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Was bummed out how not great Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon was. And how the switch game is just a remake of the first...
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Kale posted:Frankly I'm surprised the Trials of Mana remake turned out as good as it did considering Square Enix was even more of a trashfire of out of touch corporate business think in 2020-2021 then it is now. I'm still not convinced their new CEO is going to be able to right the ship and fix their PR and braindead ideas for GAAS problem, but that one turned out alright unlike the secret of mana one i mean the business side and the game making side of square enix have always been pretty cut off. they're a massive company to the point where a lot of projects and parts of management feel like they operate pretty separate from each other, some actively confirmed to operate separate from each other in the case of all the stories about how they managed their western subsidiaries like eidos when they still owned them. as much as you can talk about stuff like symbiogenesis it's telling that none of those projects really involve square's better known staff, and there's extra weird and funny poo poo like babylon's fall just not really being their idea at all and chocobo gp being such a trash fire that they did actually go back and patch out all of the gaas crap, not that a lot of people seem to have noticed. also a funny thing to note about the trials of mana remake is that it was co-developed by the same studio as paranormasight and the k-on video game for psp
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Nov 28, 2023 18:06
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i feel like when you're talking square enix you need to bear in mind that nothing about their corporate thinking is really unique they're just way more forward about it than other companies. it's not a stretch to imagine that basically every other one of these mega big video game companies has people at the top thinking and pushing for the same crap, bandai namco's about the same size as square enix and i certainly wouldn't call them more competent, just less vocal about their incompetence. at least square enix seems to have a pretty steady commitment to employing and providing ample resources for proper translation staff
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Nov 28, 2023 18:08
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yeah like, i struggle to see how S-E's statements on GAAS are significantly dumber than the poo poo Sony is doing right now
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Nov 28, 2023 18:10
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doubling down on blockchain after the crash does seem quite stupid though, not that it has almost anything to do with games yeah
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My favorite story about the Square Enix corporate end was the CEO determining where to set up their headquarters by determining the ideal location via fortune telling.
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So I'm just gonna ask and risk getting roasted: is there anything obvious I'm missing as a non-Pokémon player, or is the entire challenge and gameplay loop of the PMD titles "manage your four special move pools and run more than you fight"? The expanding depth of dungeons plus the fact that you never had a basic attack worth a poo poo meant my brain could never reliably strategize since I was out of PP halfway into the places, especially when bosses became complete tanks and I didn't have the items or skill tricks other mystery dungeon games offered for crowd control or desperation.
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Nov 28, 2023 18:12
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the strangest thing about square enix is seeing the split in responses to their lower budget game releases, with some people praising it as a fun throwback to the era of budget ps2 games and something more publishers should be doing, and some people way too caught up in se's dumb public statements and negative pr dismissing them as throwaway zero effort garbage. i'm not sure how square enix has managed to cultivate such strong hate towards them from some people while being relatively harmless compared to a lot of other game companies, i'm not exactly gonna say they're a poor underdog getting beat up on but it really feels like it shows how much more willing some people are to get swept up in image over a company actually doing anything hosed up and objectionableRascyc posted:doubling down on blockchain after the crash does seem quite stupid though, not that it has almost anything to do with games yeah i doubt any of it will materialize honestly. they already tried releasing a project that was visibly doomed just because they felt they'd dumped too much money in and i doubt they're as happy with forspoken's sales as they are with ff16's CullenDaGaDee posted:My favorite story about the Square Enix corporate end was the CEO determining where to set up their headquarters by determining the ideal location via fortune telling. if nothing else the history of public clownery with square enix's ceos is really funny. they know how to appoint some very entertaining people
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claw game handjob posted:So I'm just gonna ask and risk getting roasted: is there anything obvious I'm missing as a non-Pokémon player, or is the entire challenge and gameplay loop of the PMD titles "manage your four special move pools and run more than you fight"? The expanding depth of dungeons plus the fact that you never had a basic attack worth a poo poo meant my brain could never reliably strategize since I was out of PP halfway into the places, especially when bosses became complete tanks and I didn't have the items or skill tricks other mystery dungeon games offered for crowd control or desperation. You shouldn’t need to be running from fights to conserve pp outside of maybe a bad situation in one of the postgame level reset dungeons. Specifics will depend on the exact game but generally elixirs drop often enough that you can just get by on what you find as long as you don’t have nothing but low pp attacks or all your moves linked together or something.
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Plus there's not really anything stopping you from doing cold runs to hoard Max Elixirs in storage and then pull out however many you need for the next proper dungeon, save for the bonus dungeons that prevent you from carrying in any items.
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The Colonel posted:i feel like when you're talking square enix you need to bear in mind that nothing about their corporate thinking is really unique they're just way more forward about it than other companies. it's not a stretch to imagine that basically every other one of these mega big video game companies has people at the top thinking and pushing for the same crap, bandai namco's about the same size as square enix and i certainly wouldn't call them more competent, just less vocal about their incompetence. at least square enix seems to have a pretty steady commitment to employing and providing ample resources for proper translation staff Can’t speak for SA, but people really do have strong feelings about SE stuff in some places. And as mentioned, SE is more willing to be forthcoming about underperforming stuff than some others which can fuel the fire. At the very least, I feel like SE has been in a way better spot than the FF13 days comparatively. I have seen people elsewhere *really* wanting SE to have a Capcom moment of back-to-back multimillion blockbusters
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Nov 28, 2023 18:31
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the public image of capcom is so weird cause yeah they've made a lot of really good games but you got people treating that as a Capcom Redemption at the same time as them recasting everyone in resident evil to shake off union vas lol
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Nov 28, 2023 18:42
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i have a slight bias though because i didnt like the re4 remake nearly as much as anyone else did and i really didn't like re village
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Nov 28, 2023 18:42
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The Colonel posted:i have a slight bias though because i didnt like the re4 remake nearly as much as anyone else did and i really didn't like re village Same.
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Nov 28, 2023 18:51
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Capcom had to cannibilize a bunch of studios to get Monster Hunter World off the ground and gamble their company on it. The gamble worked out for them but it did cost a lot of jobs in the process. I guess that's business for you, I don't think they deserve a pedestal or anything. I don't think any game company deserves a pedestal in fact
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Nov 28, 2023 19:14
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Rascyc posted:doubling down on blockchain after the crash does seem quite stupid though, not that it has almost anything to do with games yeah what big NFT products has square produced
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Nov 28, 2023 19:22
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if you mention selling the bad western studios i will do every ff7 limit break on you
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Nov 28, 2023 19:23
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Endorph posted:if you mention selling the bad western studios i will do every ff7 limit break on you But that would include Aerith's so you'd merely be making them invincible and giving them a full Limit bar themselves.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:25
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They just released digital pogs for their "Web3 based game" Symbiogenesis, but I get the feeling that it's never actually going to come out since the game actually existing isn't a factor in their ability to sell pogs.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:26
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if anyone at square enix had any real faith in symbiogenesis amounting to anything they would've killed themselves trying to get someone like nomura doing the art for it. the fact that it has literally none of square enix's notable artists involved kind of shows how much it is being sent out to die
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Nov 28, 2023 19:27
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it also does not seem like a very high-effort production. 'doubling down' and 'going all in' implies a ton of money being spent, not what looks like it could have been made for a ham sandwich
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Nov 28, 2023 19:27
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Endorph posted:did they actually double down on blockchain
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babylon's fall is the funniest and saddest one cause it's easy to assume that was a game twisted by the evil producers into a gaas online game. but unfortunately based on all publicly available information, it would seem its evil producers are at platinum, not square enix
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Nov 28, 2023 19:30
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SE sold the Deus Ex team before they could make a third Adam Jensen game, this is their most unforgivable sin in that sale
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The Colonel posted:babylon's fall is the funniest and saddest one cause it's easy to assume that was a game twisted by the evil producers into a gaas online game. but unfortunately based on all publicly available information, it would seem its evil producers are at platinum, not square enix Platinum has/had been trying for years to get some sort of online multiplayer thing off the ground and by all reports was just loving awful at it. Scalebound was going to be their big shot at it and then that got canned. Honestly I fully expect them to be acquired by Nintendo or S-E pretty soon. Everything we hear is that they're like five seconds away from bankruptcy at all times.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:32
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it's kind of a shame anarchy reigns got left behind the way it did cause i feel like that was their best shot at it but it just came out at the exact wrong time and didn't really get marketed well. everything they tried after that seems so bloated and unappealing
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MechaX posted:SE sold the Deus Ex team before they could make a third Adam Jensen game, this is their most unforgivable sin in that sale They should have sold them before they made a second
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Nov 28, 2023 19:35
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and then we got a bayonetta game with four different writers, leaving us with the ultimate puzzle to solve: which one of them is responsible for the story being a horrible pile of poo poo?
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Nov 28, 2023 19:36
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The Colonel posted:and then we got a bayonetta game with four different writers, leaving us with the ultimate puzzle to solve: which one of them is responsible for the story being a horrible pile of poo poo? Kamiya at least has taken full-rear end blame on that particular element, with him saying Bayonetta 3 was part of like a 7 game plan that will never get finished now.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:38
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Feels Villeneuve posted:They should have sold them before they made a second If Human Revolution had a good ending, I would have been fine with them leaving it at that Instead it didn’t, and Mankind Divided despite its issues set up so many hooks that will never get resolved
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Nov 28, 2023 19:38
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not gonna lie after two games with unsatisfying stories largely resulting from being in the weird position of having to basically reboot the franchise but still wanting to act like they were making a prequel even though basically nothing about human revolution slots that well into the original deus ex, a game which itself struggled to make a coherent continuation to its own story, i don't think the third time was going to be the charm
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Nov 28, 2023 19:41
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Making robot arms a civil rights issue one of the main themes for two entire games was just a bad idea too imo
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Nov 28, 2023 19:42
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ImpAtom posted:Kamiya at least has taken full-rear end blame on that particular element, with him saying Bayonetta 3 was part of like a 7 game plan that will never get finished now. Kinda surprised at this, thought he would have doubled down or something. Did he chill out?
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Nov 28, 2023 19:43
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Eh, the idea of cybernetic limbs being used as a method of control is pretty basic-rear end cyberpunk, I don't think that's necessarily a problem. They just didn't have anywhere to go with it.Electric Phantasm posted:Kinda surprised at this, thought he would have doubled down or something. He left the company.
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Nov 28, 2023 19:43
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They might have pulled it off with better writers and not saying things like "mechanical apartheid", but we'll never know for sure
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kamiya left platinum over "creative differences" with the upper management. considering the game he was making is the only thing they have coming out soon and it doesn't seem anywhere near finished it was probably messy
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kirbysuperstar posted:They might have pulled it off with better writers and not saying things like "mechanical apartheid", but we'll never know for sure Yeah, you could tell an interesting story about it but apartheid against people with cyber eyes was not it
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ImpAtom posted:Eh, the idea of cybernetic limbs being used as a method of control is pretty basic-rear end cyberpunk, I don't think that's necessarily a problem. They just didn't have anywhere to go with it. The Colonel posted:kamiya left platinum over "creative differences" with the upper management. considering the game he was making is the only thing they have coming out soon and it doesn't seem anywhere near finished it was probably messy poo poo completely missed that
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Electric Phantasm posted:Kinda surprised at this, thought he would have doubled down or something. I doubt he's chilled out. He seems as eccentric as always
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