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zoux posted:
Lmao why are Americans so stupid SMHD.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Lmao why are Americans so stupid SMHD. I believe that the Argentinians were the stupid ones, for electing him.
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mobby_6kl posted:Another one of Musky's famously accurate predictions https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/686279251293777920 https://twitter.com/kos_data/status/1726601142023651781 Honestly we should stop letting Europeans have flares.
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Issaries posted:I believe that the Argentinians were the stupid ones, for electing him. Argentinians, famous for not being Americans 
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I really hate that poo poo is so insane I am honestly unable to tell if things are being tweeted in seriousness or as a joke. Unless I'm the one confused about what mommy milkers are, and how they are a cornerstone of the woke liberal agenda.
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Nov 20, 2023 18:16
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The Right Is Starting to Get Better at Comedy
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 Joe Biden's "America"
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nevada, utah, and colorado, the notorious low elevation states. don't know how anyone is surviving king tides out there as things are now
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Nov 20, 2023 19:24
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Yeah lol they have the literal Rocky Mountains, where elevation starts at 5+ thousand feet, in the submersion zone.
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Nov 20, 2023 19:46
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Well, don't come asking me for one of my 100lb sacks of corn when SHTF I'll point out that in a full-out Russia/NATO nuclear exchange, the dakotas are going to be carpet nuked in counterforce strikes to the point that everything north of Lincoln is going to glow in the dark. So good luck in safe and sunny South Dakota
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Nov 20, 2023 19:51
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zoux posted:Well, don't come asking me for one of my 100lb sacks of corn when SHTF The reason the silos are there is because it’s a great sponge for nukes.
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Nov 20, 2023 19:59
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Yeah but Nuke Sponge is terrible ad copy for your apocalypse compound.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:01
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zoux posted:Well, don't come asking me for one of my 100lb sacks of corn when SHTF What are the utilities payments like for an apocalypse bunker? $55k upfront and $1k per year is a pretty solid deal.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:09
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If that was above ground it would cost $300K
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Do I have to keep paying the ground rent after the apocalypse happens (and to whom)
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zoux posted:
lol if yellowstone pops we're all probably done for zoux posted:I'll point out that in a full-out Russia/NATO nuclear exchange, the dakotas are going to be carpet nuked in counterforce strikes to the point that everything north of Lincoln is going to glow in the dark. So good luck in safe and sunny South Dakota Would they? If the silos are empty would there be anything even worth wasting besides what could generously be called a major city
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Nov 20, 2023 21:25
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https://twitter.com/historyinmemes/status/1726488229967478948
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Dubar posted:If that was above ground it would cost $300K "as-is condition" is probably carrying a lot of weight here
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Milo and POTUS posted:lol if yellowstone pops we're all probably done for All those red dots are active missile silos, which would eat between 1-3 MIRV warheads each, I don't think they are far enough away given the thermonuclear gigatonnage that would be dropped on the upper midwest.
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zoux posted:
So you're saying Hawaii and Alaska are immune to cataclysm. Looks like all the territories get the last laugh as well.
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Western SD also has an Air Force base where they are getting a new bomber program Edit: B-21 Raider, a nuclear bomber
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https://twitter.com/ceciliaaraneda/status/1726703902119329919
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At one stage the Soviet strategy for attacking NORAD was to just keep lobbing 20MT nukes at it to ablate away Cheyenne Mountain. I'm sure that would make for spicy air downwind.
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zoux posted:All those red dots are active missile silos, which would eat between 1-3 MIRV warheads each, I don't think they are far enough away given the thermonuclear gigatonnage that would be dropped on the upper midwest. They're talking about a counterstrike, the silos would be empty. I'm asking if there would still be anything worth targeting if they were in fact empty. I'm sure there's some air bases proper but I meant cities and stuff
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While actual targets and protocol are among the most classified secrets in the world, I think every one assumes they're going to nuke our silos either way. Maybe we don't launch all of them, maybe there's a failure that can be corrected for another launch attempt. I mean, Russia runs all (or almost all?) of their ICBMs from mobile launchers in part because silos are easy to target and attack, so this is at least an issue in their mind. Even in a Russia first-strike scenario, we're going to theoretically be able to launch silo-based ICBMs before they get nuked
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Assuming it's not a joke, this is coming from people that will buy and need their own version of anything so long as it has "freedom" or "patriot" in the moniker. Looking at you, FreedomBook and Patriot Media. Making a RW version of this menu is hilariously easy and equally stupid. - Eagle Turkey - Constitution casserole - Bible Beans - Jesus Juice - Ameri-cranberry - Patriot-taters - Freedom Rolls - Patriot Pie
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Nov 21, 2023 00:27
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I remember Jon Stewart once said on-air that he was going to have the most American Thanksgiving possible by eating a bald eagle, and then on the next episode that they had gotten some complaints about that bit. At least one of those was probably a joke though
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zoux posted:While actual targets and protocol are among the most classified secrets in the world, I think every one assumes they're going to nuke our silos either way. Maybe we don't launch all of them, maybe there's a failure that can be corrected for another launch attempt. I mean, Russia runs all (or almost all?) of their ICBMs from mobile launchers in part because silos are easy to target and attack, so this is at least an issue in their mind. Even in a Russia first-strike scenario, we're going to theoretically be able to launch silo-based ICBMs before they get nuked Retaliatory strike scenarios explicitly assume that the empty silos (and other strategic targets) will be significantly less targeted than population centers. Silos probably least of all since military and production facilities have more use than a silo that's launched its missiles. South Dakota is a long way from any active silos: they'll be in a bad way in a Russian first strike but only because the sheer volume of the strikes on North Dakota, Montana, and the greater NORAD area will send huge fallout plumes. Sure, they might not be totally ignored, but if those locations don't get absolutely carpeted than the safety of being in the middle of South Dakota changes a lot. So it's a weird location where in a nuclear war they'll be either as untouched as anywhere in the continental US or in the worst possible place for somewhere that far from the nearest mushroom cloud.  One thing to note on this map is that if the war happened tomorrow the 2000 warhead scenario is not possible: Russia has fewer than 1700 warheads actively deployed so you'd need some sort of close and explicit Russia/China collaboration or something making sure they fill in each other's gaps.
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Minot AFB in North Dakota is where nearly half the US's nuclear bombers are based, theres no way its not on every type of list.
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I also had to Google this guy to see if he was real or not. His Wikipedia page ends with him Splitting up with his wife and dating a staffer.
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tallahassee gets what it deserves, i see e: raises some questions. do the 500 nuke targets not count anymore if there are 2k nukes in play? i see 2k marks overlapping with some 500s but not others. do the overlaps just get nuked twice?
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What if I nuke 500 targets, and then nuke 1500 targets, for a total nuking of 2000 targets, but I never sent a single batch of 2000 nukes?
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Kith posted:tallahassee gets what it deserves, i see I don't know that for certain. And obviously this isn't anything Russia has officially announced so much as an educated guess by Americans. But the scenarios are: 1. Russia does a first strike with a primary goal of neutralizing the US's ability to wage war. Apart from suicidal impulse, this might represent that for some reason they feel they can "win" the war with a surprise attack. It targets anything the US can use to strike back with or use to rebuild its offensive capability in the short or medium term. Killing everyone is possible but it's not the goal. 2. Russia does a retaliatory strike, for example in response to an American first strike or other immanent collapse of Russia. This is the MAD scenario, where a nuclear power that is losing a war makes certain that there is no winner. Body count is the goal: destroying remaining American forces is fine and all, but doesn't really matter if there's no Russia left to attack. It could even be triggered by the automatic Dead Hand system the Soviets designed to signal all remaining silos in the event a surprise American attack destroying their entire command structure. There's no confirmation but supposedly Russia still maintains it. Obviously enough scenario 2, by design, is a good enough reason why a first strike is insane for even the most hawkish and bloodthirsty government, and both scenarios would be governed partly by the number of available warheads, but target priorities are sharply different for each.
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If the nukes start flying we are hosed regardless of what silos are targeted or not
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haveblue posted:What if I nuke 500 targets, and then nuke 1500 targets, for a total nuking of 2000 targets, but I never sent a single batch of 2000 nukes? sending nukes in one at a time to just pound dallas into the sea two thousand times
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i say swears online posted:sending nukes in one at a time to just pound dallas into the sea two thousand times People often overlook the benefits of peaceful use of nuclear power
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Killer robot posted:Retaliatory strike scenarios explicitly assume that the empty silos (and other strategic targets) will be significantly less targeted than population centers. Silos probably least of all since military and production facilities have more use than a silo that's launched its missiles. South Dakota is a long way from any active silos: they'll be in a bad way in a Russian first strike but only because the sheer volume of the strikes on North Dakota, Montana, and the greater NORAD area will send huge fallout plumes. Sure, they might not be totally ignored, but if those locations don't get absolutely carpeted than the safety of being in the middle of South Dakota changes a lot. So it's a weird location where in a nuclear war they'll be either as untouched as anywhere in the continental US or in the worst possible place for somewhere that far from the nearest mushroom cloud. Given the lack of missiles hitting Nevada, it definitely seems like in the future patrolling the Mojave would almost make you wish for a nuclear winter.
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It's good, but I prefer the classic
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You’d swear an AI produced that
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