov 19, 2023 19:14
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"listen the party already opposed a bunch of issues where 80% of democratic voters support the issue, therefore opposing another one can't hurt!"
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Nov 19, 2023 19:14
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imagine thinking this when the turning point for biden's upside-down approvals was the fubar pullout from afghanistanquote:Israel-Palestine is not going to be a major issue in the 2024 election. Foreign policy never is. Biden isn't doing well in the polls because of poll respondents who say Biden is to their left and support Trump. 
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Nov 19, 2023 19:15
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I hardly think Biden should be held responsible for his decline in youth approval, since most of that number is just because his glut of lovely kids keeps dying.
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bawk posted:y'know just once i'd like to see a syq where the links get switched out. just slip a ytmnd link or something in there instead I was on phone and lazy but yeah good idea that would have been good. Pretend I linked to epic geordi roll
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B B posted:here you go, pal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcaaIvJPjYI cant believe norm finkelstein is one of those evil misogynists who thinks porn addiction is real
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Nov 19, 2023 19:23
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Trabisnikof posted:The “rightful pandas” thing is extra insane to me because like this was always the term of the contract, this is just the rules based international order in action. us special forces HALO jumping into a bamboo forest to spermjack some pandas
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Nov 19, 2023 19:31
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WampaLord posted:I was on phone and lazy but yeah good idea that would have been good. Pretend I linked to epic geordi roll aw yeah, that's the stuff
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Nov 19, 2023 19:42
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Willa Rogers posted:imagine thinking this when the turning point for biden's upside-down approvals was the fubar pullout from afghanistan Wow sounds like those centrist voters are gonna fumble the election to Trump!!!! Can't trust em. Better move left
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Nov 19, 2023 19:56
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It turns out that any and every event is just an indication that the Dems should move right, who'd have thought
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Nov 19, 2023 19:56
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Willa Rogers posted:and like clockwork the succers respond lol
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Nov 19, 2023 19:59
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Biden to the left of me Hitler to the right Here I am Posting in CSPAM with you
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Nov 19, 2023 20:01
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WampaLord posted:Going by polling averages this looks like a completely normal result... not sure where I'm supposed to be seeing a "free fall"? (e: Actually pretty impressive how closely the NBC poll graph tracks the polling average graph.) I don't doubt that it's in a bit of a slide right now but everything about Trump and Biden's terms suggests it will bounce back up and generally linger in the high-30s, mid-40s. If somebody is, for whatever reason, hoping for some kind of W-esque bottom falling out, they should not hold their breaths.
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Nov 19, 2023 20:02
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Willa Rogers posted:and like clockwork the succers respond Why would they protest 99% hitler when 98% hitler is closer to their goals?
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Nov 19, 2023 20:11
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2% Hitler sounds like they took out 98% of the Hitler, but actually whole Hitler is 4%
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Nov 19, 2023 20:20
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Willa Rogers posted:and like clockwork the succers respond They really love to say “but what about the GOP?” when people want to hold Democrats accountable. You bring up how the Democrats failed to codify Roe, they’ll say that it’s really the GOP’s fault even tho the Dems were in power. They also individualize the Democrats when it comes to the things that are bad or they fail to pass something. So it’s specifically Manchin’s or Sinema’s faults but not the whole party. But they’ll demand that you vote for the Democrats at the same time simply because they’re Democrats. Assessing whether or not a democrat is bad is alright but the party as a whole deserves your vote.
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Nov 19, 2023 20:34
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gradenko_2000 posted:Lol Nixon was the most progressive president since FDR and yet people hate him because of the media narrative Will Stancil spotted
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Genocide Joe? Bombin' Brandon!
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https://twitter.com/SocDemLad/status/1725897433882734655 https://twitter.com/PogFishPoster/status/1726079254788452833
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No such thing as "illegal" migration. All people have, or should have, the right to freely move from one point on a map to another.
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Nov 19, 2023 20:55
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"Why not protest the Republicans?" strikes me as an especially stupid retort because that kind of nonviolent protest, to me, is a hopeful action. You protest the people you think can be convinced. People protest the Dems because they think the Dems might agree with their position. Saying "Go protest Republicans instead" is telling us they can't be convinced. Edit: Cleaned up the wording, realized I was accidentally implying protest was bad/pointless. Protests are good. SixteenShells has issued a correction as of 21:01 on Nov 19, 2023 |
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Nov 19, 2023 20:55
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The dismissive attitude towards people screaming at you to stop the genocide fits real well with all the mealy mouthed talk in the press about our fight to "preserve democracy".
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Nov 19, 2023 21:00
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theCalamity posted:Assessing whether or not a democrat is bad is alright but the party as a whole deserves your vote. history is banned so there is no way to check if that is true you just gotta vote
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Nov 19, 2023 21:00
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People protesting the Democratic platform should be a good thing: it means they are persuadable voters that you could get on your side by negotiating with them. If they gave up on you and went to try to influence the GOP instead that would a bad sign. It's like when those activists asked Hillary to stop supporting bad things and instead of hearing them out went "oh well why don't you run for office then if you think you know better", do they want votes or not.
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Nov 19, 2023 21:00
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They don't want votes or negotiation; they want subjects.
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Nov 19, 2023 21:01
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SixteenShells posted:"Why not protest the Republicans?" strikes me as an especially stupid retort because that kind of nonviolent protest, to me, is a hopeful action. You protest the people you think can be convinced. People protest the Dems because they mistakenly think the Dems might agree with their position. It makes sense if you think of protesting as moral absolution. You protest not as part of a theory of change, but because protesting means you no longer have moral culpability for benefiting from the system that does the things you protest.
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don't boo, vote
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One part Hitler, two parts Franz Von Papen, add salt to taste.
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Vim Fuego posted:Biden to the left of me I appreciate you for sticking to the correct number of syllables and their relative emphasis in your parody lyrics 
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VitalSigns posted:do they want votes or not. That’s another thing. The Sems themselves don’t employ the vote shaming. They’ll say vote for me if you agree with me and if you don’t, don’t vote for me. But the diehards will shout at you for daring not to vote for the people who told you not to vote for them. They’ll place the well-being of every marginalized person at the voter’s feet, but will not do the same to the Democrats who hold a lot more power. They never votescold the democrats
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loquacius posted:It turns out that any and every event is just an indication that the Dems should move right, who'd have thought it’s just smart politics! except all the times that it didn’t work. which are the fault of the perfidious, massive and real organized left, which must be punished.
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theCalamity posted:That’s another thing. The Sems themselves don’t employ the vote shaming. They’ll say vote for me if you agree with me and if you don’t, don’t vote for me. But the diehards will shout at you for daring not to vote for the people who told you not to vote for them. libs are all temporarily-embarrassed dnc staffers in their own minds
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theCalamity posted:That’s another thing. The Sems themselves don’t employ the vote shaming. They’ll say vote for me if you agree with me and if you don’t, don’t vote for me. But the diehards will shout at you for daring not to vote for the people who told you not to vote for them. That’s the inverse relationship between power and moral responsibility at play. The more powerful you are, the less responsible for your actions you become, as compromise must be made to retain that power. While if you’re not powerful, you must be morally pure as you don’t have a justification for your moral mistakes.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:The dismissive attitude towards people screaming at you to stop the genocide fits real well with all the mealy mouthed talk in the press about our fight to "preserve democracy". I wish feinstein was still alive, she could dismiss young leftists with the best of em
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:I appreciate you for sticking to the correct number of syllables and their relative emphasis in your parody lyrics 
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Scarabrae posted:What are you gonna do about it?? Vote for Trump? Some people are just too morally pure to prevent the guy who’s going to make being queer carry the death penalty from being president.
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0 rows returned posted:yeah, i will
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ex post facho posted:Some people are just too morally pure to prevent the guy who’s going to make being queer carry the death penalty from being president. nice strawman
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