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Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

psilocybin laden posted:

this is correct, additionally it leaked later that there was already a preset amount of systems that at minimum be flipped along with some other stuff - which sort of killed the whole player driven part of it, since it was all predetermined by CCP beforehand and they just lied that it would be affected by the free will of the players
There was a predetermined number of systems that would be flipped, but I don't think that killed anything? It makes a pretty big difference whether it's Niarja or some random system in Aridia that got taken away.

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WilWheaton
Oct 11, 2006

It'd be hard to get bored on this ship!

Rhymenoserous posted:

That happened before the invasion.

karttoon was right

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


froody guy posted:

So what's the buzz? Who are the bads and is there anything substantial going on in null? I mean, the casino war and all these people just fighting us because grrrrrr goons was a bit depressing after a while.

I'm watching one of those 'playing EVE in 2023' vids and oh boy did everything change. From nullification to cynos, that carbon fiber reaction thing, FW, trigs... we also have 4 new rocks to much now? Holy geez my body's not ready for that!

Btw, one thing I didn't understand, so the trigs own Niarja now? And Niarja basically went off the maps, you can't even use it as desto. So now going from Jita to Amarr it's either a 45 jump trip or an 11 jumps one but passing though a single lowsec syste. Basically north and south are severed completely now except for JF. Where am I wrong?

how do you do fellow gooners

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

how do you do fellow gooners

Still spinning. Nuff said :v:

Groggy nard
Aug 6, 2013

How does into botes?

froody guy posted:

Still spinning. Nuff said :v:

It might be a comment on your past j4g posts.

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

That'd be an easy dunk for sure

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

lol i lkove this guy

salartarium
Sep 7, 2021

Elukka posted:

There was a predetermined number of systems that would be flipped, but I don't think that killed anything? It makes a pretty big difference whether it's Niarja or some random system in Aridia that got taken away.

Serenity also had a different invasion route and targets, and the results were synced between the servers. Most of the EDENCOM systems are a result of Serenity.

somnolence
Sep 29, 2011
Jay amazingness is cool, that is all.

Dirac Fourier
Aug 14, 2023
Did anyone try the vanguard play test today? I was invited and attempted it on my Linux box with wine. It didn’t work for me probably because of wine issues. The anti cheat client seemed to fail to initialize while entering a battleground.

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.

somnolence posted:

Jay amazingness is cool, that is all.

Ah cool, he's still playing? I just emailed about being unvacationed so I can dick about with this FPS thing as it they said it's like Tarkov, so should be cool.

Is John Hartley and Kendarr still about?

Dukes Mayo Clinic
Aug 31, 2009

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

Ah cool, he's still playing?

in a sense.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

Ah cool, he's still playing? I just emailed about being unvacationed so I can dick about with this FPS thing as it they said it's like Tarkov, so should be cool.

Is John Hartley and Kendarr still about?

Yeah he stole trillions from GSF. All of your favourite shitters are still around.

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.
Jay or John stole poo poo?...

I could see Jay doing that but I'd be surprised if John did.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

Jay or John stole poo poo?...

I could see Jay doing that but I'd be surprised if John did.

Jay did. I forgot who John is.

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022

floppyspud posted:

Jay did. I forgot who John is.

"john" gregor hartley

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Dirac Fourier posted:

Did anyone try the vanguard play test today? I was invited and attempted it on my Linux box with wine. It didn’t work for me probably because of wine issues. The anti cheat client seemed to fail to initialize while entering a battleground.

What distro are you using? I'm with Nobara and EVE (on Steam) works like a champ. But no anti cheat thing in EVE so :shrug:

Mr. Grinch
Jul 2, 2007

They say that the Grinch's small heart grew three sizes that day.

floppyspud posted:

Jay did. I forgot who John is.

john is the guy who still uses the R slur as recently as like 2022 and posts his fleet videos set to T swift or some other horrid dogshit

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Mr. Grinch posted:

john is the guy who still uses the R slur as recently as like 2022 and posts his fleet videos set to T swift or some other horrid dogshit

careful now. you're going to get swifties in here

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Mr. Grinch posted:

posts his fleet videos set to T swift

i thought you were telling everyone why he sucks

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


somnolence posted:

Jay amazingness is cool, that is all.

that's right

DrHammond
Nov 8, 2011


Jay gave me 300M to honk at goons and deliver +1 implants to an impoverished 1DQ, then proceeded to use the flock of honking geese as a distraction to make a getaway in a shuttle.

I thought that was pretty cool.

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.

Mr. Grinch posted:

john is the guy who still uses the R slur as recently as like 2022 and posts his fleet videos set to T swift or some other horrid dogshit

I think the last video of his I saw, was set to Kanye. Same difference I guess.


Jay stealing, like I said, wasn't a surprise. He lives in the same small town I do, or did last time we spoke. He was also so cagey about anything that wasn't EVE and always said maybe to goon meets then bailed at the last second. It became a running joke at one point..

Wasn't he a pubbie who was granted the keys to the kingdom?

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

DrHammond posted:

Jay gave me 300M to honk at goons and deliver +1 implants to an impoverished 1DQ, then proceeded to use the flock of honking geese as a distraction to make a getaway in a shuttle.

I thought that was pretty cool.

that owns very hard

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

I think the last video of his I saw, was set to Kanye. Same difference I guess.


Jay stealing, like I said, wasn't a surprise. He lives in the same small town I do, or did last time we spoke. He was also so cagey about anything that wasn't EVE and always said maybe to goon meets then bailed at the last second. It became a running joke at one point..

Wasn't he a pubbie who was granted the keys to the kingdom?

I wouldn't want to meet you IRL either

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.

hailthefish posted:

I wouldn't want to meet you IRL either

Don't worry..I'm lovely. I only bite if you ask me nicely.

imperiusdamian
Dec 8, 2021

hailthefish posted:

I wouldn't want to meet you IRL either

I wouldn't want to meet anyone IRL. People suck.

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

It's good to be back...



oh well :shepspends:

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

When someone told Mittani how the invasion worked, and then someone told him that yoinking Niarja off the map would make Legacy's (who we were at war with in that whole Beeitnam thing) route to Jita take longer there was concerted goon effort to flip the system to the triangle men
I thought it was just a "lol pubbie tears" situation since it was going to affect people living in empire space way more.

Sickening posted:

Somewhere someone at CCP envisions people needing armed gang escorts to do any logistics as they remove empire routes. Its something that might sound good on paper to morons. Instead you get more things that require jump freighters and blockade runners things become more tedious.
They made empire logistics slightly safer with the bumping nerf and then crapped up JF logistics with lancers.

Though honestly it's hard to tell if the lancer thing was intentional or incompetence since their comments prior to the release suggest that they think dropping a lancer on a gate to kill a jump freighter is taking a big risk for some reason.

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.

froody guy posted:

It's good to be back...



oh well :shepspends:

I feel your pain, I've spent the evening trying to round up about 25b in assets all stuck in AS. Not my idea of a good time.

Furnok Dorn
Mar 30, 2004
SOCIALLY WORTHLESS SHUT-IN NERD

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

Don't worry..I'm lovely. I only bite if you ask me nicely.

don't post like this

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.

Furnok Dorn posted:

don't post like this

It's only weird if you make it weird. Otherwise it's just tongue in cheek and a bit snarky.

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

It's only weird if you make it weird. Otherwise it's just tongue in cheek and a bit snarky.

Weird or not, it was bad

Saithir
Jul 10, 2022

OneEightHundred posted:

Though honestly it's hard to tell if the lancer thing was intentional or incompetence since their comments prior to the release suggest that they think dropping a lancer on a gate to kill a jump freighter is taking a big risk for some reason.

Both.

Rattati has a thing for making GBS threads on JFs for some reason (as evidenced by multiple interviews it's definitely too late for me to find), and a misconception that people will have to like, defend and escort them.

Which is very surprising for a person that has a pretty straightforward access to the data on the scale of JF operations in Eve.

Furnok Dorn
Mar 30, 2004
SOCIALLY WORTHLESS SHUT-IN NERD

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

It's only weird if you make it weird. Otherwise it's just tongue in cheek and a bit snarky.

don't post like this either

The Bible
May 8, 2010

DrHammond posted:

Jay gave me 300M to honk at goons and deliver +1 implants to an impoverished 1DQ, then proceeded to use the flock of honking geese as a distraction to make a getaway in a shuttle.

I thought that was pretty cool.

Goddamn Jay is cool.

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.

Saithir posted:

Both.

Rattati has a thing for making GBS threads on JFs for some reason (as evidenced by multiple interviews it's definitely too late for me to find), and a misconception that people will have to like, defend and escort them.

Which is very surprising for a person that has a pretty straightforward access to the data on the scale of JF operations in Eve.

Wasn't Rattati one the Devs on the whole playstation FPS thing that failed horribly? Or am I misremembering by a mile.

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
To be fair, CCP has been trying to make logistics as much of a pita as possible pretty much since day 1. The only reason they actually introduced freighters at all is because the playerbase told them there was no way anyone was gonna try to build endgame stuff (outposts, supercaps) in any significant quantity otherwise.

e: and CCP really wanted people to build endgame stuff circa 2006 because there was such a glut of raw material on the market that the economy was very close to collapsing entirely.

Coasterphreak fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Nov 28, 2023

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Coasterphreak posted:

To be fair, CCP has been trying to make logistics as much of a pita as possible pretty much since day 1. The only reason they actually introduced freighters at all is because the playerbase told them there was no way anyone was gonna try to build endgame stuff (outposts, supercaps) in any significant quantity otherwise.

e: and CCP really wanted people to build endgame stuff circa 2006 because there was such a glut of raw material on the market that the economy was very close to collapsing entirely.

Weren't freighters introduced, like, 18 years ago?

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OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!
It's just dumb cause the whole reason nullsec alliances are nullsec alliances is they don't want to live in lowsec, but apparently they should have to be forming fleets multiple times daily in lowsec to defend their gold-plated loot pinatas so their logistics don't shut down entirely? Yeah ok.

And it's not like the economy can live without nullsec industry because you can't operate reactors in highsec.

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