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Feels Villeneuve posted:yeah like power in this game right now is far more about interruptions/quick effects than it is the one-card combo ending with some combo of Accesscode/BDF/BSD that i think really put a lot of people off the game and it's much better for it Yeah like, even in High Tear era it wasn't a wall of infinite negates it was a bunch of summons and destructions you could play with and around. It's fun! In fact the most dogshit decks in the current meta are the ones that end on Red Hot King Calamity like Mannadium or Centurion. Which could be solved by banning that single ED monster.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:28 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 17:47 |
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by far the biggest problem with tears* was that few decks had interruptions to the level of tears so it felt like your opponent was playing twice as much as you were, which isn't a good feeling what i'm saying is tears can come back now that we have decks like r-ace *apart from it being literally the strongest deck ever released
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:29 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:by far the biggest problem with tears was that few decks had interruptions to the level of tears so it felt like your opponent was playing twice as much as you were, which isn't a good feeling Honestly, I've had some full power tear vs labrynth games at locals and it's so goddamn fun. TEars biggest sin was it stood alone on the mountain. As others rise up we will see beauty in them again.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:30 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Yeah like, even in High Tear era it wasn't a wall of infinite negates it was a bunch of summons and destructions you could play with and around. It's fun! OCG solves Mannadium by a simple card that punishes combo decks........ but yeah King Calamity should be banned, its like from the era where poo poo like Azathot and Shock Master were considered acceptable to print
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:30 |
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Yu-Gi-Oh died when TSHD unleashed the war criminals known as Infernities and Ronintoadin on an unsuspecting population
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:36 |
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They should print more infernity monsters
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:39 |
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Release Gumblar.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:45 |
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I think Gumblar is up there with like Shock Master and Utopic Zexal as one of the least likely ED monsters to get unbanned
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 19:46 |
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I would have said the same about Rhongo but MD surprised me
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 20:04 |
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also Elpy. remember when they thought "You can Special Summon 1 Dragon monster from your hand or Deck" was an acceptable card effect for a link-1
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 20:08 |
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https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Grapha,_Dragon_Overlord_of_Dark_World Tears getting to summon this was not fun, actually
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 20:31 |
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Justin_Brett posted:https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Grapha,_Dragon_Overlord_of_Dark_World Tears getting to summon this was not fun, actually It was actually
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 20:49 |
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I demand we introduce Smogon-style tier systems for decks in YGO. You guys can go play Tear in Ubers, I wanna go play some weird poo poo down in Underused.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 01:31 |
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New solo gate: Genex
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 06:16 |
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Flair posted:New solo gate: Genex Case in point, that's a 'decently strong in Underused'-rear end archetype if I ever saw one.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 07:34 |
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Cleretic posted:I demand we introduce Smogon-style tier systems for decks in YGO. that's legitimately something I'd love but it'd just be hard to actually implement MTG commander has a "power level" thing agreed upon between players and I'd love stuff which isn't a time capsule format but lets you use weird rear end non-meta archetypes like Volcanics or some poo poo
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 07:39 |
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it is a very cool idea that always seems to end up with like, 3 people making fun underpowered decks, one person playing outright garbage and 2 more running "blue eyes/DM" that's actually just 35 staple cards and 4 actual alleged engine cards"
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 09:07 |
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TheFlyingLlama posted:it is a very cool idea that always seems to end up with like, 3 people making fun underpowered decks, one person playing outright garbage and 2 more running "blue eyes/DM" that's actually just 35 staple cards and 4 actual alleged engine cards" God, there's a youtube channel in my recommendations that does weird archtype decks in Master Duel, but half of them are just six of the two good cards in the archtype being carried by an actual deck and the replays shown are the ones where those cards happened into his opening hand.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 09:54 |
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Cleretic posted:I demand we introduce Smogon-style tier systems for decks in YGO. Good news: this already exists. It's called "Kuchen format" Bad news: turns out its difficult to assess the power level of every card in the game against every other card when you have like 3 volunteers and no useful play data.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 11:55 |
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I mean, Smogon tiering is based almost exclusively on usage stats. The more a Pokemon is used, the higher tier it gets restricted to. There's more to it with suspect tests and emergency bans and such, but at it's core it's a simple system.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 12:08 |
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Syenite posted:I mean, Smogon tiering is based almost exclusively on usage stats. The more a Pokemon is used, the higher tier it gets restricted to. There's more to it with suspect tests and emergency bans and such, but at it's core it's a simple system. Yeah, if you have the numbers, then it's easy to draw lines. Building certain decks in those structures is when it gets kinda funky, with Genex being a good example: its tendency to produce cards that are really strong in other people's decks would mean that 'full power Genex' is off in, like, OU because of power cards like Birdman, while most of the deck is more off in RU or NU territory. I can also immediately imagine some decks like Dark Magician getting 'noob trapped' in some tiers. There's a great video about weird tiering mishaps across Smogon's history, where one example was Dusknoir being stuck in a tier that it can't do anything in, because of so many inexperienced players being SURE it must be good that it never actually dropped into a usage tier it'd actually do well in. Staples would also be a weird situation, where they might have to be just locked as usable by all/most/certain tiers. Like, by usage Ash Blossom is probably OU/Ubers, but that instead becomes a ubiquitous one because otherwise poo poo gets broken.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 12:48 |
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in a world where pure usage stats define tier, every single handtrap better than like, skull meister ends up in at least UU
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 12:58 |
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Syenite posted:I mean, Smogon tiering is based almost exclusively on usage stats. The more a Pokemon is used, the higher tier it gets restricted to. There's more to it with suspect tests and emergency bans and such, but at it's core it's a simple system. None of the online sims like dueling book track useage data (they're already in a legally dubious enough situation as is) so without manual assessment every smogon tier will invariably become "ban whatever's popular in Master Duel each month". Decks like tri-brigade or zoodiac that are slightly too weak to compete in MD would run rampant. It's like when MBT decided it would be a good idea to put salamangreat in rotation format and it was almost unbeatable, even with most of its power cards banned. Smogon works because they have data from the games and their own format is extremely popular, so there's no shortage of data. But in Yu-Gi-Oh, at some point you have to assess every deck individually or you end up with a series of terrible formats that bleed players while you desperately emergency ban cards to save it.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 13:00 |
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opportunity cost matters a whole lot more in 6v6 than it does in 40+ card decks; 20+% of teams in smogon don't run the best mons because they have some strat that doesn't want them, and it's not throwing to not play great tusk or kinggambit or w/e. On the other hand, in a 40 card deck 90+% of everyone is always going to run 3 max C because there are never 38+ better cards in a deck than 3 copies of max C
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 13:06 |
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TheFlyingLlama posted:in a world where pure usage stats define tier, every single handtrap better than like, skull meister ends up in at least UU Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Nov 24, 2023 |
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i fuckin love flipping toxic cards Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Nov 27, 2023 |
# ? Nov 25, 2023 18:32 |
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New temporary login bonus: New special bundle. This time, the UR is TTT: New Ra secret pack: New Therion secret pack: Temporary Anniversary bundle with Silfer and accessories:
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 08:31 |
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the gods finally get summoning animations lmao. never understood why they didn't have them forever
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# ? Nov 27, 2023 16:44 |
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Got four URs from my TTT bundle, effectively 55 UR dust (one of the pulls was glossy, and I already had a playset of TTT). I continue to believe that these bundles of staple card + 10 packs are weighed towards producing more URs than the usual ten pulls, since these are aimed at new players.
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# ? Nov 28, 2023 10:47 |
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first locals...... played bad and pulled good
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 06:11 |
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Upcoming Duelist Cup:
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 07:34 |
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Skios posted:Got four URs from my TTT bundle, effectively 55 UR dust (one of the pulls was glossy, and I already had a playset of TTT). I continue to believe that these bundles of staple card + 10 packs are weighed towards producing more URs than the usual ten pulls, since these are aimed at new players. I literally just bought this and didn't get a single UR except the guaranteed TTT.
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 08:12 |
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Neo_Crimson posted:I literally just bought this and didn't get a single UR except the guaranteed TTT. I came out okay, but I generally have very bad pull luck so I count that as things trying to even out
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# ? Nov 30, 2023 08:25 |
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quote:A new Forbidden/Limited List and new packs have been announced!!!! Dragon Rulers are FREE!
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 06:32 |
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https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/november-2023/selection-packs-announced
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# ? Dec 1, 2023 08:48 |
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i think playing purrely irl is the dumbest i have ever felt. not because i didn't do too well because i kept forgetting to activate certain effects, but saying poo poo like "lyly target pretty" or "lyly search friend" is like deranged poo poo. is this what it was like when prank-kids were a relevant deck
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 17:44 |
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Feels Villeneuve posted:first locals...... played bad and pulled good
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# ? Dec 3, 2023 18:30 |
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Is there a way to make the gate guardian retrains work with the Invoked engine? Invoked Gate Guardians sounds way cooler in my head then they probably actually are
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# ? Dec 4, 2023 23:10 |
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New selection pack with the new cards: New selection pack with old cards that have just been unbanned: New bystial secret pack: New pendulum secret pack:
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 08:30 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 17:47 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Is there a way to make the gate guardian retrains work with the Invoked engine? I feel like you can run it, it's just that gate guardian is a really card hungry engine; I really don't know if there's a way to run it that isn't insanely bricky with less than like, 25-30 "in engine" cards (and honestly it's still pretty bricky then) and invoked wants another 8 or 9, leaving a deck with like space, maybe a nib or imperm, let alone maxx cs or ashes. I have a feeling that it'd be like, insanely fun pop-off fun deck to play with friends, but bricky and probably just outright unplayable against meta
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# ? Dec 5, 2023 09:01 |