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Sure we can still look behind waterfalls, but when's the last time you had to swim up a waterfall by mashing buttons so hard you started developing carpal tunnel and broke the controller? It's a lost art I tell ya
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The last time I tried that a bear reached in and grabbed my dude. 'Twas my last life, too.
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Caesar Saladin posted:They can't get rid of waterfall secrets because you're a jaded nerd in your 30s. There are still 12 year olds out there who feel joy when they find something behind a waterfall in a game, and there always will be. 12 year olds shouldn't be playing games those are for us jaded 30+ year olds, they should be working the mines. Fine on breaks they can play old games with the tropes I'll allow that because I'm such a nice person. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Nov 27, 2023 |
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Pinball has come a long way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOp7nv_VKSg
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Sorry but waterfalls peaked when earthbound made you put down the controller and not touch any buttons for 3 minutes. That made me so loving mad as a kid because it never occurred to me that I could use that time to go take a poo poo
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Nov 27, 2023 07:56
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Zeluth posted:Pinball has come a long way. I do think something is lost without having a physical playfield/ball but screens are getting to the point where it can be pretty convincing so I bet it's the smarter choice.
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This piddley what they have done. I am ashamed that this is what you have seen. VPForums for all you was once a
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Nov 27, 2023 08:28
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Most game endings aren't good but this one is
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Nov 27, 2023 18:13
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The Talos Principle 2 is my game of the year. It's one of the best I've played.
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Nov 27, 2023 18:38
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Zeluth posted:This piddley what they have done. I am ashamed that this is what you have seen. To be clear I was thinking about the full 4k 120+hz pinball cabinet setups not playing on a desktop. The illusion doesn't work if your staring at a vertical screen.
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Nov 27, 2023 18:59
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!Klams posted:The Talos Principle 2 is my game of the year. It's one of the best I've played. After hearing how great the first one was and finding it to be utter garbage, I am curious if TP2 is actually good this time.
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depends what you disliked about the first one, they did refine the mechanics to make the puzzles less fiddly overall
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Nov 27, 2023 19:33
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My take on the console vs PC thing is no-one ever made me fill in a form using Excel on a GameCube and I've never seen a PlayStation with Teams on it.
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I played Tears of the Kingdom for over 100 hours and enjoyed it a lot. It's one of my favorite games this year. It's also one of the most overrated games in history and kind of a crap sequel. Breath of the Wild is a much better game. TOTK leans super hard into all of the wrong things and doesn't improve on any of BOTWs shortcomings, in favor of doubling down on parts of the game that were already good and mostly just makes them worse. It's a really fun but unfocused game that mostly feels like sort of a mess.
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Nov 28, 2023 09:08
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Is there more dreadful phrase than 'productivity software'
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Who doesnt like spreadsheet software? You have all these numbers flying around in you head mocking you. Put them in their grid prison and force them to make all kinds of work for you.
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Vic posted:Who doesnt like spreadsheet software? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnffe374Upw
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Waltzing Along posted:After hearing how great the first one was and finding it to be utter garbage, I am curious if TP2 is actually good this time. Oh, no, you'll loving hate it. It's TP++, but like, +++++. One thing I don't like as much is it seems like they've signposted all the 'secret' puzzles this time around. That absolutely cannot be true given how insane some of the ones in the first game were. Actually, now I think about it, you could have missed the secret puzzles in the first game, and then I think I would probably have only rated it as highly as The Witness or something. It was all the crazy out of bounds stuff that made the first game so great. The reason I think it made the game 'great' and not just more fun, is because ... oh God I'm gonna use the term "Ludonarrative Harmony" unironically... but, yeah, the synthesis of plot and gameplay mechanics there was truly inspired. I suppose maybe the sequel is making a different point, hence the signposting. If this post sounds like I'm just huffing my own farts then, you know, yeah, fair. But I love that stuff. I love when people bother to put these subtexts in. Even when it's ham fisted like Bioshock, or when it borders on arch, like Braid / The Witness, or spoon fed, like Talos, I still enjoy it a lot. It's one of my favourite things. I dunno, like, the graphics in The Talos Principle 2 are really really lovely, and there are gorgeous mountains, forests and lakes, as well as mesmerizing huge monuments and intricate statues, and it's all really lovely to look at... And that is in itself a ... plot? point. Plot isn't the right word, but it's a theme that the game directly talks about. I enjoy that. I think it's because I'm a big dumb dumb. Like, sure, I'll look at an Unreal engine demo and go "Woah, this technology is amazing", but I might not consider the beauty of it the same way I would a tree, and dwell on why I make that distinction. I feel like playing something like TP2 it's like having someone sit and play with me that isn't a dullard give me the Socratic method and pull epiphanies out of my stupid bonebrain.
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veni veni veni posted:I played Tears of the Kingdom for over 100 hours and enjoyed it a lot. It's one of my favorite games this year. It's also one of the most overrated games in history and kind of a crap sequel. Breath of the Wild is a much better game. TOTK leans super hard into all of the wrong things and doesn't improve on any of BOTWs shortcomings, in favor of doubling down on parts of the game that were already good and mostly just makes them worse. It's a really fun but unfocused game that mostly feels like sort of a mess. I loved TOTK too but my thoughts were basically the complete opposite of this. I could not get into BOTW at all.
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i never really clicked with Breath of the Wild, I'm only like 2 hours into Tears but I love the way the world is broken up, it gives it more of a sense of adventure or something idk i doubt i'll finish it but its promising anyway, back to dota, apparently lone druid is broken just now
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Aladdin shows up at your balcony offering to show you the world on a magic carpet but you say nah, time for League.
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!Klams posted:Oh, no, you'll loving hate it. It's TP++, but like, +++++. One thing I don't like as much is it seems like they've signposted all the 'secret' puzzles this time around. That absolutely cannot be true given how insane some of the ones in the first game were. Talos Principle, The Witness, Braid could all learn a thing about story telling from Baba is You.
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Waltzing Along posted:Talos principle had a plot? Yep. A pretty cool one too. And the sequel runs with the ball really well. I'm surprised anyone in this thread was able to enjoy either game to be honest, they require an earnest credulity that's been beaten out of you all.
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I first picked up Talos Principle when it came out and thought it was an ok Portal like, but was put off by the pretentious writing and forgot about it after a few hours. Picked it back up like a year later and absolutely loving loved it. I think the first time I played it I didn't realize the pretentiousness was by design because I didn't get far enough. It's actually a very funny game with a great story. Loved the ending. Also that style of puzzle game is the best and no one else really makes them anymore. I hope I can finish Jedi Survivor in time to make TP2 my last game of 2023. Speaking of, I don't know if this is unpopular, but Jedi Survivor is fantastic and one of the best sequels to a mid game I have played in eons. It's a shame it got dragged so hard over performance issues cause it's one of the best games of 2023.
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George posted:Yep. A pretty cool one too. And the sequel runs with the ball really well. Having a plot can be forgiven if the puzzles in the puzzle game are fun.
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the plot in talos 1 is mostly in text you read on terminals you can find around the puzzle stages so if you wanna ignore it you can do so easily enough
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:the plot in talos 1 is mostly in text you read on terminals you can find around the puzzle stages so if you wanna ignore it you can do so easily enough I always wonder do people who read terminals/logs etc. not know books exist? Like there are whole stores filled with them as well as places where you can borrow them.
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I think reading is a much harder activity for some people, like it doesn't happen automatically like it's supposed to, and that's why they don't read stuff in games.
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Duck and Cover posted:I always wonder do people who read terminals/logs etc. not know books exist? Like there are whole stores filled with them as well as places where you can borrow them. I always wonder do people who watch cutscenes etc. not know TV/movies exist? Like there are whole stores filled with them as well as places where you can watch them.
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jokes posted:I always wonder do people who watch cutscenes etc. not know TV/movies exist? Like there are whole stores filled with them as well as places where you can watch them. this but unironically idk why anyone plays AAA storygames like red dead or last of us 5
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jokes posted:I always wonder do people who watch cutscenes etc. not know TV/movies exist? Like there are whole stores filled with them as well as places where you can watch them. Exactly.
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My problem with Talos was that I wanted it to be less predictable for a game about breaking away from the expected path. I've said it before, but I wanted more like an Icepick Lodge puzzler, like The Void or Pathologic but instead of a plague there are puzzles or something. It's not really the game's fault, I just had weird expectations. The game was fine, sort of like Portal but instead of funny jokes it has philosophy. I remember there was this AI you could chat with who was always questioning things and I assumed they were smart and appreciated lively discussion, but if you argue with them instead of agreeing with everything they say, they turn into a little bitch and kill themselves. I guess they were just a nihilist and it was my fault for having sympathy for nihilists. I'm glad I didn't take them with me into the real world.
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Talos 1 is freshman level philosophy and its funny to see anyone think its deep.
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Honestly if any sort of subject matter even reaches freshmen level in any form of popular media it's pretty rare. It's fine, freshman level is fun and beyond what most people are aware of anyway.
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Saying something is "freshman level philosophy" is like jerking it 10 times a day to something so extremely niche you can't even get it up unless it looks like you.
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Talos Principle 1 and 2 is cool and good. Though I feel they reduced the difficulty in the sequel, I only really got stumped by a few bonus puzzles. But it's always a balance in creating a puzzle game - you have to create something that the average player can complete and still feel smart for completing, go too far one way and it just feels like busywork, and go too far the other way and you end up with Snakebird.
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SPACE HOMOS posted:Talos 1 is freshman level philosophy and its funny to see anyone think its deep. You should make a PHD level philosophy video game then space homos
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