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event horizon just had an episode with some physicist/nuclear/space/mars colony enthusiast. some of the things mentioned: - resources are actually unlimited because they are created by humans. any idea of limits is malthusian rubbish - all environmental movements are just cover for totalitarianism - living on mars will be easy because they will just use new technology to produce as much food as a 1000 acre farm inside a building the size of a house overall pretty funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33aPPLPX2RY
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Nov 27, 2023 23:22
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that wheelies on the moon thing made my afternoon
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Nov 27, 2023 23:43
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munce posted:- living on mars will be easy because they will just use new technology to produce as much food as a 1000 acre farm inside a building the size of a house Is this the right thread to discuss how "vertical gardening' and hydroponics are just ways to get investors to pay for setups to grow expensive lettuce, and are as much a scam as any other tech that is supposed to save us all? Any time I see them touted as a solution for space travel or climate apocalypse, all I can think is that I hope people enjoy eating 30 pounds of lettuce every day.
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Nov 28, 2023 00:22
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Arven posted:Is this the right thread to discuss how "vertical gardening' and hydroponics are just ways to get investors to pay for setups to grow expensive lettuce, and are as much a scam as any other tech that is supposed to save us all? It’s a scam in the same way that organic foods are. There are a lot of good concepts that we could better utilize to improve the way we grow food, but there’s no real added value to the consumer above any other vegetable. E: I guess having a habitual planet counts as value to some.
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Nov 28, 2023 00:28
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we ALREADY produce food with a magical technology
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Nov 28, 2023 01:01
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:we ALREADY produce food with a magical technology all hail commodity futures
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Nov 28, 2023 01:34
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Source4Leko has issued a correction as of 06:24 on Nov 29, 2023 |
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Nov 28, 2023 01:52
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Trabisnikof posted:sure maybe we can find the energy budget for a space program in a decarbonized economy, but demanding we spend significant resources on space now while any delay in decarbonization causes massive harms requires ignoring that reality one of the material goals of the white billionaire TESCREAL ethos is to move industry to space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQjCrbdRn4s
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Nov 28, 2023 01:58
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Unless posted:one of the material goals of the white billionaire TESCREAL ethos is to move industry to space Praise climate change that this will never happen.
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Nov 28, 2023 02:09
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Arven posted:Is this the right thread to discuss how "vertical gardening' and hydroponics are just ways to get investors to pay for setups to grow expensive lettuce, and are as much a scam as any other tech that is supposed to save us all? the wonderful thing about the all encompassing nature of biosphere collapse is that every technology that has marketers blathering about how it'll be revolutionary and save us all is on topic
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Nov 28, 2023 02:16
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Unless posted:one of the material goals of the white billionaire TESCREAL ethos is to move industry to space this is just PR to justify billionaire dickwaving contests like private space companies
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Nov 28, 2023 02:24
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:this is just PR to justify billionaire dickwaving contests like private space companies bezos is a big "long now" guy, so he certainly really believes that our civilization will last for 10,000+ years. like one of their big things is to prefix years with 00 as some sort of like mind opener about how long we can make civilization last. like the current year is 002023 bezos also built a giant clock inside a mountain that's supposed to work for thousands of years without human maintenance. he's really drunk the Flavor-aid
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Nov 28, 2023 02:33
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Trabisnikof posted:bezos is a big "long now" guy, so he certainly really believes that our civilization will last for 10,000+ years. I guarantee that whoever built that giant clock isn't thinking about a Star Trek utopian future, he's thinking about post-apocalyptic 'primitives' finding it and being wowed like it's a magic precursor dungeon in an RPG.
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Nov 28, 2023 02:39
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bezos was born rich and sold books but on the internet. because of this he flies around on a private jet and has a for funsies space company in a time of human-caused environmental collapse. he doesn't know poo poo about gently caress
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Nov 28, 2023 03:21
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:bezos was born rich and sold books but on the internet. because of this he flies around on a private jet and has a for funsies space company in a time of human-caused environmental collapse. he doesn't know poo poo about gently caress what about his gallivanting around Hollywood and (alleged) copious consumption of bodybuilding drugs
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Nov 28, 2023 04:01
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Shyrka posted:I guarantee that whoever built that giant clock isn't thinking about a Star Trek utopian future, he's thinking about post-apocalyptic 'primitives' finding it and being wowed like it's a magic precursor dungeon in an RPG. I guarantee you that whoever built that clock was smart enough to build it to last their own estimated lifetime + maybe 5-10 years and laughed all the way to the bank about it. The person who commissioned it might be doing what you said, but he's a worthless talentless hack and couldn't build a clock if you gave him a stick and directions.
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Nov 28, 2023 07:59
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I'm reading prophet song about a fascist government coming to power in Ireland. It really captures being a parent and loving stupid liberal thinking. I'm half way through and it's reality repeatedly bashing against a rules believer.
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Nov 28, 2023 08:30
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/sovereingty-act-clean-electricity-regulations-1.7041533Some Daft Canuck posted:Alberta invokes Sovereignty Act over federal clean electricity regulations [Biosphere Collapse] Risky and Costly
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Nov 28, 2023 10:55
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bezos is fuelled by bull shark testosterone
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Nov 28, 2023 11:57
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When people say Net Zero all I can think of is that lovely internet they used to have
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Nov 28, 2023 12:02
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whenever i hear net-zero i think of the yellow 'beccs' part of these ipcc graphs 5 - 10 gigatons per year that would require an exponentially larger farming-for-energy industry than the current one we have for corn ethanol and its already assumed in the models. its not a "we could try this" suggestion, its "in order to stay under 2C we assume this will happen."
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Nov 28, 2023 14:09
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Aren’t we already at 2C? Or is it only temporary 
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Nov 28, 2023 14:49
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Ihmemies posted:Aren’t we already at 2C? Or is it only temporary It's temporary until it gets to 2.5
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Nov 28, 2023 14:58
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Temporarily embarrassed biosphere
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Nov 28, 2023 15:02
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Ihmemies posted:Aren’t we already at 2C? Or is it only temporary Probably something like 2C averaged over a year, not just a short excursion over the threshold.
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Nov 28, 2023 15:02
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had thought we were actually running 1.3-1.6 with occasional spikes higher. guess it depends what time/measurements are being used though
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Nov 28, 2023 15:44
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earth is venus 2
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Nov 28, 2023 15:48
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Owlbear Camus posted:earth is venus 2 by god we'll beat venus one day
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Nov 28, 2023 15:52
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Ihmemies posted:Aren’t we already at 2C? Or is it only temporary Yes, we're already dead, you just keep hallucinating that you and everyone else still goes to work. You monster.
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Nov 28, 2023 16:15
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Ihmemies posted:Aren’t we already at 2C? Or is it only temporary We have had a few days above 2C but, even after all our efforts, we're still not there. soon
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Nov 28, 2023 16:28
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Car Hater posted:Yes, we're already dead, you just keep hallucinating that you and everyone else still goes to work. what you’re saying is that it isn’t that bad yet
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Nov 28, 2023 16:28
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Dokapon Findom posted:When people say Net Zero all I can think of is that lovely internet they used to have net zero was awesome because you could edit/delete a file to get rid of the banner ad and be left with Free Internet
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Nov 28, 2023 17:02
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mags posted:what you’re saying is that it isn’t that bad yet I'm at work so it's pretty poo poo tbh
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Nov 28, 2023 17:13
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my understanding from Twitter is that this year we have hit several days over 2C but more significantly this will likely be the first time where the whole year’s average is over 1.5C that still doesn’t “count” as 1.5C yet because it’s not a multi year average but we’re getting there
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Nov 28, 2023 17:14
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if it's not from the 1.5C region, it's just sparkling heat* * the sparkling is dissolved gas coming out of solution
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Nov 28, 2023 17:36
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bawfuls posted:my understanding from Twitter is that this year we have hit several days over 2C but more significantly this will likely be the first time where the whole year’s average is over 1.5C We can just keep averaging down forever like a Gamestop hodler.
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Nov 28, 2023 18:34
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good news! Green coal! It's Coal! It's Green! Climate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJzFYL9Zwi8
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Nov 28, 2023 19:00
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TeenageArchipelago posted:good news! Green coal! It's Coal! It's Green! Climate
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Nov 28, 2023 19:25
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it is amazing the degree to which people will trade vague rumors and guesses rather than just look poo poo up https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/temperature-anomaly
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Nov 28, 2023 19:50
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MightyBigMinus posted:it is amazing the degree
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