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Hippocrass posted:The Rectangle(Gasoline Alley)(April 6, 1919) But the point of dazzle camouflage wasn't to make ships "less conspicuous", the point was to break up the lines and make it extremely hard to estimate the heading, orientation and speed of a ship. This was important against submarines who were much, much slower than surface ships while underwater, and needed to carefully plan their attack runs ahead of time. Hard to do when you can't be sure of your target's speed or heading. 
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:But the point of dazzle camouflage wasn't to make ships "less conspicuous", the point was to break up the lines and make it extremely hard to estimate the heading, orientation and speed of a ship. This was important against submarines who were much, much slower than surface ships while underwater, and needed to carefully plan their attack runs ahead of time. Hard to do when you can't be sure of your target's speed or heading.
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Also, were they black-and-white? I bet most people only knew about them from seeing photos in the newspaper. That would make me think “camouflage,” as the water and sky would be black-and-white in the photo as well. But in reality they could have been any color and would never have blended in with the water or sky.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Also, were they black-and-white? I bet most people only knew about them from seeing photos in the newspaper. That would make me think “camouflage,” as the water and sky would be black-and-white in the photo as well. But in reality they could have been any color and would never have blended in with the water or sky. “… The designs included a moderate range of colors (hues), though post-war experiments would demonstrate that brightness contrasts were more important than color varieties. “ Link has designs with specified colors: https://www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/art/exhibits/conflicts-and-operations/wwi/dazzle-paint-ship-camouflage-designs-.html
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I AM GRANDO posted:Also, were they black-and-white? I bet most people only knew about them from seeing photos in the newspaper. That would make me think “camouflage,” as the water and sky would be black-and-white in the photo as well. But in reality they could have been any color and would never have blended in with the water or sky. There are paintings of them: most are black and white, but some are colourful.
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Poil posted:Just looking at that ship makes my eyes and brain hurt. So... mission accomplished? Except it would make me more motivated to sink it. Optical range finders used a set of mirrors to align the real and virtual images, which becomes a lot more difficult with wacky stripes. Also, to launch a torpedo you have to estimate the course and speed of the target to correctly lead it. That’s really hard when you can’t clearly tell which end of the ship is which or what angle it’s facing.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Also, were they black-and-white? Everything was black and white back then, colour wasn't invented for a few decades yet. No but seriously, like Pigsfeet says, some were black and white, some were in colour. This is a design from a 1918 report on a ship in dazzle camouflage.  There are also official guidebooks that show the different camouflage schemes used and give the intended colours. As you would expect, lots of greys, blues, light greens etc. And this is an illustration of the effect, showing how a submarine will misread the ship's bow and heading: 
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We Are Reproducing Someone in the other thread pointed out that a comics podcast called Thick Lines did an episode recently about Uchida’s Minami’s Lover, which they discuss particularly through the lens of Uchida being an abuse survivor. They also talk a bit about her life while somehow missing the very important point that her kids are literally named Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta. Bardiche Hotel  
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Fast food and going out evenings are part and partial of the experience for people Michael's age, you idiot. My dad's perspective on school was very much that you sank all those years entirely into posting good scores so you could get a good job and be set for life, and I don't want to dive down the personal speculation hole but I wouldn't be shocked to find out Lynn was the same way.
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Caphi posted:My dad's perspective on school was very much that you sank all those years entirely into posting good scores so you could get a good job and be set for life, and I don't want to dive down the personal speculation hole but I wouldn't be shocked to find out Lynn was the same way. What about “meet and secure a spouse so you’re not all used-up and lonely at 22”? Women got that worse, but men definitely got that too.
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Powered Descent posted:Flash Gordon That's a really efficient character and tone setting strip there, that is.
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Cowslips Warren posted:what....what did popeye call olive/wimpy in the last panel? I think in this case, Popeye just means women cuz he's calling talking about Olive.
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Kennel posted:Nancy Mess aside, that's pretty impressive, Nancy.
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Cowslips Warren posted:what....what did popeye call olive/wimpy in the last panel? Good Listener posted:I think in this case, Popeye just means women cuz he's calling talking about Olive. Yeah, the joke is he's smashed two connected words together because he's an uneducated sailor. I would guess that's he's several decades ahead of that slang, but I don't know. Darthemed posted:Popcom The idea of this g-man nipping out into the hallway to quickly strip just after the climax before ambling back into the room to deliver his button is very funny.
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Good Listener posted:I think in this case, Popeye just means women cuz he's calling talking about Olive. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's just meant to be a Popeye malapropism. It does read a little differently these days.
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ZeeToo posted:That's a really efficient character and tone setting strip there, that is. I think new Flash has pretty quickly become my favourite strip in the thread. I hope it continues to be this good. Scary Go Round (April 6-8, 2004)   
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Kennel posted:Dustin Taps the sign that says "Just fire him. Nobody is making you do this." Crabgrass   Big Nate   Taking a break for a week or so for the holiday so no more comics until then.
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Y'know It's Been A Dog's Age Since I Last Seen The Episode Of King Of The Hill Where Peggy Goes To Physical Therapy, I Should Rewatch That Whole Arc. drat That Show Is Good. Anyway Yeah Living With Fiona Is A Nightmare.        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy0l2r0IxkI 
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I've been sick this weekend and then some, I'm having trouble remembering things so here's a random broadside of Jucika. Jucika "394 - Jucika's Sunday Subsidiary"  "Strand = Beach, Megtelt = Full, Maszek = Self-employed, Kabinos = Cabin Attendant" "395 - Jucika Is Going To Lake Balaton"  "Árvízkárok Újjáépítéséhez = (roughly) Repairs For Flood Damage"
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:I gotta say, Olive & Popeye is the worst of these weird reboot / remake comics we get in this thread. Fair play to anyone who likes it but loving hell. Ehhh I'm as hard on Olive & Popeye as anyone but the rot in Mark Trail is too ridiculously far gone at this point for anything to really compete with it.
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Doomykins posted:I've been sick this weekend and then some, I'm having trouble remembering things so here's a random broadside of Jucika. I hope you get to feelin' better
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Murdstone posted:Apartment 3-G Just let this glamorous alcoholic enjoy her pint glass of warm vodka in peace
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Prince Valiant is such a little stinker Luann  Gil Thorp  Home Free  Just go talk to her loving hamster already. We've discussed before in this thread that the premise of this strip (This family has to live in their back yard because house renovations last FOREVER! Isn't that wacky??) is pretty thin and the strip would be better if Tom Toro would can that and just go with how the kid can talk to animals. I think this current story illustrates that. It's still not a good strip, mind you, but I am mildly curious what's wrong with that hamster.
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Darthemed posted:Popcom Bolo-land?
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Here, let me give that spinal cord injury a good shake. That should loosen things up for ya.
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Some Guy TT posted:Bolo-land? The bolo knife, so presumably an old term for the Philippines.
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