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the fundraiser ad is playing pretty heavily on the 24/7 MST3K Shout channel. it's just Matt McGinnis with Joel popping in. there's a more produced ad for Turkey Day that's showing up as well (along with ads for the channel itself)
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Sydney Bottocks posted:
Oh, nobody here, to be clear. There's a lot of pure vitriol out there on the internet and in particular a lot of it on MST3K's own forums when the original relaunch season aired.
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Nov 21, 2023 14:44
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Have they done any cross promotions with any yt streamers?
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Nov 21, 2023 15:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onWP0a6oRMM Live Watch now on 'The Mask'. Joel said a few movies that I don't think are announced. Abraxas, Ballista (not sure on spelling), and Battle Truck. FFS some one win the lottery please quick to fund this.
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Nov 22, 2023 02:07
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You'd think there would be at least one or two tech bro billionaires(or maybe a Saudi prince) who are big enough fans of the show to just give them a blank check
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Nov 22, 2023 02:18
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Maybe Seinfeld will give up on that series continuation none of his co-stars ever heard of and give Joel some big bucks.
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Nov 22, 2023 03:54
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I still think they should have done a watch-along of Munchie. Not saying it would have put them over the top, but it couldn't have hurt.
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happyhippy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onWP0a6oRMM I think Rifftrax did Abraxas and its tailor made for the MST treatment.
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TL posted:I think Rifftrax did Abraxas and its tailor made for the MST treatment. Yeah, especially for people from Minnesota there's a lot mileage to be get out of it.
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Nov 22, 2023 04:29
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If I ever win the Powerball I'm spending most of it on MST3K.
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Nov 22, 2023 05:12
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That and mst3k themed affordable housing projects
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Nov 22, 2023 08:22
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Gizmonic Heights
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Nov 22, 2023 08:37
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Keep one of the apartments in the center of the building for yourself, hook up a projector and sound system, and once a week play bad movies against the neighbouring building to see if you can break your building full of test subjects. 
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Nov 22, 2023 08:40
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This looks like just what Joel was trying to avoid with the Gizmodoplex. He foresaw that they couldn't crowdfund each new season forever, but the pivot didn't work and now they're having to go back to a dry well. I imagine they're gonna hit the minimum on this one, and then have to shutter for a couple of years and retool. They'll probably lose the cast. Maybe they can restart the live shows or make some new pitches to networks.
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PostNouveau posted:This looks like just what Joel was trying to avoid with the Gizmodoplex. He foresaw that they couldn't crowdfund each new season forever, but the pivot didn't work and now they're having to go back to a dry well. I mean, the ending of S13 does at least provide them with an excuse in the off chance they can’t get everyone back
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How well would MST3K work now that the streaming platforms have matured? The main advantage they had was filling up network time on channels that needed something on air & that need is mostly gone. People don't watch old programming either even if it's right there for eyeballs to view. The stigma of puppets=kids=crap TV hasn't gone away and likely has increased (The Muppets just had their Disney+ show cancelled).
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PostNouveau posted:They'll probably lose the cast. Other than Joel and Emily I'd LOVE for them to lose the cast. Please get these famous people out of my MST3k. My unlikely wishlist for this show: - Physical sets that feel they have dimension like in the old show. Even the netflix set felt kinda flat somehow? - Bots that 'feel' like the Kevin Murphy/Bill Corbett bots. Maybe not impersonations but at least consistent characterization and voices that have similar registers. - Make GPC dumb again. Name is fine but that character was so endearing and now it's just 'girl' which tbh kind of defeats the purpose of the change. There's also a perfectly good lore reason for her dumbness. - New mads that aren't famous but just really funny individuals with excellent chemistry. I think the writing has been pretty great. I hope they pull off reaching their goal or have a contingency plan because I'd of course rather not-ideal MST than no MST. 
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I didn’t mind Jonah to be honest but yeah, he’s kind of run his course at this point. As I’ve said before, an Emily season could probably be a lot of fun
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Gaspy Conana posted:- New mads that aren't famous but just really funny individuals with excellent chemistry. I mean, they could probably get the Mads back. Mary Jo Pehl?
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PostNouveau posted:I mean, they could probably get the Mads back. Mary Jo Pehl? She already came back for all of Season 13 after all (plus a few cameos in 11 and 12), making her one of the (if not the only) few consistent actors for a large portion of the show Larryb fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Nov 22, 2023 |
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Nov 22, 2023 17:43
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Gaspy Conana posted:Other than Joel and Emily I'd LOVE for them to lose the cast. Please get these famous people out of my MST3k. Yeah I'd cosign all of this. A thing that bugs me a little bit and maybe I'm just being really picky and I only notice this because I was told it, but I don't love that the actors aren't doing the puppeteering. Bill isn't as handy a guy as Trace is, but after a few episodes he figured out how to make Crow emotive anyway.
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Update from Joel. quote:Greetings, MSTies! tl;dr: They're scaling back their goals and if you read between the lines, they're praying for an angel investment.
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Still a long way to go. They’re just under 50% of the new goal. But it does seem to have caused a major surge in donations already. It’s still a longshot, but it looks a little better than it did an hour ago.
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Nov 22, 2023 19:21
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They should add a new stretch goal: Explain why Nate Begle was completely erased from the show out of the blue.
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While I'm sure he's right about LA, I still think that's too lofty for where MST3K is right now. They don't need, nor can afford 'talent'. Just get random Midwesterners and go with it. RLM it.
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Sardonik posted:While I'm sure he's right about LA, I still think that's too lofty for where MST3K is right now. They don't need, nor can afford 'talent'. Just get random Midwesterners and go with it. RLM it. I think part of it is that since they want to go back to physical sets for the host segments, it makes sense to do it in LA, where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting some random prop house full of off-the-shelf junk that's cheap to rent.
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Gaspy Conana posted:Other than Joel and Emily I'd LOVE for them to lose the cast. Please get these famous people out of my MST3k. They're going back to physical sets for sure. Joel has said this several times, and even in the "we're going to cut corners" Email that just came out, he said they're sticking to the plan of physical sets. I think the new bots are fine. Baron Vaughn nails Servo's style and has a wonderful singing voice. New-new-Crow took some getting used to, but it doesn't bother me at all now. I don't like the idea of making GPC dumb again. She was the only female character for the first several years of the original series, and even then it was a bad look for the only woman on the show to be almost non-verbally stupid (and also voiced by a man). New mads wouldn't bother me. The current ones are good, but they're both big enough names that even if they're settling for SAG minimums, their schedules might be an issue. I don't know how much of the first revival season's host segment issues were specifically caused by the Mads' schedules, but it probably didn't help. Sardonik posted:While I'm sure he's right about LA, I still think that's too lofty for where MST3K is right now. They don't need, nor can afford 'talent'. Just get random Midwesterners and go with it. RLM it. Union stuff makes this more difficult than it sounds.
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WhiteHowler posted:I don't like the idea of making GPC dumb again. She was the only female character for the first several years of the original series, and even then it was a bad look for the only woman on the show to be almost non-verbally stupid (and also voiced by a man). Dumb GPC would convince me to stop supporting the show entirely and buy more Rifftrax to go along with my monthly Mads habit. It was kind of a dumb decision to have GPC as she was for as long as they did, and that one sketch where she's operating at full capacity just illustrated that point. She was no Gracie Allen. I think she works best in the original series when she gets to be the smart one (like in the "Noh Theater" sketch) and the "voiced by a man" thing was never really excusable after KTMA. (She was no "Miss Piggy" either.) And I suspect people just don't grasp the difference between "employees at a local TV station double as performers in cheap show with zero union labor" and "2023 streaming TV production." Even if this fundraiser fails, over 11,000 MST3K fans were willing to pledge $2 million to get more episodes. "Let's hire a teenager and pay him peanuts to save costs" isn't something you do if you have a choice. It can be something that happens if you started out with no budget and never got around to being union. But none of the producers are broke 30-year-olds this time out, and the show isn't operating on the "hire all the people you know from the local stand-up scene" model any more either.
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Ok, well at least give her something. They could play more with the already-established "GPC is using all of her brain juice running the ship, hence dumb" thing and have her switch between being hyper-intelligent and mega stupid in equal measure. Plenty of comedic potential there. Presently she's a nothingburger.
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I don't think they're gonna make this one without a streamer stepping in and picking them up. Is that what happened with Netflix?
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Murdstone posted:I don't think they're gonna make this one without a streamer stepping in and picking them up. Is that what happened with Netflix? Netflix picked them up after the original Kickstarter was finished, but it was explicitly part of the plan that time to sell the season to a network or streaming service after raising the money.
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Timby posted:They should add a new stretch goal: Explain why Nate Begle was completely erased from the show out of the blue. He just did an interview where he says it was because he wanted to be with his family after his kid was born and couldn’t commit to any work projects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp96TxjZ-yQ I don’t know why they couldn’t just say that and why that would require him to erase all his social media, but it’s what he’s saying. I strongly prefer that to be true over either him doing something bad or him having something tragic happen, which is what everyone was thinking. Another possibility I didn’t consider until recently is that he was not fairly compensated or Alternaversal messed with the terms of his contract, but given how they’ve been acting, maybe they do jerk the talent around.
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I hope it’s as simple as he’s saying, but given the way he was memory-holed, I have trouble buying that that’s actually the whole story.
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I hope it’s nothing scummy, he’s very talented and was a drat good Crow.
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When they announced the movies for season 13 it turned out I had already seen like half of them. So I tried to will season 14 into being last night by watching Deathsport and...that's gonna be a tough one. It's not just cheap and poorly made, it's full of weird sci-fi ideas that aren't explained. Also a major plot point drops during a scene full of full-frontal nudity, so they'll probably have to do some Sidehackers-style cutting around that. But at least it does feature an attempt at ripping off the Death Star trench run sequence with motorcycles. So now I've seen everything intended so far for season 14 except "Ballistica," which I'm pretty sure isn't real anyway. If things start to look really bad toward the end of the marathon I might force myself to watch it as a "rally cap" type situation, but I hope I don't have to.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:its 2023 and joel is just discovering there are economies of scale from producing media in LA lol I'm not a big MST3k fan but I have watched everything they put out since they came back. One thing I notice is that compared to Rifftrax, business wise is run much more lax which I think actually dampens fans want for more. In comparison, Rifftrax is able to pump out and promote content constantly, while making people feel like they are apart of something. Joel needs a business manager badly, or maybe a merger and let Mike run the business aspect. It's just not going to work in the long term, though Joel had good intentions.
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UnleashedDad posted:I'm not a big MST3k fan but I have watched everything they put out since they came back. One thing I notice is that compared to Rifftrax, business wise is run much more lax which I think actually dampens fans want for more. In comparison, Rifftrax is able to pump out and promote content constantly, while making people feel like they are apart of something. Joel needs a business manager badly, or maybe a merger and let Mike run the business aspect. It's just not going to work in the long term, though Joel had good intentions. Rifftrax is much, much easier to produce since there's no sets or costumes or cameras, just a recording booth.
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I didn't see it mentioned, so here's the episode list for the marathon: Thursday 11/23 9AM ET/6AM PT: Bride Of The Monster 11AM ET/8AM PT: The Pumaman (Surgically Enhanced) 1PM ET/10AM PT: Escape 2000 3PM ET/12PM PT: Beyond Atlantis 5PM ET/2PM PT: The Beatniks 7PM ET/4PM PT: Viking Women and the Sea Serpent 9PM ET/6PM PT: The Giant Gila Monster 11PM ET/8PM PT: The Starfighters (Surgically Enhanced) Friday 11/24 1AM ET/10PM PT: Munchie 3AM ET/12AM PT: Master Ninja II 5AM ET/2AM PT: Catalina Caper (Surgically Enhanced) 7AM ET/4AM PT: Operation Kid Brother 9AM ET/6AM PT: The Bubble 11AM ET/8AM PT: Time Chasers 1PM ET/10AM PT: Horror Of Party Beach (Surgically Enhanced) 3PM ET/12PM PT: Prince Of Space 5PM ET/2PM PT: Dr. Mordrid 7PM ET/4PM PT: Girl In Gold Boots 9PM ET/6PM PT: Stranded In Space 11PM ET/8PM PT: Gorgo Saturday 11/25 1AM ET/10PM PT: Santo in the Treasure of Dracula 3AM ET/12AM PT: Santa Claus Conquers The Martians 5AM ET/2AM PT: Santa Claus 7AM ET/4AM PT: The Christmas Dragon
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