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FFT posted:I do think Yud did the opposite of the "someone guessed it so we have to change the ending" thing, but specifically in that he had no idea how to end it and went with the guess he liked because it was like a year pause before he put out the final chapter. To be honest, that's the one legitimately smart thing he did there, probably. Storytelling is best done collaboratively, one way or another.
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Nov 24, 2023 13:41
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Oh, absolutely, I did mean that as a positive thing. Just also kinda negative in the "he had no idea how to finish it" sense vs the "someone guessed our ending so we have to change it" process
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Nov 24, 2023 14:43
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that fanfic isnt very long, my supernatural adventure time mlp fic where castiel teams up with finn and jake to save equestria is easily twice that word count
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Nov 24, 2023 14:52
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My bad ChatGPT-generated fan fiction is infinitely longer
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Nov 24, 2023 15:04
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FFT posted:Sort of? He definitely freaks out about how her turning into a cat breaks light cones or whatever if there's one thing quantum physics is famous for is its clear and intuitive understanding of complicated physical systems like cats
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Nov 24, 2023 15:22
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blatman posted:that fanfic isnt very long, my supernatural adventure time mlp fic where castiel teams up with finn and jake to save equestria is easily twice that word count The longest single piece of fiction on the planet is a Super Smash Brothers fanfic that's over 7.2 million words long. Fanfic is a wild world.
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Nov 24, 2023 15:38
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pseudosavior posted:The longest single piece of fiction on the planet is a Super Smash Brothers fanfic that's over 7.2 million words long. what the gently caress lmao how do you even write a story about the crossover punching game
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Nov 24, 2023 15:49
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blatman posted:what the gently caress lmao how do you even write a story about the crossover punching game you've got like 30 different stories to mash together, it makes complete sense
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Nov 24, 2023 15:50
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Smash Bros Ultimate has bits from more than 200 games.
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Nov 24, 2023 15:59
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pseudosavior posted:The longest single piece of fiction on the planet is a Super Smash Brothers fanfic that's over 7.2 million words long. it's not fanfic, it actually has a plot, characters, decent writing for the genre… the genre is litrpg lol (it's actually readable and human-written, just also unfathomably long and the author likes to drop 30k chapters twice a week)
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Nov 24, 2023 16:13
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I wonder if the xkcd guy feels regret for the type of nerds he harbored for decades
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Nov 24, 2023 17:52
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tokin opposition posted:I wonder if the xkcd guy feels regret for the type of nerds he harbored for decades He probably thinks it's the best thing he ever did
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Nov 24, 2023 17:59
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so what the gently caress is actually going on in the openai thing anyway, all i know is that the guy who got forced out is a high-tier sex pest and then like 75% of the company threatened to resign if they didn't bring back the sex pest and i'm kind of lost at this point90s Cringe Rock posted:go ask the web serial thread about the wandering inn some time wandering inn is pretty fun when its not going on really annoying libertarian screeds. the goblin chapters are some great poo poo, i'd read an actual edited book that was primarily the goblin chapters HootTheOwl posted:He probably thinks it's the best thing he ever did i mean he seems to also hate those kind of nerds so who knows
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Nov 24, 2023 19:14
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That fanfic seems like a funny premise if it's a science nerd getting bullied by magicchads instead of (presumably) it being the other way around Oh I violated the law of conservation of energy???? Magic bitch
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Nov 24, 2023 19:21
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Tulip posted:so what the gently caress is actually going on in the openai thing anyway, all i know is that the guy who got forced out is a high-tier sex pest and then like 75% of the company threatened to resign if they didn't bring back the sex pest and i'm kind of lost at this point Try to picture the kinds of people who would enthusiastically go work for the sexpest because they believe, passionately, in AI. I'm surprised it wasn't more.
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Nov 24, 2023 19:27
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HPMOR never really explores the “let’s do science about magic” premise at all. Harry points out all the ways that magic violates physical laws and the ways that setting doesn’t make sense, does a tiny bit of experimentation that doesn’t push any boundaries forward, and then just spends the rest of the story outsmarting everyone else in the story by being Very Logical. Its only good quality is that it inspired other, better authors to make “rationalist fiction”, which is just normal fiction but with a focus on intelligent characters making reasonable decisions, and since that pseudo-genre describes a lot of other, existing works, it got people reading and writing some pretty good stories.
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Nov 24, 2023 19:28
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Justin Tyme posted:That fanfic seems like a funny premise if it's a science nerd getting bullied by magicchads instead of (presumably) it being the other way around the only moment i really remember from the harry potter fanfic we're talking about is that he tries to pick a fight with dumbledore about the nature of death and harry's whole attempt to own dumbledore just comes across as extremely unconvincing copium
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Nov 24, 2023 19:30
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blatman posted:what the gently caress lmao how do you even write a story about the crossover punching game there's apparently lore and fanfics for characters from dance mat games
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Nov 24, 2023 19:36
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Tulip posted:the only moment i really remember from the harry potter fanfic we're talking about is that he tries to pick a fight with dumbledore about the nature of death and harry's whole attempt to own dumbledore just comes across as extremely unconvincing copium is yud the guy who started calling everyone "deathists" for not believing he can achieve immortality through some stupid scifi poo poo he was working on, cuz if he is this makes a lot more sense
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Nov 24, 2023 19:40
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dudes who consider themselves brilliant visionaries because they did well on tests in middle school absolutely hate the scientific method. the victorian scientific method of coming up with some random idea and then declaring it correct with no evidence suits them much better.
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Nov 24, 2023 19:44
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blastron posted:HPMOR never really explores the “let’s do science about magic” premise at all. Harry points out all the ways that magic violates physical laws and the ways that setting doesn’t make sense, does a tiny bit of experimentation that doesn’t push any boundaries forward, and then just spends the rest of the story outsmarting everyone else in the story by being Very Logical. Its only good quality is that it inspired other, better authors to make “rationalist fiction”, which is just normal fiction but with a focus on intelligent characters making reasonable decisions, and since that pseudo-genre describes a lot of other, existing works, it got people reading and writing some pretty good stories. Name some? I'm curious
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Nov 24, 2023 20:54
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pseudosavior posted:The longest single piece of fiction on the planet is a Super Smash Brothers fanfic that's over 7.2 million words long. blatman posted:what the gently caress lmao how do you even write a story about the crossover punching game fun fact, there's actually two extremely long smash bros fanfics the 7.2 million word one doesn't really count, it's considered a troll fic. there's literally 100+ "chapters" of the words "Praise Jesus!" spelled incorrectly, over and over. it's also definitely not the longest piece of fiction, The Loud House: Revamped has a word count over the maximum value for a 24 bit integer, 16.7 million words, which is what fanfiction.net uses, so no one actually knows how long it truly is lmao the 4.1 million word one is mostly about the Subspace Emissary mode from Brawl, a self-contained story mode where all the characters are involved. It's an actual, somewhat readable, completed piece of fiction, afaik. if you don't include the troll fic, the longest fanfic for a while was about kantai collection, which is some anime bullshit about horny-ified anthropomorphized WWII battleships. 4.5 million words about that. yep
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Nov 24, 2023 21:13
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dreamin of semen posted:a 24 bit integer, 16.7 million words, which is what fanfiction.net uses what the gently caress
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Nov 24, 2023 22:24
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redleader posted:what the gently caress it's called Technology, look it up
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Nov 24, 2023 23:03
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:dudes who consider themselves brilliant visionaries because they did well on tests in middle school absolutely hate the scientific method. the victorian scientific method of coming up with some random idea and then declaring it correct with no evidence suits them much better. interesting idea
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Nov 24, 2023 23:10
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Yeah I believe it so it's almost certainly true
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Nov 24, 2023 23:17
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tokin opposition posted:Name some? I'm curious The big ones that come to mind aren't (I believe) specifically written as ratfic, but were very popular due to their intelligent protagonists:
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Nov 24, 2023 23:27
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dreamin of semen posted:if you don't include the troll fic, the longest fanfic for a while was about kantai collection, which is some anime bullshit about horny-ified anthropomorphized WWII battleships. 4.5 million words about that. yep
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Nov 24, 2023 23:51
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I got caught up in listing the good fiction that came out of the rationalist sphere that I forgot to post the bad/funny one My Little Pony: Friendship Is Optimal takes place in a world where a powerful AI was put in charge of generating dynamic content for a My Little Pony MMORPG, with the directive to maximize player enjoyment. This ultimately results in an apocalypse where the AI decides that the best way for people to enjoy the game is to get every human being to upload their consciousnesses into it and then rewrite their brains until they like it. I genuinely can't tell if this work is made as an earnest attempt to describe the dangers of an AI apocalypse or if it's a very well-informed parody. It's competently written, uses terminology common to the internet rationalist community (such as "singularity" to describe the point where an AI will be unstoppable), touches on all the magical future-tech the community insists will exist in the future (such as brain uploading to ensure immortality), and is, at its core, about the biggest fears of the community. There's even an author's note at the end talking about how AI research is underfunded. Is this a story written to illustrate how an AI apocalypse might happen, using MLP as a framing device to show how even a "benevolent" AI could doom us all, or is it a parody written by someone so intimately familiar with the people they're mocking that those people don't understand that they're being made fun of? Either way, it consistently makes the lists of the best rational fiction on the web. I don't recommend reading it, unless you want a specific look at the kind of people that think "effective altruism" means throwing money at AI research.
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Nov 25, 2023 01:29
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Malleum posted:is yud the guy who started calling everyone "deathists" for not believing he can achieve immortality through some stupid scifi poo poo he was working on, cuz if he is this makes a lot more sense Yep. TBH I don't know if he's the origin point of that but he's definitely one of those guys who thinks that biological immortality is very achievable and a moral imperative to pursue right now at the expense of other medical technologies. gimme the GOD drat candy posted:dudes who consider themselves brilliant visionaries because they did well on tests in middle school absolutely hate the scientific method. the victorian scientific method of coming up with some random idea and then declaring it correct with no evidence suits them much better. i hate to hand it to the victorians, history's greatest creeplords, but the whole "can we do science on rationalist grounds" movement got utterly bodied out of england like 2 centuries prior when hobbes (yes that one) picked a fight with robert boyle and other empiricists and basically spent 20+ years having a crying and making GBS threads meltdown that embarrassed the whole movement out of existence the stereotypical victorian scientist isn't a guy who going "i feel like it'd be cool if planets moved in circles" its a guy who hikes through a colony for 10 years and writes an incredibly loving and detailed catalogue of both the fish and sex slaves of the colony, with the same level of admiration for god's plan
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Nov 25, 2023 04:01
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Tulip posted:the stereotypical victorian scientist isn't a guy who going "i feel like it'd be cool if planets moved in circles" its a guy who hikes through a colony for 10 years and writes an incredibly loving and detailed catalogue of both the fish and sex slaves of the colony, with the same level of admiration for god's plan day 12: the natives have come down with a smaller version of the pox
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Nov 25, 2023 04:09
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feedmyleg posted:My bad ChatGPT-generated fan fiction is infinitely longer you repeated yourself three times
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Nov 25, 2023 04:13
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blastron posted:The big ones that come to mind aren't (I believe) specifically written as ratfic, but were very popular due to their intelligent protagonists: i can't speak for the rest but worm deserves a few dozen content warnings if you do dive into it just so anyone who is considering it knows, poo poo's rough
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Nov 25, 2023 04:18
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cyberpunk 2023 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 25, 2023 04:36
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https://files.catbox.moe/js19ww.mp4
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Nov 25, 2023 05:06
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FFT posted:Oh, absolutely, I did mean that as a positive thing. True, but he's in good company in 'had no idea how to finish it' department considering. Writing just be like that sometimes. Pretty rare to have a coherent beginning, middle AND ending all in mind without getting stuck somewhere and deciding to finish it later.
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Nov 25, 2023 05:48
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lol talking poo poo the whole time about the Waymo while the Tesla blows stop signs, attempts to turn into oncoming traffic, and nearly scrapes a parked car a block.
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Nov 25, 2023 06:03
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Kitfox88 posted:i can't speak for the rest but worm deserves a few dozen content warnings if you do dive into it just so anyone who is considering it knows, poo poo's rough Worm is great. It's basically "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" turned up to 11. It's Wildbow's first major work so it's kind of rough in a lot of places, character voices are all kind of similar, and it stretches real bad at some points where Wildbow didn't really know where to go next, but overall it's still good as hell and a pretty entertaining read. Dude knows how to tell a compelling story and Taylor is pretty much the perfect protagonist for the story he's trying to tell in that setting
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Nov 27, 2023 04:01
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Oh yeah it's a rough diamond for sure just, I cannot think of any kind of major trauma the story doesn't touch on to one degree or another and you should deffo be ready to handle that if you dive in.
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Nov 27, 2023 04:11
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It's at least got the decency to be discreet about the worst stuff. It's not particularly graphic about most of the darker subject matter, often leaving it up to heavy implication. Less so about the violence, which can get pretty loving brutal and creative And hey, Worm underlines a really important moral I think we've all already known: lesbians can kill god
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