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Yes, you are hurting the content creator's™ feelings and future
No, youtube is infringing on my rights with anti-ad blocker ads
Just click out and suck it up OP lmfao
I watch videos on dailymotion instead
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dervival
Apr 23, 2014

removing features is a feature

(no poo poo, that's a line I had to say at work more than once when scoping out tasks :v:)

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staberind
Feb 20, 2008

but i dont wanna be a spaceship
Fun Shoe

dervival posted:

removing features is a feature

(no poo poo, that's a line I had to say at work more than once when scoping out tasks :v:)

My M2F friend deffo appreciated it.

Bertha the Toaster
Jan 11, 2009
Apparently YouTube adds a 5 second delay to the loading time if you're running Firefox. Because that's a perfectly normal, none evil thing to do.

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/k9w3ei4/

Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms

Bertha the Toaster posted:

Apparently YouTube adds a 5 second delay to the loading time if you're running Firefox. Because that's a perfectly normal, none evil thing to do.

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/k9w3ei4/

Hah that's funny, I've been experiencing that. Google having a normal one.

busalover
Sep 12, 2020

Bertha the Toaster posted:

Apparently YouTube adds a 5 second delay to the loading time if you're running Firefox. Because that's a perfectly normal, none evil thing to do.

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/k9w3ei4/

That's nuts.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


"Don't be evil" has not only been removed from the company code of conduct, they're also seeking to make amends for the number of years it was in there for

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Next, videos on Firefox play backwards

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
So cool that we ceded the monopoly over all new technologies and services to these stable genius corporations

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Bertha the Toaster posted:

Apparently YouTube adds a 5 second delay to the loading time if you're running Firefox. Because that's a perfectly normal, none evil thing to do.

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/k9w3ei4/
From the comments it sounds folks are saying it's lazy code who's job is to make sure an ad is up for 5 seconds.

Bertha the Toaster
Jan 11, 2009

Croccers posted:

From the comments it sounds folks are saying it's lazy code who's job is to make sure an ad is up for 5 seconds.

Why does the code not appear if you pretend to be Chrome then?

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Magnetic North posted:

Hah that's funny, I've been experiencing that. Google having a normal one.

Same here, was wondering what that was all about :lol: might as well just rebrand the company AntiTrust at this point

AutismVaccine
Feb 26, 2017


SPECIAL NEEDS
SQUAD

peachy... posted:

Firefox + ublock + noscript. I will never see a website again

+PrivacyBadger for good measure

Bertha the Toaster posted:

Apparently YouTube adds a 5 second delay to the loading time if you're running Firefox. Because that's a perfectly normal, none evil thing to do.

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/k9w3ei4/

I thought my internet router was to blame, gently caress you google


e: Thanks Reddit, filter rule works for me

www.youtube.com##+js(nano-stb, resolve(1), *, 0.001)

AutismVaccine fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 20, 2023

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Bertha the Toaster posted:

Why does the code not appear if you pretend to be Chrome then?
You read through this nerd crap and figure it out
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/ka08uqj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

There's no doubt that Google is up to poo poo for sure, but Firefox and Gamer GX don't have a 5 second pause atm on my PC so :shrug:

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Bertha the Toaster posted:

Apparently YouTube adds a 5 second delay to the loading time if you're running Firefox. Because that's a perfectly normal, none evil thing to do.

https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/k9w3ei4/

oh so thats whats been happening.

certainlly makes searching through OST and other music playlists annoying but its not gamebreaking.

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

The ublock script didn't do much, but holy poo poo spoofing chrome finally gets rid of the stupid grey screen on every new video.

Bertha the Toaster
Jan 11, 2009

Croccers posted:

You read through this nerd crap and figure it out
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/comment/ka08uqj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

There's no doubt that Google is up to poo poo for sure, but Firefox and Gamer GX don't have a 5 second pause atm on my PC so :shrug:

I started getting it over the weekend, I just figured the site was being useless, didn't think it was intentional though.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
some people are talking about spoofing chrome , how do you do that or what extension does that?

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life
I’ve said this a lot of times but if you use some sort of redirector you can just use invidious instead of the default youtube interface and it addresses practically all youtube fuckery. Also it’s compatible with sponsorblock.


There are a lot of alternative frontends for various services, you can use someone else’s or host them yourself. Each option has a whole slew of privacy implications and possible mitigations. If you have concerns I can answer some general questions.

https://github.com/mendel5/alternative-front-ends

R.L. Stine
Oct 19, 2007

welcome to dead gay dog house
what was PornInvidious and why was it removed

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
I've moved over to the Freetube app. Seems to be working fine after a few weeks. If I need to comment or shitpost I sign in on my browser to do the dirt and then close it out.

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind
It's incredible how much they're just loving with their users. Are they unaware they're simply making their website bad, slow and unpredictable?

I guess this is the usual Google attitude: "gently caress you, we're Google, you'll use our service anyway."

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Elukka posted:

I guess this is the usual Google attitude: "gently caress you, we're Google, you'll use our service anyway."
a) this is everyone (gently caress you, you need to buy gas/eggs/milk anyway)
b) they're right, most users people will endure anything to use product

IBroughttheFunk
Sep 28, 2012

Elukka posted:

It's incredible how much they're just loving with their users. Are they unaware they're simply making their website bad, slow and unpredictable?

I guess this is the usual Google attitude: "gently caress you, we're Google, you'll use our service anyway."

The lovely thing is they know that they can keep pushing this on everyone for now because.....well, what's the alternative? Nothing comes even close. And so for now the steady enshittification will continue unchecked.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
goons and other poweruser nerds had to have this shackup, you really think the most LCD user is gonna change ?

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

PhazonLink posted:

goons and other poweruser nerds had to have this shackup, you really think the most LCD user is gonna change ?

Well maybe, but definitely not the CRT users

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

IBroughttheFunk posted:

The lovely thing is they know that they can keep pushing this on everyone for now because.....well, what's the alternative? Nothing comes even close. And so for now the steady enshittification will continue unchecked.

for YouTube specifically: the alternative is doing something else. Nothing on YouTube is worth enduring a single ad for.*

I also suggest that if you're willing to endure a single ad for a YouTube video, you'll put up with anything else the platform puts you through. Maybe you don't see it that way, but I guarantee you that they do.

If you are ever forced to view an ad in YouTube, consider just not using it and find something else to do. Not because this will send a message to YouTube, or result in some change in their behavior. Digital consumer boycotts are meaningless and don't work because most consumers will suffer through anything to alleviate their boredom or get their fix.

Do it for yourself and your own dignity, unless for some reason, you have no choice but to use the product. In which case, you have my sympathy, this must be a maddening time.

*I hope this is obvious: if you have no choice but to use the platform for something vital to your life or living, this doesn't apply to you. I'm sorry you are being forced to use a Google product.

doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Nov 20, 2023

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
:hai:

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

doctorfrog posted:

a) this is everyone (gently caress you, you need to buy gas/eggs/milk anyway)
b) they're right, most users people will endure anything to use product
Unfortunately it may be right for YouTube due to a lack of good alternatives but it's really funny how Google leaves behind it a trail of dead services (Stadia, for example), because they went in with this attitude and people did not, in fact, use their service anyway.

doctorfrog posted:

for YouTube specifically: the alternative is doing something else. Nothing on YouTube is worth enduring a single ad for.*
Yeah that's me. My habit now is that if I click a YouTube link, and instead of the video I get some fuckery or an ad, I go 'ah, blocker's not working today' and close the tab.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

if companies need ad impressions so much why dont they just set up billions of virtual machines to serve the ads to, bing bong

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

GolfHole posted:

if companies need ad impressions so much why dont they just set up billions of virtual machines to serve the ads to, bing bong

Ah, the wells fargo approach.

a) advertisers and shareholders are, unlike humans, able to impose pain on google for this kind of chicanery
b) they may do something like this anyway

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

R.L. Stine posted:

what was PornInvidious and why was it removed

Apparently an alternative frontend to xvideos but the project seems to be removed from github.

Edit: Probably this: https://github.com/WhateverItWorks/PornInvidious

Edit2: While trying to figure out what porninvidious was I found another list of alternative frontends: https://rynue.co/r/web-alternatives/

Internet Old One fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Nov 20, 2023

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

why does a porn site need an alternative front end

Rochallor
Apr 23, 2010

ふっっっっっっっっっっっっck

Vegetable posted:

why does a porn site need an alternative front end

Look, not everybody is popular enough to regularly access the default front end

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
loving lol. Y'know, I had noticed that pause on loading videos but just put it down to maybe Firefox not being as well coded, or anti ad blocking fuckery, or maybe just my garbage internet connection. But I just installed an agent switcher as suggested and gently caress me, straight to playing near instantly.

Peter Falk
Sep 29, 2023
I finally installed unlock origin, and apparently the combination of that and noscript defeats whatever bs Google pulls with YouTube. Not that I’ll watch YouTube if I can avoid it.

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

Great Name!

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I open YouTube videos in a new tab anyways, and come back later

atomicpile
Nov 7, 2009

Well, YouTube won.

I wanted to watch youtube on my AppleTV without ads and google has made that pretty much impossible without their app which of course can't block ads. I decided to give in a pay for premium but then i saw that it had gotten more expensive and is now $18.99 which I'm not willing to pay.

So, I went through the extra effort to setup ytdl-sub with my jellyfin server to just download new videos from my subscriptions a few times a day and it works so much better than actually using youtube.

I suspect I'll stop using youtube soon when google somehow prevents video downloads through tools like yt-dl.

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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

atomicpile posted:



I suspect I'll stop using youtube soon when google somehow prevents video downloads through tools like yt-dl.

They have done this before and people patch it.

As long as their software can distinguish between ads and content to make ads unskippable, our software can distinguish between ads and content to skip them.

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