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S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Evil Kit posted:

You don't even click, you just hover over the stat itself with the cursor. Idk, seems intuitive to me but then again I miss some obvious poo poo in puzzles or navigation in games.

Still, genuinely surprised so many people in the thread didn't know.

I just don't remember seeing anything about it in the patch notes, and I expect FS stuff to just be forever obscure until someone datamines something, I guess.

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Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

S.J. posted:

I just don't remember seeing anything about it in the patch notes, and I expect FS stuff to just be forever obscure until someone datamines something, I guess.

it's been an option in the game since pretty early on when they finally revamped that screen to provide actual information and detailed weapon attack breakdowns. It was one of the first big QoL changes Fatshark did.


Go back into the game armed with this knowledge and make some sick af weapons goons.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Evil Kit posted:

it's been an option in the game since pretty early on when they finally revamped that screen to provide actual information and detailed weapon attack breakdowns. It was one of the first big QoL changes Fatshark did.


Go back into the game armed with this knowledge and make some sick af weapons goons.

So I'm looking at some of my other melee weapons right now and attack speed isn't listed under any of the stats for certain weapons, so I guess it's weapon specific anyways!

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


I think they curate which weapons have what stats in that way since the slow hammers having attack speed variables makes sense but also the combat knife seems to have three stats that enhance damage to make it stab extra good. Why does a knife have "first target" like its gonna cleave anything?

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Nehru the Damaja posted:

lol that's one plasma shot

I assume the icons spammed at the bottom are "hey your shot went through a dude?"



I am loving the absurd number of enemies lately lmao

https://twitch.tv/videos/1982043697

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





hell yeah revolver

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

S.J. posted:

So I'm looking at some of my other melee weapons right now and attack speed isn't listed under any of the stats for certain weapons, so I guess it's weapon specific anyways!

correct. While you can generally get an idea what a particularly named stat will do you should always check what it does on any given weapon.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Enjoy posted:

I am loving the absurd number of enemies lately lmao

https://twitch.tv/videos/1982043697

I am enjoying rounding a corner and bumping into 6 reapers and 12 ragers (not sarcastic the fights are great)

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Internet Explorer posted:

hell yeah revolver

The revolver is the best quick swap weapon, the best elite killer, and the best long distance weapon. Trying out other weapons makes everything feel bad.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
Had to detour into a tiny back area to avoid a daemonhost (second one in a very short time. At one point i could hear both gibbering to themselves) and had a fight that was

2 trappers
2 crushers
2 ragers (at least? I only saw two)
2 or 3 maulers (things were hectic at this point)
2 bombers (i never saw these but i saw their grenades. To be clear i saw two grenades at once not just assuming since one bomber can feel like two if he wants to be a gently caress)
A hunting dog pack
And a plague ogryn.

And their accoutrements.


The warning we had that this was going to begin was the plague ogryn roaring. We did not survive.

Alternatively on the run before it i never saw one monstrosity and only gunners really.

In conclusion the director is loving schizo atm


Edit: i did have a run before that in which three purgatus psykers were on the team and loving lol was that a breeze. The purgatus psykers with domes and shrieks backed up by a shield ogryn might just be an unkillable team

ZeusCannon fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Nov 20, 2023

Estel
May 4, 2010
It's true that the game director must be bugged but also it's really funny going into a low intensity game, turning a corner and finding a ball of death made by 8 ragers and 6 crushers while a horde is pushing from behind.

Then the 2 flamers and 2 bombers fall from a hole in the ceiling.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
Damnation really sucks right now, level 4 is actually pretty fun. It's intense, but not "you can't move because there are too many enemies" intense.

Dealing with 4 exploders in a row is just tedious.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
"What's this about another hive city!?"

Gee I dunno, Veteran. The name Tertium wasn't enough to tip you off that there's multiple hives?

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

ninjoatse.cx posted:

Damnation really sucks right now, level 4 is actually pretty fun. It's intense, but not "you can't move because there are too many enemies" intense.

Dealing with 4 exploders in a row is just tedious.

Yeah Heresy is my go-to casual game mode right now. I could PUG Damnation without much difficulty before but it's a complete and total crapshoot right now. My weapons are just about perfect on my zealot so I don't really know what more I can do gear-wise. It's doable with a group of reliable friends about 1/2 to 3/4 of the time but with randos it's just not happening right now, it's too frustrating.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

Arc Hammer posted:

"What's this about another hive city!?"

Gee I dunno, Veteran. The name Tertium wasn't enough to tip you off that there's multiple hives?

Does that imply the most important hive city is called Premium

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Enjoy posted:

Does that imply the most important hive city is called Premium

Where do you think the Harowette gets her cosmetics

thalweg
Aug 26, 2019

im not sure what it is, but the only people that have used voice chat in my games so far have been total dicks. almost everyone else has been chill

FurtherReading
Sep 4, 2007

I started playing this after bouncing off the beta and I'm having a blast. I feel I made a huge mistake choosing the ogryn voice that isn't the ex-military guy though.

I'm having a lot of fun with a thunder hammer zealot too. I decided I want the eyepatch cosmetic so I'm currently trying to stun grenade as many enemies as possible every run. I need to figure out a proper build once I've got that unlocked.

One quick question - what exactly does the special melee attack on the thunder hammer do? Is it just extra damage on the next swing?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Well I can't even finish a malice mission now. Nothing but ragers or sixteen shotgunners.

Edit.

As if to prove my point literally the first group of enemies I just faced on a wipe were eight shotgunners a crusher and then three trappers on a row.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Nov 20, 2023

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

Further Reading posted:

I started playing this after bouncing off the beta and I'm having a blast. I feel I made a huge mistake choosing the ogryn voice that isn't the ex-military guy though.

I'm having a lot of fun with a thunder hammer zealot too. I decided I want the eyepatch cosmetic so I'm currently trying to stun grenade as many enemies as possible every run. I need to figure out a proper build once I've got that unlocked.

One quick question - what exactly does the special melee attack on the thunder hammer do? Is it just extra damage on the next swing?

for the Crucis it powers up your attack to do a metric shitload of damage to the next enemy you hit. Just the one though.

megane
Jun 20, 2008



Further Reading posted:

One quick question - what exactly does the special melee attack on the thunder hammer do? Is it just extra damage on the next swing?
Yeah, it makes your next attack cause a huge explosion that does lots of damage and stagger and is highly effective against armor.

The Ironhelm hammer’s version will only go off on “real” targets, but the Crucis will go off on the first thing it hits even if that’s a trash zombie.

Pesterchum
Nov 8, 2009

clown car to hell choo choo
I was doing an uprising mission to carry a friend who was new to the game and we ran into twelve snipers over the course of the map which seemed a touch excessive

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

If you'd all just start being lovely at the game these things wouldn't happen okay

Reiley
Dec 16, 2007


ninjoatse.cx posted:

The revolver is the best quick swap weapon, the best elite killer, and the best long distance weapon. Trying out other weapons makes everything feel bad.

ninjoatse.cx posted:

Damnation really sucks right now, level 4 is actually pretty fun. It's intense, but not "you can't move because there are too many enemies" intense.

Dealing with 4 exploders in a row is just tedious.

The revolver is almost too good but it feels like it hits a cliff when you have to kill too many big problems at once. Not to say that this is your situation but the two posts back to back make a pretty good case for exploring guns with more than five bullets in them.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



One of my friends is new to the game and decided to start off with a psyker. He's good enough with general FPS basics that I don't need to babysit him, but at <10 levels, his character doesn't have enough mojo to contribute to the team effectively yet, beyond crowd control and a lasgun. Thus, we've been playing Malice until he levels into better gear and talents.

Malice seems like a bizarre middle ground now where it's a mix of two extremes. Players who clearly know what they're doing and presumably are just there to level up their new alts, but also players who are completely inept and need to be carried the whole way, while they do their best to fall off ledges or run toward snipers. Bad enough that I can't even blame the AI director for their issues, because they'd still get wrecked pre-patch.

thalweg posted:

im not sure what it is, but the only people that have used voice chat in my games so far have been total dicks. almost everyone else has been chill

Weirdly enough, I've had the opposite experience.

I hardly ever drop into a game where pubbies use voice chat, but when I do, they're extremely cordial.

Whether or not any given voice pubbie can effectively communicate with regard to the mission is a crapshoot, but at least they've all been polite.

tbf I'm in one of the Pacific server/matchmaking regions, so maybe it's different in Europe or North America.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
Early psyker is pain.

megane
Jun 20, 2008



The Psyker staves unlock in pretty much the exact opposite order they should. You get Trauma (the hardest to use) first, and Purgatus (the easiest) last.

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Arc Light posted:

One of my friends is new to the game and decided to start off with a psyker. He's good enough with general FPS basics that I don't need to babysit him, but at <10 levels, his character doesn't have enough mojo to contribute to the team effectively yet, beyond crowd control and a lasgun. Thus, we've been playing Malice until he levels into better gear and talents.

Malice seems like a bizarre middle ground now where it's a mix of two extremes. Players who clearly know what they're doing and presumably are just there to level up their new alts, but also players who are completely inept and need to be carried the whole way, while they do their best to fall off ledges or run toward snipers. Bad enough that I can't even blame the AI director for their issues, because they'd still get wrecked pre-patch.

Weirdly enough, I've had the opposite experience.

I hardly ever drop into a game where pubbies use voice chat, but when I do, they're extremely cordial.

Whether or not any given voice pubbie can effectively communicate with regard to the mission is a crapshoot, but at least they've all been polite.

tbf I'm in one of the Pacific server/matchmaking regions, so maybe it's different in Europe or North America.

I think I've encountered a pub with VC like 3 times and they've been chill every time but it is the internet so (I'm NA)

Evil Kit
May 29, 2013

I'm viable ladies.

Just say "No" to scab patrols.


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...8344f906724472&

Goddamn the frag bomb is satisfying.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

A 20 with blue weapons joined our STG Damnation.

I knew what would happen but played it anyway because I'm trying to farm rescues to finish that penance.

We lost, as was etched in stone, but I got like 9 rescues.

(Fatshark for gently caress's sake do something about this)

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

Nehru the Damaja posted:

A 20 with blue weapons joined our STG Damnation.

I knew what would happen but played it anyway because I'm trying to farm rescues to finish that penance.

We lost, as was etched in stone, but I got like 9 rescues.

(Fatshark for gently caress's sake do something about this)

You know the whole time they were thinking 'god everyone else in here sucks but me'

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
It's not the sub-30's that bother me, it's those with a fresh 30 with 2 blessings between their 2 weapons that still struggle to 1vs1 a poxwalker I'm just asking myself "why did they queue up for auric maelstrom with 6 modifiers?"

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015

I love you Dr. Zaius



I joined an in progress 'low intensity' level 4 mission with 2 people down. The survivor and I fended off a giant wave of specialists and poxwalkers and tried to advance when about a dozen ragers ran around the corner with several tox flamers behind. Yeesh.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
just had a 19 ogryn who kept trying to block crusher overheads, gunners, and snipers with their shield. tbh it was a miracle they didn't die more than twice the entire game, and even a bad shield ogryn is still a decent anchor compared to a bad zealot

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I just had an Auric Damnation match with 2 brainburst psychers and it was painful.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Needed to be Assail instead!

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

toasterwarrior posted:

just had a 19 ogryn who kept trying to block crusher overheads, gunners, and snipers with their shield. tbh it was a miracle they didn't die more than twice the entire game, and even a bad shield ogryn is still a decent anchor compared to a bad zealot

There should be a loading screen tip that says "in 99% of situations, deploying the shield does nothing"

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Brain Burst is still desperately in need of a buff

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009
"More ranged enemies than usual"

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tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



Internet Explorer posted:

I just had an Auric Damnation match with 2 brainburst psychers and it was painful.

Brain burst is fine if you are using it to proc faster cool downs and other warp charge effects. It's pretty poop if you are actively using the ability though (which is lol of course).

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