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Zenithal priming means you spray it black first, then grey or white but only from above. Just get another rattlecan and go hog wild. Or don't, because restraint is important in zenithal stuff.
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Combine zenithal priming with a drybrush of white to catch the additional edges the zenithal didn't quite get for maximum  .
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Fearless posted:Currently running a special on Kirkland 155mm white phosporus shells! Free delivery! oh poo poo I just thought of a Rakshasa with a Great Value label on it (get it, because it's a Wal-Mart brand Mad Cat)
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GD_American posted:oh poo poo I just thought of a Rakshasa with a Great Value label on it (get it, because it's a Wal-Mart brand Mad Cat) AFFS: We need to get some Mad Cats! NAIS: We have Mad Cats back home. The Mad Cats back home: 
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Don't hate! The Jihad-era MDG-1Ar refit and the MDG-2A technically made available after the FM updates are both just fine. The lack of CASE on the -2A isn't even that bad because it's an IS XL Engined design anyways
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I recently looked at the Rabid Dog's Alpha Strike card and looks like I'm buying a bunch of them.
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Yeah the Rakshasa isn't the best 75 ton mech out there, but once they stopped trying to copy the Timber Wolf Prime a whole pile of interesting design space opened up.
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Putting together a basic all-rounder Kurita lance. Is this a good start or is this TOO specific to Draconis Combine? Dragon Panther Jenner Hatamoto-Chi Gonna face that off against a a Ghost Bear lance of a Grizzly and a Kodiak and other dumb bear related stuff.
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The performance gap is going to differ depending on the exact variant, but you probably shouldn't be going 1:1 odds with Clan mechs unless your pilots are massively better.
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Count Thrashula posted:Gonna face that off against a a Ghost Bear lance of a Grizzly and a Kodiak and other dumb bear related stuff. You'll be at a weight and firepower disadvantage with that setup. A standard Panther, Jenner, Dragon, and Hatamoto-Chi tops out at 4376 BV, assuming you're running the stock variant. A Kodiak and Grizzly combined hit 5146 BV (assuming their stock variants). If they've got other 'Mechs on top of that, the fight is going to be short and unenjoyable for both of you. I'd talk to your friend and set a BV limit.
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My friend is myself  But yeah good point
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Count Thrashula posted:Putting together a basic all-rounder Kurita lance. Is this a good start or is this TOO specific to Draconis Combine? I mean....is there any Mech out there more Kuritan than any of those four? I can think of others (Wolf Trap, No-dachi, Mauler) but none really more culturally linked. As said, unless you're going to be rocking some Sword of Light badasses against a sibko or something, you might wanna program in other advantages, like existing battle damage on the Clanners.
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GD_American posted:I mean....is there any Mech out there more Kuritan than any of those four? The Shiro
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Basically every Dark Age Kurita mech is iconically Kurita except like the Crickett or some poo poo. Including the Hatamotos, very few of which are "Chi" and are usually Hi or Suna or some other suffix.
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GD_American posted:I mean....is there any Mech out there more Kuritan than any of those four? Grand Dragon 
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Dracs suck Gunslinger GUN-2ERD Cerberus MR-7K Naginata NG-C3C Maelstrom MTR-7K or something idk i hate these guys Make sure they're all hooked up to the Gunslinger's C3 network. I'd also like to take the opportunity to complain about the Ghost Bears specifically, who are more egregious munchkin trash than most Clanners. they have everything and never lose after tukayyid and also they like to say they emphasize speed and power when all their classic totem 'Mechs are morbidly obese heavies and assaults i have been socialized to have a vendetta against Ben Rome Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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It's funny because a lot of Ghost Bear "fiat" (Leviathan excepted) seemed to have been "What do we do with these guys?" "I dunno, don't have anything solid for them right now." "Well, we have to get this next plot point out. Leave them alone for now and we'll come back to them later." And then since all the plot points have broadly been "blow up everyone involved", passing the buck on the Bears has meant that they tend to avoid all the firestorms or only show up at the end and so they've become strong just by virtue of not having been sucked into all the meatgrinders like everyone else. Xotl fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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The Kodiak is fast for a 100 tonner, the Executioner is too fast to be cheap enough to play, and their next most notably used Omni is the Fire Moth. The Karhu jumps 7 in the Prime config and has exactly one config without jump jets or a speed boost. The Rime Otter has a fixed speed boost on it. There's also something called an Arcas that jumps either 5 or 7 in every variant, and another something called a Kuma I've never heard of that is hilariously fast for its size at least as far at the AS card goes. Their beefy mechs that I know of are the Grizzly (still jumps but isn't fast), the Bruin (same) and the Mastodon. The Ursus is really slow and has no excuse but I absolutely get the vibe of going faster than average from that collection of mechs.
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4/6 is objectively not fast. 4/6[8] is not fast enough and the Executioner never needs to move anyways. The Fire Moth is excellent but players never field it with the Elementals the way the Bears supposedly do. Karhu is not classic and neither are any other others you mentioned except the Arcas and Grizzly. I'll give you the Arcas. Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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It is as fast as the tonnage is capable of moving, this is by definition fast for its size. 
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You have got to be able to definitively dictate your own fighting range on initiative win, or fully remove yourself from disadvantaged ranges on initiative loss, surat! Every 10 seconds can mean the difference between life or dishonor! (yeaahhh when like more than 75% of units in the entire game can move 4/6 or faster that's not a very exciting goalpost to have)
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Xotl posted:It's funny because a lot of Ghost Bear "fiat" (Leviathan excepted) seemed to have been Honestly having a civil war AND the winning side of that war being the people who want to follow Alaric "Genetic Mistake" Ward is enough of a blow to wipe out decades of "fiat", really.
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:hopefully with that and the federated suns finally done with literally taking it in both ends we can be done talking about "fiat" in general We've got plenty of lovely writing in recent times, it's not as if all the plot developments are logical and rely on people behaving like they have brains that work better than that of a dog.
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We never will be. The problem with having essentially the same factions for 40 years of nerds and for like 600+ fictional years means real shakeups to the core status quo risk alienating someone, somewhere. Look how many grogs refuse to acknowledge the Clans still.
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Arquinsiel posted:We never will be. The problem with having essentially the same factions for 40 years of nerds and for like 600+ fictional years means real shakeups to the core status quo risk alienating someone, somewhere. Look how many grogs refuse to acknowledge the Clans still. Weren't the Clans introduced in like the early 90s?? I didn't even realize there was an era of Battletech** that was just the IS forces. How boring. (**I mean era of it as a game product, I know obviously there are pre-Clan eras in-universe to the game)
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Yeah it's nuts. I get that BattleTech got a lot of things right in its first release and there were a lot of products released in the years before the Clans that provided a lot to do with the game. But over 30 years of just that? I kind of wonder if the loudest grogs even play the game or if they just pretend that they do while getting mad about it on the internet. I have played dozens and dozens of introductory tech games and I eventually got sick of it and moved on just to have more variety.
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I put some of the blame for that on the writers. The Clan Invasion was basically "if you liked the old version of Battletech you're wrong, and that world doesn't have any place going forward." They should have left the Periphery as the "life are cheap, mechs aren't, you only have what you bring with you" area instead of also having it make huge tech leaps. If the old setting was something you liked, they didn't leave you any other option but to ignore everything they made.
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There's also an enormous disconnect in modern public consciousness in general but BattleTech in specific gets it really bad, where the concept of "fiat" as in "an author wrote this" and the concept of "fiat" as in "this thing only happened because the author forced it to" get treated as the same thing and they very surely are loving not. The Ghost Bears just kind of chilling out for 80 years and then bursting into flames is "fiat" in the sense that it is a thing that happened in the fiction as the result of something that was written. We could argue about how likely that was to be the outcome compared to another outcome, but there's nothing inherently wrong with how it happened, and the explanations while a retcon by the strictest technical definition are at least self-consistent with the rest of the BattleTech setting. Tara Campbell, Republic patriot par excellence, beating Alaric tactically and then deciding to surrender and switch sides because they happened to be fighting on dirt that hasn't meant anything to her people in over a thousand years is the other kind of fiat, where it shouldn't have happened in a million loving years but it did because Pardoe sucks at this.
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Count Thrashula posted:Weren't the Clans introduced in like the early 90s?? I didn't even realize there was an era of Battletech** that was just the IS forces. How boring. There was roughly a five year stretch between the game being first made (Battledroids, 1984) and the Clans being introduced in 1989.
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PoptartsNinja posted:There was roughly a five year stretch between the game being first made (Battledroids, 1984) and the Clans being introduced in 1989. Yeah, I'm a 3025 grog, but it's silly to pretend like Battletech was some well entrenched thing and then FASA sprung the Clans on players. Nevermind that half the lore from the 80s was heavily foreshadowing "The Return of Kerensky".
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Defiance Industries posted:We've got plenty of lovely writing in recent times, it's not as if all the plot developments are logical and rely on people behaving like they have brains that work better than that of a dog. Plot points that happen because characters make mistakes or are stupid are great. Plot points that force characters to be stupid are really bad. HOTW was full of the latter. Empire Alone and Tamar Rising was full of the former. Damocles Sanction was somewhere in-between. Hopefully IlKhan's Eyes Only focuses on Alaric kinda being lost and not knowing what to do on Terra now that he's stuck, and making bad decisions out of an otherwise super-inflated ego. Unrelated to current fiction, I bought a couple BattleCorp Print anthologies. Looks like there's a TON of Jihad-related stories in them. I heard good things about BattleCorps, that was an era of fiction I completely missed. Crazy Joe Wilson fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Dec 1, 2023 |
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PeterWeller posted:Yeah, I'm a 3025 grog, but it's silly to pretend like Battletech was some well entrenched thing and then FASA sprung the Clans on players. Nevermind that half the lore from the 80s was heavily foreshadowing "The Return of Kerensky". I think a lot of it is narrative tension about what Battletech "is" thematically. In the 80's it very much came across as Mad Max Mecha. I remember the original source stuff making a huge deal out of scarcity; even having a hand-me-down bugmech made you essentially nobility. And the few factories left in the bombed-out universe that could still fabricate 'mechs were something between the single most important strategic resource a great house could have and a holy site. I think for a lot of grogs the Clan stuff was too hard a shift (even a retcon in some ways) into more conventional space opera. Not saying either one is the "right" lens on the setting; just that it strains between the two tones a bit.
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Personally I think there was room for both. The universe was already full of haves and have-nots, there was really no reason to think that new technology would benefit everyone, regardless of geography or politics.
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There's already a big tabletop game IP where everything awesome was lost, progress is a bitter joke and all we can do is cling to the hand me downs of a past ruined by irrevocable mistakes. Plus Battletech needs to introduce new mechs and tech to sell products.
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Battledroids beat Rogue Trader to the punch by a few years.
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I was one of those grogs. I hated how out of wack ClanTech made the game when the 3050 TRO first dropped (soooo many Masakari Primes), and the fiction behind them was pretty terrible at the start. I'll always think the faction names are pretty dumb. Since then, it's reached the same level of unevenness as other fiction, and they've balanced things well in-game. I'll never like them, but whining about the existence of the Clans today is about the same level as complaining about Metallica cutting their hair.
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General Battuta posted:There's already a big tabletop game IP where everything awesome was lost, progress is a bitter joke and all we can do is cling to the hand me downs of a past ruined by irrevocable mistakes.
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