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Sherbert Hoover posted:i feel like cspam has been ironically saying "critical support" for so long that people forgot that the "critical" part is real and good. you really don't have to fanatically support hamas in order to back them against israel. i feel like people are concerned that anything less than 100% support for their actions is giving power in some way to the other side, but it's actually a lot more hurtful to the palestinian cause to publicly state that any atrocity is justified. drat, should have kept reading cuz this post is much worse. also sorry kingfish i blasted too soon, you get one bad post get out of jail free from me
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Sherbert Hoover posted:hamas ftw
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death to oppressor states, death to state agents of oppression my olives stand with palestine 
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really queer Christmas posted:also sorry kingfish i blasted too soon, you get one bad post get out of jail free from me one of the other two will hit the post
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if it was just a question of Hamas acting like a baseline invading military that shoots civilians it’d be one thing, but it ain’t like that because “world’s biggest active shooter situation” doesn’t capture the imagination in the same way that sadistic interpersonal atrocity does. The perception of oct 7th as a charnel house is the problem. the president can’t even stop believing in imaginary decapitated babies.
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VomitOnLino posted:I am uncritically supporting Hamas now. Eat my dick
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VomitOnLino posted:I am uncritically supporting Hamas now. Eat my dick
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Dreylad posted:there's also the sleight of hand where you start the tally of wrongs at october 7th and not before. Yeah this is pervasive as hell
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VomitOnLino posted:Whats your take on the slave revolts which ended up killing many innocents as well, and John Brown? Brown and his family didn’t kill anyone who didn’t deserve it until Shepherd Hayward at Harper’s Ferry, and that guy was just unlucky. Take W.E.B. DuBois’ word for it, those border ruffian Pottawatomie fuckers had it coming. Jai Guru Dave has issued a correction as of 02:57 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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VomitOnLino posted:I am uncritically supporting Hamas now. Eat my dick
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i've seen a lot of pundits using the hamas videos of the night of the raids and killings as proof of hamas inhumanity and barbarity, because a guy talking about how happy is killing israelis is a lot more impactful to these people than the slow-motion slaughter of thousands of children in the distances through artillery and blockades.
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VomitOnLino posted:I am uncritically supporting Hamas now. Eat my dick
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:if it was just a question of Hamas acting like a baseline invading military that shoots civilians it’d be one thing, but it ain’t like that because “world’s biggest active shooter situation” doesn’t capture the imagination in the same way that sadistic interpersonal atrocity does. The perception of oct 7th as a charnel house is the problem. the president can’t even stop believing in imaginary decapitated babies. 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:if it was just a question of Hamas acting like a baseline invading military that shoots civilians it’d be one thing, but it ain’t like that because “world’s biggest active shooter situation” doesn’t capture the imagination in the same way that sadistic interpersonal atrocity does. The perception of oct 7th as a charnel house is the problem. the president can’t even stop believing in imaginary decapitated babies. Seriouspost. I think it is in part a reflection of how insanely violent even "peaceful" western society is. Just because the boot on your neck is not physically manifest does not mean that violence is not being done day in day out. Thus a great many westerners are insanely receptive to violent imagery, fantasies and of course propagandist narratives about the enemy being even more so.
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Dreylad posted:there's also the sleight of hand where you start the tally of wrongs at october 7th and not before. or after
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Man I can't believe all those atrocities Russia committed in Germany during the 1945 offensive plz ignore everything that happened before that thx
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I don't like this war at all. It's like Armageddon and I'm praying God will save my soul before the bitter end of the world. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Spacegrass posted:I don't like this war at all. It's like Armageddon and I'm praying God will save my soul before the bitter end of the world. chill out, dude. Hamas is gonna win.
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Sherbert Hoover posted:i feel like cspam has been ironically saying "critical support" for so long that people forgot that the "critical" part is real and good. you really don't have to fanatically support hamas in order to back them against israel. i feel like people are concerned that anything less than 100% support for their actions is giving power in some way to the other side, but it's actually a lot more hurtful to the palestinian cause to publicly state that any atrocity is justified. "critical support" as in "this load-bearing wall is critical to the structural integrity of the house"
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Critical support in terms of nuclear reactions
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Spacegrass posted:I don't like this war at all. It's like Armageddon and I'm praying God will save my soul before the bitter end of the world.
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The PFLP has literally said that posting is essential to the cause, and Nasrallah has often talked about the "battle of awareness" or "battle of consciousness" in his speeches, where it is necessary to make people believe that winning is even possible, because Israel's goal is to spread despair.
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Ytlaya posted:
this has been rattling around in my head and we will never know for sure but I suspect you're right but VomitOnLino posted:I am uncritically supporting Hamas now. Eat my dick
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How am I not surprised that the Israeli cargo ship was full of BMW's destined for Israel's richest I mean isn't that a little too on the nose?
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really queer Christmas posted:drat, should have kept reading cuz this post is much worse. nah both should have been blasted
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Looks like our boys won’t blow up the ship after all….. https://x.com/aryjeay/status/1726740199839826026?s=46 ….or will they? https://x.com/aryjeay/status/1726750069230026892?s=46 Honestly compared to Iraq and Hezbollah they are the wildcards of the group. Standby while I make a quick a Gif:
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a hyper militarized apartheid state hearing about Hamas at a rave would 100% panic and go loving frank 'i just started shooting' into a crowd, I don't find that hard to believe at all. it makes a lot of sense especially with what we have heard about officers getting got during this time (obviously don't know if this was happening simultaneously but seems likely to me) and the shattering of an idea of invulnerability that's held on for decades. it would be shocking to me if the IDF isn't exactly what happened to most of the 400. sort of a bush did 9/11 thing again, everything old is new again e: I'm just some loving idiot so idk maybe there's some Hamas super grenade supply truck they had that would make more sense
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:How am I not surprised that the Israeli cargo ship was full of BMW's destined for Israel's richest why are these BMWs even crossing the suez when germany is north of it
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Palladium posted:why are these BMWs even crossing the suez when germany is north of it Apparently it was heading from Turkey to India
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financial, material support to hamas
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the rave was supposed to end on the 6th, but the IDF gave them permission to continue on through the weekend if you place civilians in the line of fire, and then fail to protect them, it's your fault that they died - it doesn't even matter whether or not friendly-fire was involved. Israeli settlers getting killed on the 7th is no more Hamas's fault than it's Russia's fault when Ukraine refused to evacuate its cities and towns because they needed the PR effect of babushkas picking up AKs and molotovs
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It would actually be pretty stupid for Hamas to spend a bunch of time and ammo actively hunting down civilians in a time operation, especially when they probably prefer to take hostages anyway. Civilians were obviously in the crossfire, but the Israelis have already essentially admitted they had helicopters go in to try to "clean up" the situation Hannibal style. It wasn't an isolated case either. In addition, most of the names had military names attached, and while arguably some were off-study reservists, it could be very well be they were just killing a lot of active duty service personnel and doing a much of damage to the Israelis in a way they still don't want to admit. The beheaded babies and all the other stuff they have tried have been a cynical smoke screen. ----------------- They want to get rid of Hamas because it is the only force willing and capable of defending the Palestinian people inside Palestine itself. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 03:01 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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RealityWarCriminal posted:financial, material support to hamas ekkunnn got perma'd for suggesting that
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Western media is so goddamn stupid and does zero research exhibit 9,000^9,000 https://twitter.com/moufidmostafa/status/1726735698324021741
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what was the story with the attack helicopter at the rave? and wasn't there literally a survivor who said on Israeli state radio that the IDF security forces fired without regard and definitely killed some of the hostages? idk why we are still having a struggle session about this crepeface has issued a correction as of 04:02 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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FlapYoJacks posted:Western media is so goddamn stupid and does zero research exhibit 9,000^9,000 this is willful stupidity, western shitrags dont care and only serve as cover for israel
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crepeface posted:what was the story with the attack helicopter at the rave? and wasn't there literally a survivor who said on Israeli state radio that the IDF security forces fired with regard and definitely killed some of the hostages? The rave was IDF soldiers tripping on MDMA next to the world’s largest concentration camp, that’s why there were tanks and attack helicopters there. None of them deserve sympathy and it was a legitimate military target.
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Palladium posted:why are these BMWs even crossing the suez when germany is north of it They were rerouted from Argentina
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