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Danann posted:Given Ukraine's experience, cluster munitions are exactly good at one thing which is shooting at a tank column stacked up against each other like it's a Wargame zero hour rush. Outside of that and I believe you can set any cluster round to just act like a HE round, its just not as good as the proper thing
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atelier morgan posted:cluster munitions are good at one thing and that's reaping an order of magnitude more deniable civilian casualties from uxo than any comparable munition, perfect for america they're also quite good at giving an enemy guerrilla force a bunch of UXO to make IEDs out of
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Regarde Aduck posted:I believe you can set any cluster round to just act like a HE round, its just not as good as the proper thing You also have to know how to do that
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i appreciated that they didn't try to make Jake-O starfleet Kinda funny Nog went to the academy though
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Jake was too close to the mil to want to join up; Nog was using it as a jumping off point to improve his life rather than end up like his father tale as old as time
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Nog was a diversity hire
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poisonpill posted:Jake was too close to the mil to want to join up; Nog was using it as a jumping off point to improve his life rather than end up like his father I bet Nog got all the diplomatic perks after Rom became Nagus though.
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The Old-School Artillery Shell Is Becoming High Tech https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-old-school-artillery-shell-is-becoming-high-tech/ar-AA1klGY1 Hell. Yes. quote:AUFOSS, Norway—At a factory in rural Norway, engineers are perfecting an artillery shell they say will be able to travel many times farther than the traditional ammunition currently pounding the battlefield in Ukraine. quote:Norway-based Nammo, in partnership with Boeing, is testing shells in Raufoss that use so-called ramjet engines that it says will eventually be able to travel up to about 90 miles—more than the distance from Philadelphia to New York. Standard-barreled howitzers have a range of around 15 miles with a conventional round, with longer-range cannons reaching just over 30 miles. quote:The company’s ramjet technology works by allowing air to enter through the front of the shell at high speed. The air is compressed and oxidizes the rocket fuel, allowing it to burn. Using outside air means ramjet shells don’t need to have oxidizer as part of their propellant, meaning they can cram in more fuel. I've constantly been saying that the main thing that artillery shells are missing is an entire jet engine. I'm glad somebody is finally listening. quote:Nammo is developing shells fired by tanks where the operator can decide on the type of effect. For example, the shell could be programmed to explode in the air above a target or to penetrate its armor. Other companies are exploring the possibility of being able to adjust how much of a shell’s warhead detonates at the target, to potentially reduce collateral damage. This is an upgrade available to Siege Tanks in Starcraft 2. quote:Both the U.S. and Europe produced about 300,000 artillery shells last year, according to the Center for Strategic and International Studies. The European Union believes its producers can increase production to one million shells by next year and the U.S. is looking at a level of 1.2 million. It's nice to have dreams. quote:Manufacturing shells can be a lucrative business. Germany’s Rheinmetall said this month that it expects operating margins of 25% this year at its newly acquired Spanish shell maker compared with 8.4% for its wider business. Triple the profits means triple the innovations. quote:An advantage artillery shells hold over missiles is that they are quicker and cheaper to make. A Russian-made Lancet drone is about 35,000 US dollars. Western-made 155mm HE shells are also currently a lot more expensive than $800. quote:BAE and Nammo haven’t disclosed how much their new shell will cost once in production, though the latter has said its ramjet shells could be considered high cost in comparison with other artillery products. quote:The increased complexity of shells also has its downside. For instance, guided shells have been vulnerable to Russian electronic warfare, Ukrainian artillery operators say. And new innovations, including ramjet rockets and guidance wings, take up space from explosive materials. This is the last sentence of the article. They're really burying the lede.
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BearsBearsBears posted:The Old-School Artillery Shell Is Becoming High Tech How to build a lovely rocket artillery.
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No need for RDX when we can just have bigger KE impacts from bespoke, artisanal ramjet power plants in each shell, lovingly 3D printed for mere thousands of dollars.
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:No need for RDX when we can just have bigger KE impacts from bespoke, artisanal ramjet power plants in each shell, lovingly 3D printed for mere thousands of dollars. Thousands of dollars is the cost of a single, western-made, basic HE shell. Each new German 155mm shell costs 3,300 Euros. They cost 2,000 Euros even before the Ukraine war. These new shells are going to be much, much, much more profitable. https://en.defence-ua.com/analysis/how_much_155mm_ammunition_costs_now_an_example_of_the_rheinmetall_contract_for_10000_shells-5178.html
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stephenthinkpad posted:Isn't ramjet vaporware? Is there a working ramjet product? Ramjets are pretty common on missiles. You might be thinking of scramjets? Scramjets are like ramjets but even more faster.
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https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1728097551692492980 china suffering from success: bicycle rush hour in the dockyards
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1728097551692492980 President Xi, chinese people yearn for massive public transport
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BearsBearsBears posted:The Old-School Artillery Shell Is Becoming High Tech Lmfao They have learned nothing It's so absurd I don't know how anyone can even say this poo poo with a straight face anymore
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stephenthinkpad posted:What if, every Chinese dock work drive a crew cab pickup? an important point, this could be so much worse if they were driving personal cars
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double nine posted:an important point, this could be so much worse if they were driving personal cars They don’t feel like big tough guys because they aren’t driving F350s :-(
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Slavvy posted:They don’t feel like big tough guys because they aren’t driving F350s the toughest men in the world just blow up their own guys when their hear "hamas"
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BearsBearsBears posted:The Old-School Artillery Shell Is Becoming High Tech western military technology will eventually evolve into spending the entire GDP of the US into making the Golden Gun and a single bullet for it
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Halser posted:western military technology will eventually evolve into spending the entire GDP of the US into making the Golden Gun and a single bullet for it Who gets to be Oddjob?
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:Who gets to be Oddjob? Some senators incompetent failkid.
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:Who gets to be Oddjob? biden
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Halser posted:western military technology will eventually evolve into spending the entire GDP of the US into making the Golden Gun and a single bullet for it thinking of how the think tanks claiming SK can effortlessly wipe NK off in this "because muh high techs" context even funnier now
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Danann posted:
estimated date of delivery: at the impending chinese collapse
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Danann posted:
Leaning against the factory wall, chewing a piece of straw: "Market prices pardner."
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DancingShade posted:Leaning against the factory wall, chewing a piece of straw: "Market prices pardner." its totally free for ukraine as long as they loan money from the IMF
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Can you even get funding to build/buy a basic shell manufacturing plant? Would be hilarious if the US/EU couldn’t ramp up production because they only funded grift plants.
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GrunkleStalin posted:Can you even get funding to build/buy a basic shell manufacturing plant? holy poo poo no, munitions are very strictly regulated
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Bastard Tetris posted:holy poo poo no, munitions are very strictly regulated funny how our govt run safety inspectorate over here is essentially a state run grift with all of the perks and non of the actual responsibilities
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1728097551692492980 Ah but at what cost? And also have you considered this is way worse for GDP than spreadsheet wizardry?
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Slavvy posted:Lmfao Look I know we have problems, but what if we try the same thing we have been doing, but *more*? Also no I have no idea why my wife left me.
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Slavvy posted:Lmfao You can't teach a man something that his livelyhood rests upon not knowing
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FF kinda puts the lie to that, he just pretends not to know any of it professionally. Probably should maritally as well.
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Cerebral Bore posted:i cant speak for ff, but i feel like people like him are less taught and more crack-pinged into correct thought Once reality intrudes on ideology, roll a d20. On a 20, you crack-ping into reevaluating. On a 1-19, you double down.
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