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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

CCP doesn't understand their own game and never have

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floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

Mr. Grinch posted:

john is the guy who still uses the R slur as recently as like 2022 and posts his fleet videos set to T swift or some other horrid dogshit

probably a good thing i forgot about him

the only goon fc i know is PROGODLEGUME

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

I feel your pain, I've spent the evening trying to round up about 25b in assets all stuck in AS. Not my idea of a good time.

I, too, feel pain with 25B stuck in my rear end

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

Ynglaur posted:

Weren't freighters introduced, like, 18 years ago?

Yes, like I said, circa 2006. I think freighters may have been late 05, it was the big patch before the one that brought outposts and dreads.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

OneEightHundred posted:

It's just dumb cause the whole reason nullsec alliances are nullsec alliances is they don't want to live in lowsec, but apparently they should have to be forming fleets multiple times daily in lowsec to defend their gold-plated loot pinatas so their logistics don't shut down entirely? Yeah ok.

this sounds like they wanted to lowsec groups to have a profitable export at the cost of having to defend said pinatas

doesn't seem like it worked

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

Cease to Hope posted:

this sounds like they wanted to lowsec groups to have a profitable export at the cost of having to defend said pinatas

doesn't seem like it worked
They already gave everywhere else profitable exports with the gas changes, but they still think nullsec has to be the one place where you have to live in multiple parts of space to do things.

And then if they start doing things in lowsec then people start whining about lowsec being taken over by the blue donut blob.

Bigbillthaboss
Feb 25, 2013

TRASH ASS EDGELORD,
PUT ME ON IGNORE

imperiusdamian posted:

How did we get from EVE to incest?

Us southerners have gotten more access to the internets.

Bigbillthaboss
Feb 25, 2013

TRASH ASS EDGELORD,
PUT ME ON IGNORE

Kaysette posted:

you all are reading corp mail?

the thing blinks and shows an 'unread #' - most people can ignore it, but I have to mark them all as unread or I can't focus...

also yeah you can change the blink settings but in-game configurations get dumpstered every other patch

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Bigbillthaboss posted:

Us southerners have gotten more access to the internets.

I dunno, not a lot of Big Booty Latina stepsisters getting stuck in the dryer in West Tennessee.

Unfortunately…

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

OneEightHundred posted:

It's just dumb cause the whole reason nullsec alliances are nullsec alliances is they don't want to live in lowsec, but apparently they should have to be forming fleets multiple times daily in lowsec to defend their gold-plated loot pinatas so their logistics don't shut down entirely? Yeah ok.

And it's not like the economy can live without nullsec industry because you can't operate reactors in highsec.

what alliance are you in where logisitcs astras are being attacked multiple times a day? ive been in several alliances and they are attacked very rarely, because everybody knows they cant kill them.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

floppyspud posted:

what alliance are you in where logisitcs astras are being attacked multiple times a day? ive been in several alliances and they are attacked very rarely, because everybody knows they cant kill them.
I mean in this hypothetical CCP-ideal world where you need to escort your freighters.

floppyspud
Jul 21, 2022

OneEightHundred posted:

I mean in this hypothetical CCP-ideal world where you need to escort your freighters.

Oh yeah, ok. thats not happening.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

OneEightHundred posted:

I mean in this hypothetical CCP-ideal world where you need to escort your freighters.

ascn used to do freighter escorts from the rear end end they used to live in. they would run 6-20 freighters and anyone who helped escort got a payout at the end.

i accidentally joined one once when i was pulling what i had out of there in my domi and got paid 50mil to get my spy out. :D

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022

Ynglaur posted:

Weren't freighters introduced, like, 18 years ago?

i regret to inform you that 2006 will be 18 years ago in just over a month

psilocybin laden
Jul 29, 2022

OneEightHundred posted:

They already gave everywhere else profitable exports with the gas changes, but they still think nullsec has to be the one place where you have to live in multiple parts of space to do things.

And then if they start doing things in lowsec then people start whining about lowsec being taken over by the blue donut blob.

yeah they gave lowsec like a lot of kinds of new sites and hosed industry, now everything is bottlenecked and gated on lowsec poo poo

supercapital parts, faction condensers, ess keys, mykoserocin gas, all the new facwar poo poo

it's silly

they get most of the stuff required to build stuff that they can neither build nor wholly use (I can't remember what the restrictions on supers and titans in low is, but I know you can't build them there)

at least they have not been complaining as loudly about the state of lowsec since the facwar changes (they were complaining before despite getting all the new money filled sites)

imperiusdamian
Dec 8, 2021

psilocybin laden posted:

i regret to inform you that 2006 will be 18 years ago in just over a month

Why would you hurt me like that?

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

ded posted:

ascn used to do freighter escorts from the rear end end they used to live in. they would run 6-20 freighters and anyone who helped escort got a payout at the end.

i accidentally joined one once when i was pulling what i had out of there in my domi and got paid 50mil to get my spy out. :D

lol yuppp, and then that program got shitcanned because the russians started setting up login traps halfway along the route ten plus jumps from anything and be long gone by the time anyone could put a blob together.

Turns out that advertising a weekly pinata party days in advance tends to attract party crashers, who knew

and yes the escorts were completely ineffective against anything except small gate camps because there was no combat doctrine or ship reimbursement and the money wasn't good enough to compensate for sitting in a fleet with a bunch of mouthbreathers for three hours

WilWheaton
Oct 11, 2006

It'd be hard to get bored on this ship!
Couldn't a carrier with a SMA full of cargo expanded iteron V's get pretty drat close to a JF's capacity before they restricted what could be in cargoholds for ships in the SMA?

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

WilWheaton posted:

Couldn't a carrier with a SMA full of cargo expanded iteron V's get pretty drat close to a JF's capacity before they restricted what could be in cargoholds for ships in the SMA?

Yes but for most applications mineral compression was more effective by that point, particularly once outposts became prevalent enough that factory slot availability wasn't the primary bottleneck for nullsec prodution anymore.

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.
Back for 24 hours and lost a 500m garmur to a gatecamp because I forgot what dscan is and didn't have my overview set up yet.

It's good to be back.

Nyan Bread
Mar 17, 2006

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

Back for 24 hours and lost a 500m garmur to a gatecamp because I forgot what dscan is and didn't have my overview set up yet.

It's good to be back.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/113595287/
What were you doing alone in a tackle Garmur? Were you trying to catch up with your dps gang in your tackle garmur? Why is there no point on your tackle garmur? Do you want a free T2 scram for your tackle garmur? And wb

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Almost as embarrassing as my first ever killmail being a blue-on-blue because I didn't have my UI set up right. RIP to that Daredevil, though really that was as much his fault for getting tackled by a poverty Rifter.

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.

Nyan Bread posted:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/113595287/
What were you doing alone in a tackle Garmur? Were you trying to catch up with your dps gang in your tackle garmur? Why is there no point on your tackle garmur? Do you want a free T2 scram for your tackle garmur? And wb

Nah, I was trying to consolidate stuff into a single station, it's a Burner fit garmur. I want to try and get it all out of there as I've got like 6+ others i think..we use to have a load of Astras set up around there

It's much busier here than I remember.

Dieting Hippo
Jan 5, 2006

THIS IS NOT A PROPER DIET FOR A HIPPO

Bloody Pom posted:

Almost as embarrassing as my first ever killmail being a blue-on-blue because I didn't have my UI set up right. RIP to that Daredevil, though really that was as much his fault for getting tackled by a poverty Rifter.

you were 100% correct to take and win that fight :colbert:

Nyan Bread
Mar 17, 2006

Ragnar Gunvald posted:

Nah, I was trying to consolidate stuff into a single station, it's a Burner fit garmur. I want to try and get it all out of there as I've got like 6+ others i think..we use to have a load of Astras set up around there

It's much busier here than I remember.

Don't worry if you ever end up shuttling to a new staging for a deployment, you'll get it ingrained into you to use bookmarks and perches to avoid a chain of smarbombing protei on the way.

Ragnar Gunvald
May 13, 2015

Cool and good.
I had a load saved in the area and just forgot about it.. I've been playing on and off since 2008. I'm just terribad.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



Dieting Hippo posted:

you were 100% correct to take and win that fight :colbert:

The funnier part is that the actual killshot was some other goon in a Thrasher who I'd roped into a gang. Nobody else realized the mistake until it was too late. At least we didn't pod the poor bastard :shobon:

imperiusdamian
Dec 8, 2021

Bloody Pom posted:

The funnier part is that the actual killshot was some other goon in a Thrasher who I'd roped into a gang. Nobody else realized the mistake until it was too late. At least we didn't pod the poor bastard :shobon:

Shoot blues -> tell Vile Rat.

Helpimscared
Jun 16, 2014

What happened to MINILUV? :(

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Is there any actual use case for all the faction forts in 1DQ, other than being a deterrent to not gently caress about the Imperial Pallis that is? Like, one is staging for carriers, another one for dreads, one is for logi...

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Helpimscared posted:

What happened to MINILUV ? :(
HOLESQUAD

ftfy

:aaaaa:

Horsebanger
Jun 25, 2009

Steering wheel! Hey! Steering wheel! Someone tell him to give it to me!

froody guy posted:

Is there any actual use case for all the faction forts in 1DQ, other than being a deterrent to not gently caress about the Imperial Pallis that is? Like, one is staging for carriers, another one for dreads, one is for logi...

it looks cool.


I think if you were doing defense you just have nearly infinite tether anchor points to warp around to

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

froody guy posted:

Is there any actual use case for all the faction forts in 1DQ, other than being a deterrent to not gently caress about the Imperial Pallis that is? Like, one is staging for carriers, another one for dreads, one is for logi...
IIRC they're mainly there to clog up grid space and make it way harder to siege the Keepstar.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
There are still people in BARVE leadership that really believe that the only thing stopping them and PAPI winning the war was server performance, though I hope that now they've had time to really study the palace keepstar grid and the Querns Hardpoint they realise that they are in fact idiots. Useful idiots who will serve as a perfect meatshield when the rest of the game comes for GSF again, but still idiots

froody guy
Jun 25, 2013

Server performance saved their fat lazy assess big time when their supercaps weren't annihilated by that boson trap somewhere I don't remember anymore.

Bug worked as intended, I guess.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
The only thing the server saved in M2 round two was a lot more titans dying to the heavy fighter ball of death. I have no idea how many titan DD's you need to volley a super off the field, but they were also facing up losing 30 titans per volley to that death ball (DD cooldown is 10 minutes, right?). Also, if they somehow got into 1DQ, they'd lose 500 titans straight up just killing the Backup Star and had proved in the time after M2 they didn't have the capacity or organisation to replace those sorts of numbers quickly or efficiently. M2 round 1 won the war, everything else was just playing for time before an exit - which turned out to be extremely humiliating and funny - could be made

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
by the eula papi won the war

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
a technical win, the best kind of win

Vanadium
Jan 8, 2005

How many loving titans do people have these days?

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ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Vanadium posted:

How many loving titans do people have these days?

so many that ccp broke capital production to stop them from being made

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