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Non Compos Mentis posted:kirk would have tried to gently caress the crystalline entity Freaky Deaky, dude!
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Sedgr posted:Romulans and Vulcans being genetically distinct doesn't make a whole lot of sense but there are a couple scenarios that work. One being that Romulans and Vulcans are more like Neanderthals and modern humans but they had a shared society that eventually collapsed and separated rather than an extinction. Another possibility being that since genetic manipulation is something that several races have utilised it makes a certain amount of sense that something similar happened with the Vulcans and Romulans. Since Vulcans are shown to have increased strength and abilities maybe they were the result of intentional tampering. Vulcan and Romulus having a big break over genetic manipulation resulting in a cultural divide that ends up with Romulus super suspicious and Vulcans being pretty isolationist themselves while conveniently forgetting anything they'd rather not think about. Would explain why Vulcans were so cautious around humans at first as well since having just come out of a eugenics war and maintaining human emotion, humans would seem to have taken the Romulan path that the Vulcans specifically dropped for Surak and logic. this kind of speculation and discussion is my absolute favorite thing about star trek I think Romulans are shown as above average strength the time travel snw fight scene Vulcans meeting post apocalypse newly ftl capable earthlings and deciding to take us under their wing as
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Flipswitch posted:Do the Romulans have the vulcan super strength? In my slashfics yes, in regular canon I’m not sure
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naem posted:this kind of speculation and discussion is my absolute favorite thing about star trek That's my fanfic! That the Vulcans use humanity as their military, basically, and specifically in hostilities with the Romulans.
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Vulcan 1 to humans: "Under no circumstances go to this sector of space. It is highly dangerous, and rife with hostile species and strange phenomena." Vulcan 2: "The humans are likely to disregard your warnings. And if they do so, it is likely that they will end up in conflict with the Romulans. Should we not-" Vulcan 1: "At this point, silence is logical."
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Nov 28, 2023 00:31
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i thought the big difference biologically is that romulans aren't really telepaths.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i thought the big difference biologically is that romulans aren't really telepaths. Weird cuz their foreheads are bigger
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Nov 28, 2023 00:40
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Gutcruncher posted:Weird cuz their foreheads are bigger And their shoulder pads.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i thought the big difference biologically is that romulans aren't really telepaths. They just forgot. Like how the vulcans did until ENT timeframe.
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Gutcruncher posted:Weird cuz their foreheads are bigger The extra head bones interfere with the telepathy.
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redshirt posted:That's my fanfic! That the Vulcans use humanity as their military, basically, and specifically in hostilities with the Romulans. from the Vulcan perspective, humans have provided a safety buffer between them and the dangers of the wider galaxy. Humans live less than half as long as they do and are friendly and eager to please (like dogs basically) humans are intelligent enough, with a few nudges in the right direction, to pick up new technologies, enough to keep ships running at least as long as a vulcan or two tag along as “science officers” to keep tabs it’s a pretty good return on investment. They can send Spock the half human to keep him out of everyone’s hair back home, or T’Pol with her obvious and distasteful human fetish. Vulcans probably didn’t expect human diplomacy aka the power of friendship to be so incredibly effective and the humies have outpaced Vulcans in a lot of ways. You have to wonder what their contingency plan is if we become a threat
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Nov 28, 2023 01:14
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Enterprise has an alternative take where one of the Vulcans eventually admits they're actually scared shitless of humans.
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MikeJF posted:Enterprise has an alternative take where one of the Vulcans eventually admits they're actually scared shitless of humans. If I recall it's like Nog telling Quark about human financial history - by their standards, humans catch on to poo poo dangerously fast
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Squiggle posted:If I recall it's like Nog telling Quark about human financial history - by their standards, humans catch on to poo poo dangerously fast No, it's because we remind them of themselves.
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naem posted:from the Vulcan perspective, humans have provided a safety buffer between them and the dangers of the wider galaxy. Too late to do anything about it now. They'd have had to put humanity in the box somewhere after Enterprise time frame for them to have a chance. They're just lucky we are like dogs. Eager to please! And fetch! Sometimes bitey, sorry.
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Squiggle posted:If I recall it's like Nog telling Quark about human financial history - by their standards, humans catch on to poo poo dangerously fast
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redshirt posted:Too late to do anything about it now. They'd have had to put humanity in the box somewhere after Enterprise time frame for them to have a chance. humans are the Gem Hadar but for diplomacy
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naem posted:humans are the Gem Hadar but for diplomacy But also blowing poo poo up
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Jem and the Hadargrams
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naem posted:Romulans are just territorial and independent Like Germany!
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Squiggle posted:If I recall it's like Nog telling Quark about human financial history - by their standards, humans catch on to poo poo dangerously fast Five thousand, ten thousand? What difference does it make? The speed of technological advancement isn't nearly as important as short-term quarterly gains.
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naem posted:from the Vulcan perspective, humans have provided a safety buffer between them and the dangers of the wider galaxy. The ENT perspective is that, Vulcans spent about 1000+ years getting their poo poo together, going from a blisteringly violent species to eventually becoming peaceful and tentatively exploring the galaxy. Humans meanwhile, went from catastrophe to post scarcity utopia in under 100 years, and already have a Warp 5 capable starship, so the Vulcans are very rightly very, very nervous of what on Earth we could do next.
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alexandriao posted:The ENT perspective is that, Vulcans spent about 1000+ years getting their poo poo together, going from a blisteringly violent species to eventually becoming peaceful and tentatively exploring the galaxy. Not only post scarcity but have now developed a philosophy that everyone should work toward the goal of the betterment of the species and the betterment of themselves.
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Hollismason posted:Not only post scarcity but have now developed a philosophy that everyone should work toward the goal of the betterment of the species and the betterment of themselves. Nog voice: what does that mean, exactly? It means that we don't need money.
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Arc Hammer posted:Nog voice: what does that mean, exactly? They literally have this exchange in the baseball card episode where Nog is like "So you need my money"
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Hollismason posted:They literally have this exchange in the baseball card episode where Nog is like "So you need my money" Ah, The Great Material Continuum.
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Hollismason posted:Not only post scarcity but have now developed a philosophy that everyone should work toward the goal of the betterment of the species and the betterment of themselves. I like the idea that humanity is Like That because they're also scared of themselves after WW3 so they make sure that nobody is ever wanting and they have lots and lots of other species friends to hold them accountable.
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I mean yeah sure the betterment of society and of themselves but Picards family owns a loving vineyard in France.
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Hollismason posted:I mean yeah sure the betterment of society and of themselves but Picards family owns a loving vineyard in France. How are you supposed to better yourself without mid wine to get blitzed off of
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Hollismason posted:I mean yeah sure the betterment of society and of themselves but Picards family owns a loving vineyard in France. Probably for exactly as long as they can be responsible stewards of it
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Requiring you to do manual vineyard labor drastically limits the demand for vineyard ownership
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PIC did establish that nobody else wanted it before Picard's dad moved the family back to it.
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It makes no sense! How do they even get laborers if there is no money.
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Hollismason posted:It makes no sense! How do they even get laborers if there is no money. For the satisfaction of spending days in the field (or mines)
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Hollismason posted:It makes no sense! How do they even get laborers if there is no money. Some people like to do things they couldn't if they needed money to live They may also get first dibs on wine, and the view is nice
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Given the amount of fiction written about people wanting to just go retire to a farm or something you think you couldn't find a dozen people who'd want to just do vinyard things?
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MikeJF posted:PIC did establish that nobody else wanted it before Picard's dad moved the family back to it. Everybody there could hear voices in the walls, almost like a collective of ghosts reaching out to them. It's said to have driven some residents insane.
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Humans in the future are pretty much humans of today but with some husky genes spliced in so that they love working for the sake of it.
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