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new Orikan mini is great but where is Trazyn? we've gotta have both of the frenemies
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Cooked Auto posted:I can only imagine Goonhammer has the rant from the index card release ready to be reposted. admech got a big lift in the dataslate, taking them from the basement to firmly middling at least. their datasheets and army abilities are essentially fine in the abstract. they just have some problems. first off, rad-cohort isn't great. obviously the detachment rule is worthless but also the stratagems make this army very CP-hungry, but there's very little CP support in the datasheets. i'm doubtful they'd put strong CP generation in the same detachment as strong strats (although they did it with CSM, lol), but at least new detachments will probably be better than this one. the other problem is that tau and votann already exist and are playing a very similar game. they were also in bad shape before the dataslate and got comparable pickups. so unless you're dying to play an army made entirely of faberge eggs or max out your cost savings by 3D printing, you have other options to get a similar playstyle. and i don't think the codex can practically fix that. Texmo posted:new Orikan mini is great but where is Trazyn? we've gotta have both of the frenemies they are putting four overlord models up for presale next week, i think we can have a breather Cease to Hope fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Nov 20, 2023 00:49
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Is taking a command squad in every squad of 20 guard stupid or rad? I'd also give them a commissar, psyker or castellan because why the hell not. In my head 20 guys with a lieutenant level officer in the command squad and a specialist/captain makes sense and feels cool even though it's probably bad. E: I envision running three squads of twenty guys one day.
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Nov 20, 2023 01:08
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The standard Cadian platoon is 30 plus command squad, possibly attached to one of them. Two squads of twenty plus a ten squad with command attached seem better to me though. The officer can give orders to the two squads, with the 5 point buff, and his squad gets whatever the command specials bring. The ten Leman Russ per company seems a bit rich to me though. Lostconfused fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Nov 20, 2023 |
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Nov 20, 2023 01:25
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Lostconfused posted:The standard Cadian platoon is 30 plus command squad, possibly attached to one of them. Two squads of twenty plus a ten squad with command attached seem better to me though. The officer can give orders to the two squads, with the 5 point buff, and his squad gets whatever the command specials bring. Cool thanks for this. This is actually a more fun structure than what I was cooking up. I'm going to grab the Christmas box to start. I'd like to build to a company eventually and using 30 + command squad will get me there. I just want a cool thematic looking army more than anything that performs out of it's skin, but also don't want it to be dogshit.
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Nov 20, 2023 01:30
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I’m going to buy a Stiltman idc Edit: I painted some gross little grotlings 
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Nov 20, 2023 01:43
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JBP posted:Is taking a command squad in every squad of 20 guard stupid or rad? I'd also give them a commissar, psyker or castellan because why the hell not. It's awesome. Infantry squad - 18 guardsman and 2 heavy weapon teams paired with a command squad with a heavy weapon team 3 heavy weaps plus two special weapons and if you're touching an objective you have cover with their special rule (20 men you can string out pretty far) and with a primaris psker you can give them a 4+ invulnerable save. 27 wounds, 4+ invuln, 6+ feel no pain, pretty good.
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Nov 20, 2023 02:02
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Tangy Zizzle posted:It's awesome. Infantry squad - 18 guardsman and 2 heavy weapon teams paired with a command squad with a heavy weapon team See this is what I was thinking of doing but I couldn't reconcile whether it was dumb or cool. I think both set-ups are cool and I can always try out the ten or twenty man command elements anyway. The psyker option seems borderline crazy along with FNP.
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Nov 20, 2023 03:13
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Oh right, Space Marines don't have the stormtrooper helmets anymore. Ok, I'm a lot less interested in them now.
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Nov 20, 2023 04:31
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And why do Necron heads look like Woll Smoth meme.
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Nov 20, 2023 04:57
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And this has to be one of the most impressive models GW is showing off on their website.
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Nov 20, 2023 05:16
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You should check out the AoS range, it's where they go to stretch their legs.
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Nov 20, 2023 05:46
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JBP posted:You should check out the AoS range, it's where they go to stretch their legs. Yeah AoS are incredible works of art, i wish i was more a fan of fantasy i woildve gone whole hog on it. I hope 40k eventually reaches that level, there are really promising signs with the new asmodai, Orikan, etc that theyre gonna go for more flair.
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Nov 20, 2023 07:36
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Redacted? Is it finally my boy Fulgrim’s time to shine?
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CottonWolf posted:Redacted? Is it finally my boy Fulgrim’s time to shine?
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Lostconfused posted:The standard Cadian platoon is 30 plus command squad, possibly attached to one of them. Two squads of twenty plus a ten squad with command attached seem better to me though. The officer can give orders to the two squads, with the 5 point buff, and his squad gets whatever the command specials bring. A real life tank company in the US of Russia already has more than ten tanks, just ten seems pretty tame by imperium standards
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Nov 20, 2023 10:25
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Mercurius posted:It would be kind of nice for them to drop EC halfway through the cycle instead of at the end like World Eaters. We all know it's coming and by that point everyone will probably have moved on from resin Fulgrim so having a plastic one isn't such a bad idea. Also, there’s still a non-zero chance they dump demons as it’s own codex, and when bringing in EC move to Slaanesh, Khorne, Tzeetch and Nurgle codices, with each containing the mono-god armies and their demons. That would make a more interesting “Redacted” reveal.
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Nov 20, 2023 11:10
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Bohemian Nights posted:Visited family and brought back a lot of my older mid 2000s-era stunties, some of which I'll probably strip and dismantle for bits, some others I'll repaint like my classic box dreadnaught. Overall they're better than I expected them to be, but a lot of these guys spent more than a decade dusting down in a store display, and I think the grime and dust has permanently set into the plastic Goddamn the texturing on this one is AMAZING.
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Nov 20, 2023 11:29
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Wow the review goonhammer did for legionis imperialis is really scathing, looks like this isnt the return to epic people were hoping for https://www.goonhammer.com/legions-imperialis-system-review/
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Nov 20, 2023 12:33
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I wouldn't exactly call that review scathing. It points out the system has flaws but still concedes that the game is still good but just missing a bit of zazz.
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Nov 20, 2023 13:08
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It's got the jarring messaging of things said in a contrasting tone. Like when the guy who hates horror movies gets sent to review a slasher. Which is fine, I suppose. All the words are legible on the page and form sentences. Some readers might prefer an ambiguous and non-committal review, even if others are saddened by its ultimate meaninglessness.
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Nov 20, 2023 13:28
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So I did find a way to add a smidge of color. Maybe not an in your face and obvious contrast, but! First one is on the left, latest on the right:   I had a color from Army Painter called "Field Gray", which is that greenish-gray on the bedroll and gloves. As stated, not in your face and obvious, but helps break up the monotony a bit. The biggest thing I'm noticing is my confidence is growing while painting. The more models I do, the more confident I get, and it's also practice. e: also yeah, gotta get better at trimming the gates off, which I am! I think.
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Nov 20, 2023 13:33
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moths posted:It's got the jarring messaging of things said in a contrasting tone. Like when the guy who hates horror movies gets sent to review a slasher. The gameplay complaints seem fair, but it's weird to start the review with three paragraphs that boil down to "a lot of people won't like this because it's Horus Heresy Only". iospace posted:So I did find a way to add a smidge of color. Maybe not an in your face and obvious contrast, but! Looks good! I like the brighter white on the first one though, it adds a little more contrast. A final highlight of white on the second one would bring it back up.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Looks good! I like the brighter white on the first one though, it adds a little more contrast. A final highlight of white on the second one would bring it back up. Thanks, and highlights are the next thing I'm going to try tackling! Right now getting the main steps down is my big focus. I did switch the armor to an off-white for ease of painting (and thinning things down) though, with a gray wash because the gunpla builder in me was crying at using a brown wash for white armor.
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Nov 20, 2023 13:37
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Texmo posted:new Orikan mini is great but where is Trazyn? we've gotta have both of the frenemies I am loving livid
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/20/the-adeptus-mechanicus-unearth-stcs-for-new-detachment-rules/ Our first AdMech codex preview has been uploaded to the noosphere for your perusal.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The gameplay complaints seem fair, but it's weird to start the review with three paragraphs that boil down to "a lot of people won't like this because it's Horus Heresy Only". It's absolutely a valid criticism because a lot of people, myself included, find the Heresy shockingly boring, which sharply limits who this game is for. If this was just a new 40k epic I'd probably be in but I have zero interest in playing Space Marine Fight, the game where everyone plays the same space marines and every game is a mirror match, now with more but smaller space marines.
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I know I’m a wet blanket, but I vastly preferred when the Heresy was a huge event that took place so long ago that fact mixes with fiction. Things are much better when they’re murky, but I know that fans demand clarity and specifics.
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Nov 20, 2023 15:14
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Geisladisk posted:It's absolutely a valid criticism because a lot of people, myself included, find the Heresy shockingly boring, which sharply limits who this game is for. That's fine but it is not really a criticism to look at a Horus Heresy game and go "it's the heresy, booooring" I don't watch Saving Private Ryan and go "seems fine but I'm more interested in the napoleonic wars"
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Professor Shark posted:I know I’m a wet blanket, but I vastly preferred when the Heresy was a huge event that took place so long ago that fact mixes with fiction. Things are much better when they’re murky, but I know that fans demand clarity and specifics. This. Also, Edgar Allen Ho posted:I don't watch Saving Private Ryan and go "seems fine but I'm more interested in the napoleonic wars" I did
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Professor Shark posted:I know I’m a wet blanket, but I vastly preferred when the Heresy was a huge event that took place so long ago that fact mixes with fiction. Things are much better when they’re murky, but I know that fans demand clarity and specifics. The curse of expanded universes essentially. And thanks to a shipping gently caress up (I got a chewed up and empty letter with an apology note) I now need to figure out how to do a decent Craftworld/Eldar base, because the ones I won at an auction last week are now gone. Uuuuuuuuugh.
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Geisladisk posted:It's absolutely a valid criticism because a lot of people, myself included, find the Heresy shockingly boring, which sharply limits who this game is for. It is but it didn't need three paragraphs to say it.
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Thread, I need some advice. I've got several hundred dollars of unpainted figures I don't really like, and I'm tempted to buy more but I'm worried I'll just end up feeling the same way? I tried to get back into the hobby in the run - up to 10th edition, and I ended up buying the Horus Heresy and Levithan boxes. This makes it pretty easy to build up to 2k points in various ways, but I'm finding I don't have any passion for most of the figures. It's a combination of me not actually liking either the aesthetic of either 30k or Primaris. So I've got 40 legionaries that are sort of neat but I don't love their heresy-pattern shoulder pads and bolt guns, I've got a contemptor dread I think looks dumb, the devastators I made have the problem of being a neglected unit nowadays, etc. Most of the Levithan box I like, but that's a much smaller force, so I'd have to purchase quite a few boxes to get back up to 2k points. There's also the problem that I don't like most of the modern Primaris line, so I'm worried the entire army just may not be the best choice for me any more - I love the new Levithan Captain, Terminator, and Sternguard, and I think the Bladeguard are awesome, but I struggle to find a full 2k in space marines I'd really love. On the one hand I tell myself I've already spent a lot of money on figures I haven't painted, and I should just paint what I have and then see how I feel when that's done. I'm not exaggerating to say that I must have a years worth of painting here, there's plenty to do. But on the other hand, aside from most of the Levithan Box I don't actually like most of what I have, and I'm tempted to start over with another faction. I'm not made of money but I'm an adult, with an adult's recreational income, and I certainly could start on another faction, it just feels wasteful. Which faction I'd play is another issue, I'll set that aside for now. I want to play 40k, or at least I think I do, but last weekend I looked at my figures and said "man I don't even want to paint half this poo poo" and start looking at what it would cost to spin up another Faction to 1k. So what do you think thread, where is the sunk cost fallacy, in assembling, painting, and all the hobbying with figures I don't like, or in buying a new army for a game I've played twice since 10th came out?
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Play Kill Team or Combat Patrol then I'd say. Not to mention, you can just play 1500 point games too, anything lower thought you're going to have an awkward time. And then sell whatever you don't want, there's always someone who needs some extra marines.
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If you don't think it's fun, don't do it imo. Personally I hate the hassle of selling stuff, but if you can then yeah do it with the stuff you don't like. I don't like a lot of the new minis games-workshop has on sale either to be quiet honest. Maybe give the other armies another look and see if anything strikes your fancy. And while I'm grousing about the Astra Militarum/Imperial Guards a lot, I'm also tempted to run out and buy a bunch of minis at the same time, and paint all the tiny little buckles and straps on them that nobody else will see. Also I guess I have the benefit of not playing the game yet, so I just want to put together an army that looks cool on paper and when posed together, rather than competitive on the table.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:The gameplay complaints seem fair, but it's weird to start the review with three paragraphs that boil down to "a lot of people won't like this because it's Horus Heresy Only". The xenos aeronautica models have me convinced that LI will get a 40k update if the line does well for a couple years
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Improbable Lobster posted:The xenos aeronautica models have me convinced that LI will get a 40k update if the line does well for a couple years I'm fairly skeptical of this. They'd have to update the marines to 40k standards, plus create an entire guard faction for a second time. Far more likely we just get orks and eldar added to LI in the 30k setting, if that.
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Al-Saqr posted:Wow the review goonhammer did for legionis imperialis is really scathing, looks like this isnt the return to epic people were hoping for Wow it's crazy to me that they soft poo poo-canned 40K aeronautica imperialis and just wholesale rolled it into LI. I didn't know they did that until reading it mentioned in the review. I always thought that game and the various Xenos fighters looked cool as hell.
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Virtual Russian posted:I'm fairly skeptical of this. They'd have to update the marines to 40k standards, plus create an entire guard faction for a second time. Far more likely we just get orks and eldar added to LI in the 30k setting, if that. It would be easy enough to add Orks, just do a "WAR OF THE BEAST" or "ULLANOR CRUSADE" addon. Comedy option for Tyranids; add them as Mega-Arachnids
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Considering GW's previous track record with "larger" scale games, I'm not putting much faith into there being a 40k version. Unless LI does remarkably well, but that remains to be seen.Virtual Russian posted:I'm fairly skeptical of this. They'd have to update the marines to 40k standards, plus create an entire guard faction for a second time. Far more likely we just get orks and eldar added to LI in the 30k setting, if that. One personal theory I have as to why they went with 30k with this, outside of it just being compartmentalised to lessen the blow if it fails, is that they had all of the units available in digital form. Something which made shrinking them down to LI scales easier, but they don't have the same availability for some 40k units.
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