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Tarezax posted:tl;dr you were right to push that character off a cliff Yeah, BG3 has fantasy racism but is also very clear that the fantasy racists are dickheads rather than correct.
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Tarezax posted:I let that play out and the resolution of that quest is so infuriating (in a good? way) : The guys who take the githyanki kid magically age him up and teach him an incredibly strict moral code, one that they themselves didn't live up to. Between that and psychological and physical abuse, the kid snaps and kills them all. You encounter him in the basement of their building in Act 3 and can convince him to stand down by appealing to his actual moral center separate from the BS he was taught. The secret worst part of that quest is that you can't hatch that egg, and the owlbear egg, and get yourself more friends for your camp.
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TinTower posted:https://twitter.com/famedtrust/status/1728789529245499753?s=46 Wait, are they saying the character Rose is trans just because she's played by a trans woman? Is that what this is all about, it's just TERFs screaming and pissing themselves because a trans woman is on the telly?
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Clerical Terrors posted:Wait, are they saying the character Rose is trans just because she's played by a trans woman? Clerical Terrors posted:Is that what this is all about, it's just TERFs screaming and pissing themselves because a trans woman is on the telly?
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Clerical Terrors posted:Wait, are they saying the character Rose is trans just because she's played by a trans woman? Is that what this is all about, it's just TERFs screaming and pissing themselves because a trans woman is on the telly? The character is also trans, but uh, yeah. It is of course just "a trans person? EXISTING??" as per usual Powerful Two-Hander posted:"this is a cult of gender ideology!" says newspaper that writes about gender 10 times a week. I gotta say, that article is actually... sort of decent? It'd be nice if they just didn't include the bullshit from the hate group, but it features a nice bit about the actress and her career (and also spoils the whole episode lol)
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InediblePenguin posted:the character is also trans and that is plot-relevant, from what I've read It's not 'plot-relevant' in that the story literally requires a trans character to function, but it is a huge part of the character's treatment. There's a wonderful scene where her grandmother accidentally misgenders her and her mother corrects her and talks it out with her in a really natural way, I love it. The moment that article mentions, by the way, is when the Doctor off-handedly calls the alien of the week a 'he', is corrected with basically 'you don't know their pronouns', and he completely agrees with that and asks properly. Takes up, like, four seconds of screen time.
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I saw a set of gifs on Tumblr that had, like, the Doctor and Donna taking about how they are binary, one male one female, and somebody else is not and that's important to saving the day, and the framing implied they were talking about that trans character, so absolute lol if that's nonsense and the gifset was intentionally misleading haha
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InediblePenguin posted:I saw a set of gifs on Tumblr that had, like, the Doctor and Donna taking about how they are binary, one male one female, and somebody else is not and that's important to saving the day, and the framing implied they were talking about that trans character, so absolute lol if that's nonsense and the gifset was intentionally misleading haha I mean, that scene exists, but it's basically bigging up the fact that the person saving the day happens to be trans rather than 'the day is saved because of their transness'.
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Panfilo posted:https://twitter.com/mysteriouskat/status/1728855745817698715?t=F5aMetVANWjwUhxAQywQXQ&s=19 Gee, I wonder what difference there could be between various minority groups and a Whites-only meeting. If only there was some significant difference in the historical and current treatment... Nah, gotta be woke people gone mad and also segregation is good now.
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Cloacamazing! posted:Gee, I wonder what difference there could be between various minority groups and a Whites-only meeting. If only there was some significant difference in the historical and current treatment... Nah, gotta be woke people gone mad and also segregation is good now. Context is woke.
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Nuebot posted:Most fantasy media, and especially stuff that came out more than like twenty years ago, is pretty racist tbh. D&D in particular is steeped in it because it was created by a guy who was pretty proud of his lovely racist ideas, and the ones he cribbed off of the racist fantasy he liked to read. And a lot of that poo poo hasn't really gone away either, people just tend to only really bring it up when they're mad it's being thrown in the trash. Like, people don't talk all that much about how pretty much every one of the horde races in Warcraft are just various non-white cultural stereotypes painted in neon colours, and even before blizzard was super well known for being a trash fire of a company any attempt to discuss it would usually just be met by people shrugging their shoulders and not caring. Until any of the jokes or content was touched up or toned down in any way. Then people would be real mad about it. 'Goblin raiders are attacking settlements near the Whitepeak Mountains!' If the settlements were being attacked by (non-Dark) Elves or Dwarves or something the adventure would be 'Why is this happening? Let's figure out what's going on.' but because the people doing the attacking are Goblins the solution is 'go out to the mountains, find the goblin cave lair and murder everything inside'. In D&D, especially older editions, the kind of hilarious thing was that there were literally entire races of bad guy monsters you could battle all the way up the level ladder; you start out clearing Kobold warrens but move on to Goblin slums, Hobgoblin villages, Orc warbands, Bugbear hordes and so on and so on. I was one of the kids who played D&D and it was just the way things were and you were never asked to think about it and, at least back in the 90s and early 2000s, even the published game worlds and settings just rolled with it. It wasn't until I was like a grown up adult, sadly, that my brain finally went 'Wait if they have like blacksmiths and leatherworkers and animal trainers and wheelwrights and everything then they're just like... people. All the orcs and goblins and giants and stuff are just different kinds of people and my characters have spent the last decade plus going to their homes kicking in the doors and murdering everybody'.
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Human raiders are attacking our settlements in the Whitepeak Mountains! We must find their lair and destroy them all
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hawowanlawow posted:turns out orcs and goblins aren't real Whoa, that's racist
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Data Graham posted:Human raiders are attacking our settlements in the Whitepeak Mountains! We must find their lair and destroy them all Hey buddy, if you didn't want to get manifest destinied maybe you should have called them the Gnollpeak Mountains
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NorgLyle posted:One of the things that you don't ever really think about as a kid playing D&D or other fantasy games is that there's almost always this real fundamental baked in thing where entire races of creatures in the game are violent raiders and slavers and murderers and that's just how it is and you're never assumed to ask any questions about it. Start the session by handing out character sheets. Run the module, take notes End the session by taking out their "real" character sheets, which are their arrest warrants. Describe the session that just occurred in terms of what "really" happened - them breaking into a block of flats with a primarily minority population. Cringe and edgy grimdark as hell in retrospect, but for the time it was making a genuine point.
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NorgLyle posted:I was one of the kids who played D&D and it was just the way things were and you were never asked to think about it and, at least back in the 90s and early 2000s, even the published game worlds and settings just rolled with it. Same with stuff like taking prisoners - there's generally no provision for what happens if, instead of killing them, you subdue and capture the raiders. Most published adventures (and GMs) simply assume you will kill them and move on to the next lot. Even though there are explicit rules in D&D for non-lethally subduing enemies and plenty of spells that can be used to the same end, not to mention any other creative options players may come up with.
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Tiggum posted:Same with stuff like taking prisoners - there's generally no provision for what happens if, instead of killing them, you subdue and capture the raiders. Most published adventures (and GMs) simply assume you will kill them and move on to the next lot. Even though there are explicit rules in D&D for non-lethally subduing enemies and plenty of spells that can be used to the same end, not to mention any other creative options players may come up with.
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The same is true in video games though. And I don't think anyone is getting mad at themselves because they beat a level in Double Dragon. It's ok and healthy to separate fantasy from reality and engage with them differently.
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Splicer posted:I always forget the name of it but there was an RPG, uh, framing narrative? Online in the early 2000s that was something like: Greg Costikyan's Violence: http://www.costik.com/Violence%20RPG1.pdf
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Goa Tse-tung posted:props to BG3 for making nonlethal such an easy option, boos for essentially hiding it in the icon chaos Also it doesn't loving work. I non-lethally subdued the two brothers who were trying to rescue their sister from the hag and for the rest of that side quest the characters spoke and acted as though they were dead. I non-lethally subdued some of the goblins who were attacking the grove, but the one goblin prisoner inside was treated as the sole example of a goblin taken alive, and the ones I subdued never showed up again anywhere. It may flag them as "unconscious" rather than dead when you hover your mouse on them, but for all intents and purposes they're dead. It's a broken feature that was not properly implemented.
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Lumbermouth posted:Greg Costikyan's Violence: http://www.costik.com/Violence%20RPG1.pdf While Violence is a classic, they're thinking about Powerkill. https://johntynes.com/revland2000/rl_powerkill.html
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Fighting Trousers posted:You can literally still play 1st edition D&D and no one will come to your house and stop you. There's definitely a group of nerds who seem to believe that they "have" to update to the latest version of DnD, as if Mike Merles and Monte Cook are going to kick down your door, burn your 3rd ed books in front of you, and call you a bitch.
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now that's what i call content creation https://twitter.com/musamanzz/status/1728755318191186165
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repiv posted:now that's what i call content creation lmao I thought he was doing a joke
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hawowanlawow posted:turns out orcs and goblins aren't real Yes they are and they are called the British
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The Saddest Rhino posted:lmao I thought he was doing a joke along similar lines i thought this thread was going to be a sort of expose on black hat SEO methods but then it dawned on me that he just sees nothing wrong with doing this https://twitter.com/jakezward/status/1728032639402037610
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Wow I love searching for a thing and finding some lovely ai generated knock off thanks to our brave and brilliant disruptors 3.6 million times
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repiv posted:now that's what i call content creation I don't tiktok. Can someone explain what his viewers are watching? A video with a YouTuber on top and an unrelated game on the bottom, with subtitles?
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jjack229 posted:I don't tiktok. Can someone explain what his viewers are watching? A video with a YouTuber on top and an unrelated game on the bottom, with subtitles? Yes. That's exactly it. Those kinds of videos infest every platform right now.
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jjack229 posted:I don't tiktok. Can someone explain what his viewers are watching? A video with a YouTuber on top and an unrelated game on the bottom, with subtitles? it's a mixture of tiktok videos being vertical but the content he's stealing being horizontal so he needs to fill the space, and tiktok users apparently gravitating towards overstimulating content with multiple things going on at once at its most extreme there's like 3 unrelated videos playing at once, while a text to speech voice reads a 4th unrelated thing copy pasted from reddit or whatever
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repiv posted:it's a mixture of tiktok videos being vertical but the content he's stealing being horizontal so he needs to fill the space, and tiktok users apparently gravitating towards overstimulating content with multiple things going on at once I think it's also a thing to fool the copyright filters? That's what I've heard at least.
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