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Warmachine posted:If SRW30's treatment of Narrative is anything to go by, the SRW treatment of SEED:F will actually make the story enjoyable and develop the characters further than the movie did. And after its one, maybe two prominent appearances SFreedom will also probably end up like Endless Waltz and more recently A Wakening of the Trailblazer as filler series to round out the roster. You'll get the main hero suits and whichever battleship is most important and they'll use the bad guy mook in the game and maybe feature a recurring boss. The series will be There but mostly turn into secondary supporting characters for the plots and shows that are actually going to be in focus. Which is actually how DESTINY (and many other series for that matter) eventually ended up as well, there's a handful of games where Shinn and Kira and Luna and maybe Athrun just happen to be there and do giant robot fights and help out but don't really matter that much to the overall plot. See UX where Shinn and Luna are hanging out with the Fafner cast or V where they folded DESTINY into Cross Ange and everyone hit on Athrun. To do a couple of points of contrast SRW V made Space Battleship Yamato into the functional protagonist series of the game, SRW X went extremely all out to centralize everything around Mashin Hero Wataru, and SRW 30 went above and beyond the call of duty to find a way to get Gridman into a central role in the story. Call me a biased hater, but I doubt SFreedom is going to get that kind of star billing even in its full story debut. I suspect they'll make it a plot relevant series in the game it debuts in (after rewriting large chunks of it) and then in any future entry it'll just file off into the mid-card with its prequels.
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Instead of another SRW, we’ll get Gundam Seed Freedom skins in Fortnite.
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Considering there's no more smaller scale non-HD systems for quicker development, yeah, SRW is probably gonna take a bit now. And until 30, the series had been averaging almost multiple games a year for like 15 years so I say let em take their time
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Gripweed posted:Instead of another SRW, we’ll get Gundam Seed Freedom skins in Fortnite. Hell yeah, We can have the squad of Goku, Lewis Hamilton and Athrun.
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What kind of mobile suit would Lewis drive? Char already has the Ferrari sponsorship and Alpha Tauri got Yuki Tsunoda a special Grandaddy and Aerial deal. Would you give Lewis the F91?
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Zedd posted:Something with a GN drive. GN 00 Gundam Seven Sword for seven championships, of course!
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ImpAtom posted:Assuming we even get another SRW considering it's been two years since the last one. The sad thing is that Terada might have been the only person in leadership remaining who was pushing for non-mobile SRW games and he’s gone now
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MechaX posted:The sad thing is that Terada might have been the only person in leadership remaining who was pushing for non-mobile SRW games and he’s gone now While it's always potentially risky for the continued life expectancy of a long-running niche series when its original facilitator/mover and shaker retires/moves on, SRW 30 was the most successful game in the franchise ever. I think it's more likely that SRW is simply too much of a development burden to expect yearly releases like they've done in the past for so long, because there's no "budget" system to release smaller titles for and because the expectation bar for production values has gotten so high. It was two and a half years between SRW T and SRW 30, and everyone was doom and glooming that SRW was dead then too.
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Kanos posted:The super soldier program is the singular most heinously hosed up and evil thing anyone in the entire show has going on in 00S1, so it's not terribly surprising or inconsistent that the extremely positively portrayed sympathetic antagonist character Sergei goes "yeah maybe it was a good thing that the orphan grinder got blown up", because we're supposed to like him and him being annoyed or angry that Allelujah blew up the orphan grinder would be weird in that context. But the Sergei scene is off tone. It's not him resignedly admitting this might have been for the best, it's not him and Soma mourning her dead friends and the cruelty of the system that forced things to come to this. It's just saying Celestial Being did a Real Good Thing. It's the show flinching at its own themes and trying to downplay them to ensure there's no confusion about the rooting interest. Episode is still great, but it's a good symbol of one of the show's recurring weaknesses in season 1.
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Kanos posted:While it's always potentially risky for the continued life expectancy of a long-running niche series when its original facilitator/mover and shaker retires/moves on, SRW 30 was the most successful game in the franchise ever. I think it's more likely that SRW is simply too much of a development burden to expect yearly releases like they've done in the past for so long, because there's no "budget" system to release smaller titles for and because the expectation bar for production values has gotten so high. It was two and a half years between SRW T and SRW 30, and everyone was doom and glooming that SRW was dead then too. Really the biggest thing that Terada took with him were any hopes of that last OG game they were brainstorming. All main games from here on out, likely.
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chiasaur11 posted:The thing is, there were still hundreds, maybe thousands of orphans in the orphan grinder, and Al blew them up. And in his part of the plot, that was handled well! We see the good that comes from it, we see how much it fucks him up, and we're left with a feeling of sadness and exhaustion. Even if there was no better way, the best remaining option still sucked, and the heroes know it. The thing is that I'm not really sure 00S1 is ever really trying to portray the protagonists in CB as being truly morally grey; they've all got messed up backgrounds to varying degrees, but that's about as far as it goes in actual practice. It's treated as a horribly flagrant violation of CB's ethical code when the Thrones decide to blow up a weapon factory that has civilian workers, which would seem like a pretty normal target of opportunity for a morally grey terrorist organization trying to end conflict. Blowing up the super soldier program is notable and treated as a big deal specifically because it flies in the face of the protagonist CB's normal approach. It's an exception to the normal rules of engagement, not the True Theme trying to peek through and then being suppressed.
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Are the movies a compressed version of G-Reco?
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From what I understand, it's basically the same runtime since there's five movies, but some things are switched around and some things are given more explanation
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https://twitter.com/gundambattleope/status/1726828876964438235?s=20 Rozen Zulu coming to GBO2
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Kanos posted:The thing is that I'm not really sure 00S1 is ever really trying to portray the protagonists in CB as being truly morally grey; they've all got messed up backgrounds to varying degrees, but that's about as far as it goes in actual practice. It's treated as a horribly flagrant violation of CB's ethical code when the Thrones decide to blow up a weapon factory that has civilian workers, which would seem like a pretty normal target of opportunity for a morally grey terrorist organization trying to end conflict. Blowing up the super soldier program is notable and treated as a big deal specifically because it flies in the face of the protagonist CB's normal approach. It's an exception to the normal rules of engagement, not the True Theme trying to peek through and then being suppressed. Except it has them talking about needing to pay for what they've done all the time, it has them question their own methods, their backstories are sketchy, the plan is to make them the enemies of all mankind, we get the new Gundam team who are explicitly villains... Celestial Being is clearly meant to have some questionable traits and to make the viewer ask questions about the morality of their methods, if only to add emotional weight to the turnaround when they rise above and become Gundam like Setsuna dreamed. But the show is so worried that the viewer will actually find them questionable that it pulls its punches to the point where it hurts the intended impact.
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I disagree because I think Sergei is acting totally congruent with his character when he makes his statement. Man is a grognard who is deeply uncomfortable with the super solider program; aside from that the CB is morally grey because their goal of uniting the world can stem from two causes, cooperation driven by pursuit of furthering collective humanity or from overwhelming force by an outside party. CB S1 tries the latter and it ends up succeeding and leading to the atrocities of the A-Law's and Ribbon's Government. Viewer's tend to disconnect the two groups but that is mistaken, S1 CB and the Innovades are operating on a continuum.
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chiasaur11 posted:Except it has them talking about needing to pay for what they've done all the time, it has them question their own methods, their backstories are sketchy, the plan is to make them the enemies of all mankind, we get the new Gundam team who are explicitly villains... Yes, they have sketchy backstories and are doing things that make them enemies of the established government. They never actually do anything very sketchy or villainous in the show itself, unless you find blowing up drug farms and showing up at the site of shooting conflicts and violently disarming both sides to be sketchy or villainous. The Thrones are an example of my point. They're introduced and almost immediately start doing the morally questionable stuff to advance CB's overall goals, and the protagonist Meisters are horrified and flabbergasted to the point where they literally open fire on them unprovoked because in the protagonists' eyes Celestial Being has a moral code(the aforementioned "becoming Gundam") and the Thrones are violating it. It's not even just crazy Setsuna who hates them and thinks they're loving things up; even Tieria, who in 00S1 is extremely devoted to The Mission above all else, thinks the Thrones are doing it wrong. There is a very clear demarcation in word and deed between Celestial Being(the protagonists) and Celestial Being(the organization); the former almost never does anything particularly sketchy(super soldier facility attack being a notable exception), and the latter does a lot of things that are sketchy because it's being run by amoral sleazeballs who want power like Wang Liu Mei, Alejandro Corner, and Ribbons. 00S2 makes this division explicit instead of implicit. Kanos fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzgS_8LBmlg Youtube upload for those avoiding Twitter compression.
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzgS_8LBmlg Man it is so funny to compare the Youtube comments to here. It is genuinely like people discussing two different trailers entirely
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Synthbuttrange posted:Im just watching them because everytime they say Celestial Being it's hilarious The thing that gets me is the use of full names at all times It can’t just be Setsuna referring to Saji by name, it always has to be SAJI CROSSROAD
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BRING STABBITY NOOOOOO
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I loved 00, it was my first show that I watched as it aired, but no one has any definition and everybody has perfect posture.
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1st Stage Midboss posted:In anything that needs to put characters in a narrative context like SRW, SEED Freedom will be a slam dunk of "all your favourite SEED characters are here, with versions of their iconic robots" while also only having a movie's worth of story to involve; it's not like the original SEED being the popular one stopped them using Destiny all the time because it has the beloved SEED leads plus more. In stuff like G Generation, everything is in anyway, Freedom will just get to have greater fidelity because there's fewer battles in a movie to adapt into video game, and obviously the likes of EXVS will include new stuff when they can because that's More Mobile Suits. SRW also seems to enjoy fixing Destiny's plot, so that's not really much of a reason. Kanos posted:While it's always potentially risky for the continued life expectancy of a long-running niche series when its original facilitator/mover and shaker retires/moves on, SRW 30 was the most successful game in the franchise ever. I think it's more likely that SRW is simply too much of a development burden to expect yearly releases like they've done in the past for so long, because there's no "budget" system to release smaller titles for and because the expectation bar for production values has gotten so high. It was two and a half years between SRW T and SRW 30, and everyone was doom and glooming that SRW was dead then too. In the first place, how much of SRW as even them being continuously working as opposed to being continuously behind? SRW V was supposed to be the 25th anniversary game, but didn't even come out til almost the 26th anniversary. It's entirely possible that V through T was just them working out their backlog. 30, meanwhile, was back on track, actually releasing on the correct year. Supremezero fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzgS_8LBmlg Green hair guy at 30 seconds in looks like he's about to crush Lacus' business card.
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https://en.gundam.info/content/flowchart/ Gundam Info has a flowchart to determine which series is for you
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Couldn't get Victory. Sorry, it's a failchart not a flowchart
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Waffleman_ posted:https://en.gundam.info/content/flowchart/ If you say you want to watch the origin of the series in the middle of the test it just tells you to watch gundam.
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Twilight axis is an option It was the first one I got
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ninjewtsu posted:Twilight axis is an option Lol same. Got recommended Twilight Axis in three questions flat.
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Waffleman_ posted:https://en.gundam.info/content/flowchart/ This thing is broken, it refuses to recommend G Gundam.
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haypliss posted:It gave me WfM instead of GReco. Shameful
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