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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

CheetoVonTito posted:

Can you add this to your sticker collection?



It stands to be accused of minimizing the Shoah

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The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Mushika posted:

Thank you! Unfortunately, my studies were fairly limited to specific literary studies from roughly the beginning of the Holy Roman Empire to the Haskalah of the late 1700's, and I haven't maintained any scholarship in the area for about twenty years, so I don't really have any right to contribute to any discussion about Judaism specifically. I could probably tell you more about how the rise of Jewish Romanticism in the Middle Ages led to the later Jewish Enlightenment (the Haskalah I mentioned) or how late medieval Jewish multilingual typesetting influenced printing presses and fonts of later centuries, but even then, my knowledge of those areas are eroding from my brain as fast as my grasp of Swahili studies from the same time period are.

I really need to stop reading garbage entertainment crap and get my aging brain back into gear.

stop by the marx thread and read some capital.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

Sancho Banana posted:

You've already heard of raving outside a concentration camp, but what about a ghost rave in the same spot?

https://twitter.com/haim_goldberg/status/1729445541963034682?t=G9Ot-9xPMs0ZGazmtCbLhg&s=19

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

E Depois do Adeus posted:

Considering the amount of "smart" technology apparently inside a merkava, does it save data on when/where/what direction the main gun gets fired?

no. it's smart enough to turn its tank body cam off prior to the war crimes happening

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Your Brain on Hugs posted:

Want to thank Al-Saqr and Sancho and the other Arabic and Hebrew speakers for posting in this thread, there's so much information you never get if you only listen to English language media. Wild that most western anglos probably believe they're getting all sides of this conflict when they cant even understand the languages of the two sides. You can really see it in the difference between the messaging Israel puts out in English versus what it puts out in Hebrew.

One of the annoying things about trying to talk about this stuff with others is that, when they ask where I'm getting my information, it's hard to explain "well I discuss this stuff for hundreds of pages on an internet forum thread where people link to various tweets and articles."

I think the biggest disconnect for most older people is that they can't really comprehend the idea of actively discussing topics like this (since it's always been pretty difficult to do before the internet - people just passively absorbed information from the media of their choice). I'm pretty sure my parents think that I get my beliefs/ideas from listening to a podcast or something. From their perspective, that's just how you learn about current events - from finding/choosing media you like and listening to it.

While people joke about "posting," I think the sort of thing we do here is unironically one of the better ways of engaging with media. It's not just you seeing the various articles/tweets/etc, but also lots of other people, so you can see other people point out if things are wrong, etc. And it also just means a lot more eyes finding information and showing it to others. I think an internet forum is one of the better contexts for this, because it doesn't have the issues Twitter/Facebook have with being manipulated by the algorithm, or Reddit elevating popular posts to the top. It's basically just "a chatroom that is slower and encourages longer individual posts."

Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 18:32 on Nov 28, 2023

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Cerebral Bore posted:

now i'm not a doctor man, but if you're denied lifesaving medication for almost two months straight then shouldn't you be kinda dead?

if she were that sick she would've been released like the other old lady was weeks ago.

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Elden Lord Godfrey posted:

Not their best soldiers, rather the most politically reliable. You don't need battlefield prowess to be a prison guard (just look at the IDF!). Rather, you want politically reliable guards who are willing and able to act with their strategic interest in play: keep their hostages alive and in good condition.

Unlike how Israel has been treating Palestinian prisoners, with summary executions and beatings and abuse.

sounds like israel put their most politically reliable dudes on hostage duty as well but that israel politics are fascist

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Would Maimonides support Gaza and if so can I put it on a sticker?

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
from one of the Palestinian students shot in Burlington, VT

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Pf. Hikikomoriarty posted:

genocide by the west has been justified repeatedly in economic terms and is in fact foundational to the liberal economic project

for example, locke has a whole thing justifying the theft of land from the native americans when he is establishing the liberal idea of land as property

ok.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Joementum posted:

from one of the Palestinian students shot in Burlington, VT



anyone refer to this statement as antisemitic yet

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
bernie, perhaps?

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

so sickening that in 2023 America you can get shot just for palin' around in public

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

aBagorn posted:

Seems the IOF is finally starting it's counter-propaganda campaign of "no they were only nice for the camera, they were really brutal animals" today

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-forced-hostage-kids-to-watch-videos-of-oct-7-atrocities-family-member-says/

“what should we say Hamas did to this 12 year old boy they had captive?”

“just say what we do to the Palestinian 12 year olds we hold captive”

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

aBagorn posted:

Seems the IOF is finally starting it's counter-propaganda campaign of "no they were only nice for the camera, they were really brutal animals" today

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-forced-hostage-kids-to-watch-videos-of-oct-7-atrocities-family-member-says/

“When he arrived in Gaza, all of the residents, all of them, beat him up. He’s a 12-year-old child,” all two million residents of Gaza, even the babies, beat up this 12 year old.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

I said come in! posted:

“When he arrived in Gaza, all of the residents, all of them, beat him up. He’s a 12-year-old child,” all two million residents of Gaza, even the babies, beat up this 12 year old.

Whats the boys home country

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:

Calibanibal posted:

Would Maimonides support Gaza and if so can I put it on a sticker?

unfortunately, a lot of folks use maimonides to justify wars, killing civilians, and pre-emptive strikes. now me, i think he'd poo poo his pants over guided missiles.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

I said come in! posted:

“When he arrived in Gaza, all of the residents, all of them, beat him up. He’s a 12-year-old child,” all two million residents of Gaza, even the babies, beat up this 12 year old.

the children and babies who died did not beat him up. bless the IAF

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I said come in! posted:

“When he arrived in Gaza, all of the residents, all of them, beat him up. He’s a 12-year-old child,” all two million residents of Gaza, even the babies, beat up this 12 year old.

from a linked story claiming hamas forced the hostages to smile & wave & write nice letters:

https://twitter.com/Ostrov_A/status/1729383145345077426
https://twitter.com/ofirgendelman/status/1728673829407379718
https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1729205029918138770

Sherbert Hoover
Dec 12, 2019

Working hard, thank you!

Sancho Banana posted:

You've already heard of raving outside a concentration camp, but what about a ghost rave in the same spot?

https://twitter.com/haim_goldberg/status/1729445541963034682?t=G9Ot-9xPMs0ZGazmtCbLhg&s=19

sick beats, Senator

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Willa Rogers posted:

from a linked story claiming hamas forced the hostages to smile & wave & write nice letters:

I saw those! Really desperate attempts to twist all of the footage as much as possible to make this seem like it was propaganda, when there is absolutely no reason why it would be.

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

meanwhile the most moral country on earth

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1729489279716401528?s=46&t=YjAdrC5z2HpTKJK1s-6pYw

https://twitter.com/shailjapatel/status/1729252378661224536?s=46&t=YjAdrC5z2HpTKJK1s-6pYw

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Sancho Banana posted:

You've already heard of raving outside a concentration camp, but what about a ghost rave in the same spot?

https://twitter.com/haim_goldberg/status/1729445541963034682?t=G9Ot-9xPMs0ZGazmtCbLhg&s=19

[extremely french voice]

shoutout to der families

Sherbert Hoover
Dec 12, 2019

Working hard, thank you!
hamas could do the funniest thing at the ghost rave

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

how exactly would you even be able to force someone who's being released to do a pr stunt? like, what are you gonna do, shoot them in front of rolling cameras?

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Sancho Banana posted:

You've already heard of raving outside a concentration camp, but what about a ghost rave in the same spot?

https://twitter.com/haim_goldberg/status/1729445541963034682?t=G9Ot-9xPMs0ZGazmtCbLhg&s=19

its not proper tribute unless the DJ gets strafed by panicked apache pilots

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

Cerebral Bore posted:

how exactly would you even be able to force someone who's being released to do a pr stunt? like, what are you gonna do, shoot them in front of rolling cameras?

stop giving israel ideas

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Sherbert Hoover posted:

hamas could do the funniest thing at the ghost rave

give hamas proton packs

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

I said come in! posted:

I saw those! Really desperate attempts to twist all of the footage as much as possible to make this seem like it was propaganda, when there is absolutely no reason why it would be.

Note: If you ever see the word "Pallywood" in a post, it's an extreme fascist. Usually worse than normal zionists. It's a combination of Palestine + Hollywood and is used to deny/dehumanize any suffering of the Palestinian people portrayed in media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallywood

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Cerebral Bore posted:

how exactly would you even be able to force someone who's being released to do a pr stunt? like, what are you gonna do, shoot them in front of rolling cameras?

Yeah, if they were forced, they'd just immediately reveal it after leaving the presence of Hamas (and Israel would be super happy to broadcast it).

Also, children wouldn't exactly have the acting training required to hide the fact that they're being threatened lol. The whole concept is just bonkers.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Joementum posted:

from one of the Palestinian students shot in Burlington, VT



Such grace

Such dignity

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

FlapYoJacks posted:

Note: If you ever see the word "Pallywood" in a post, it's an extreme fascist. Usually worse than normal zionists. It's a combination of Palestine + Hollywood and is used to deny/dehumanize any suffering of the Palestinian people portrayed in media.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallywood

That is what I figured it was. i've been reporting those tweets for racism.

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

At the end of the day Israel is the ones carrying out an actual genocide and ethhnic cleansing while brutally oppressing an entire group of people. so hamas and the Palestinians get my sympathy, not Israel.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I don't need to read deranged Zionist racist tracts to know they are saying that poo poo. They will be destroyed and the State of Israel will be as well.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

The 'keep waving' thing is so funny, because it's clearly just because the guy didn't manage to get them in frame doing it and wanted to let them know it wasn't filmed.

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug

quote:

Elma was in Hamas captivity for 51 days and nights. She was kept in a harsh condition. She was denied lifesaving medication. She was not visited by the Red Cross.
Israel denies Gaza food, water, electricity, connectivity, etc... but wants me to be upset that Hamas couldn't feed and medicate all of their hostages?

Confusedslight
Jan 9, 2020

Egg Moron posted:

Such grace

Such dignity

Concepts Israel will never understand.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
lol

https://twitter.com/aryjeay/status/1729540130203992567?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Homocow posted:

Israel denies Gaza food, water, electricity, connectivity, etc... but wants me to be upset that Hamas couldn't feed and medicate all of their hostages?

Correct. Only starving white people is a crime.

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Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
https://twitter.com/haim_goldberg/status/1729445984592113893

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