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PsychoInternetHawk posted:Lol if Israel declares the PA terrorists and rounds them up to try and get some morale going https://youtu.be/cSICN8BPda8?t=50 quote:Wait! You're making a terrible mistake, I've done everything you asked. I tell you I'm loyal, I believe in the two state solution, no, wait!
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Al-Saqr posted:lol get hosed nazi president I smile every time I see a euro leader eat poo poo and realise their real position in the world is as a barnacle on the sinking ship of the United States rather the lighthouse of civilization they project themselves as
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HallelujahLee posted:more news from demon nation I'm sure nothing bad can come from officially equating Jewishness to the wholesale murder of Muslim and Christian children.
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FlapYoJacks posted:This photo shows the hostages are far more unhappy to be back in Israel than with Hamas. Perhaps it’s because Israel spent the last two months attempting to bomb them? lol at the red triangle at the back of the bus
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Al-Saqr posted:lol get hosed nazi president Aw, he thought he was important. That's cute. What exactly does Germany offer the rest of the industrialised world these days? Or any part of the world? Apologies to any Germans here. I really have no idea. I like the ceramic mugs though.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:West Germany was practically a Nazi sympathizer state up to the late 80s. Abortion was also illegal, and technically still is, with the German courts recognizing that the unborn have a right to life. It's a Nazi sympathiser state today, OP.
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DancingShade posted:Apologies to any Germans here. I really have no idea. I like the ceramic mugs though. picked a mug up atr the renaissance faire, when germany possibly made a positive contribution to the world
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they make board games
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DancingShade posted:What exactly does Germany offer the rest of the industrialised world these days? Or any part of the world? Cars and chemicals.
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Sancho Banana posted:Cars and chemicals. not anymore, those factories are all moving to somewhere without a bombed pipeline
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DancingShade posted:What exactly does Germany offer the rest of the industrialised world these days? Or any part of the world? customers
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Sancho Banana posted:Cars and chemicals. https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/germanys-speira-end-rheinwerk-aluminium-smelting-due-energy-costs-2023-03-09/ Germany's Speira to end Rheinwerk aluminium smelting due to energy costs Reuters March 9, 202311:21 PM GMT+11Updated 9 months ago LONDON, March 9 (Reuters) - Germany's Speira said on Thursday it will shut the aluminium smelting operations at its Rheinwerk plant due to high energy prices, after it was forced to halve production last year. Although Western Europe's energy crisis, which began in 2021 and worsened after last year's Russian invasion of Ukraine, has passed its peak, it is still affecting power-intensive aluminium production. Output in Western Europe fell by 12.5% in 2022. crepeface posted:not anymore, those factories are all moving to somewhere without a bombed pipeline Yep. I even have some "German" combat boots in my boot collection. Very nice. Lots of German words on the label. Made in China.
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Sancho Banana posted:I'm gonna have to learn warhammer first but I appreciate it most important rule for warhammer: never give gw money the rest is pretty easy
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DancingShade posted:Yep. I even have some "German" combat boots in my boot collection. Very nice. Lots of German words on the label. Made in China. Some French military / USA police combat boots had parts made by me here in Serbia back when I had a factory job, and half the machinery and most of the background logistics was, guess it, Chinese. Outsourcing chains get silly.
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crepeface posted:the ideology takes root because of material circumstances. if it wasn't beneficial to follow/believe in that ideology, it wouldn't be adopted! I don't think this is true as the actual utility of ideology can be purely emotional. As FF said the ideology of Confederate slavery actually wasn't of material benefit to them compared to competing ideologies. They were doggedly pursuing slavery and a conception of a slavery driven lifestyle even when it made no sense to do so. Material circumstances can make an ideology more persuasive and extreme material circumstances of 1920s Germany were a great environment for an ideology like Nazism to take root, but the contours of Nazism were not defined by the material. Nazism was actually disastrous for organizing an economy or a war effort. Desperate people in bad circumstances will find extreme ideologies more attractive, but it's not an evolutionary ideology laboratory that produces the most efficient ideology. Consider also that some of the most ideologically driven people in our contemporary world have few material restraints on them. Israel is a rich country and most committed Zionists aren't materially dependent on the project for their comfort. Their ideological reward is emotional. Israel could be richer and safer with a less unrepentant version of Zionism. Pener Kropoopkin posted:The US's commitment is based on the imperial aims of our geopolitical project. Israel's presence in the Middle East has produced several compliant Arab states where before they resisted becoming neocolonies. It creates contradictions in the region that actively destabilizes it and keeps all remaining resistance to imperialism underdeveloped. It's a necessary function in the realization of totalizing liberal hegemony, with the United States remaining the world's primary consumer. But why does America need Israel to do that? It can use its immense wealth and power to force countries into submission without need of Israel. Several of those US client states were created with British assistance while Israel was still forming. Its big bases are not in Israel, oil is not in Israel, and Israel has its own aggressive foreign policy goals that are frequently not in alignment with the US. Often the US has to spend diplomatic capital to bail Israel out of problems of its own making. Consider the immense cost and problems of the 70s recession and that was entirely because of Israel. That's before we even consider the incredible amount of money that the US gives Israel who consume it into their own grift industries. American commitment to Israel is driven by what supporting Israel means to the decision makers and not pragmatism. American foreign policy has so rarely been driven by utility anyway. Like the insane cost in lives and money of opposing communism in SE Asia was not a necessary step in creating a global empire. It could've achieved far more power and influence in the region if the decision making wasn't done by very stupid and ideologically driven people. The American empire has succeeded despite its endless ideologically driven mistakes only because American wealth and power after WW2 was so enormous it could absorb them. America is a dumb rich kid preening about its successful companies that stay afloat only due to a constant flow of cash from their parents. edit: It's like how people say the GWoT was blood for oil, but the PNAC idiots in the W admin were clear why they wanted to invade Iraq. It was blood for the inane dreams of very stupid people. Some money was made by Haliburton but that was a consequence and not a cause. We give them too much credit to say they were that mercenary about it. FuzzySlippers has issued a correction as of 11:49 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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my dad posted:Some French military / USA police combat boots had parts made by me here in Serbia back when I had a factory job, and half the machinery and most of the background logistics was, guess it, Chinese. Outsourcing chains get silly. also dont ask who actually made your made-in-italy prada too lol
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Palladium posted:also dont ask who actually made your made-in-italy prada too lol My last pair of made in Italy sunglasses shipped direct from China. They still had the made in Italy stamped on them too, for that extra touch of class. (they weren't fakes, just straight from factory) Europe is nothing but a brand label. A second hand car dealership with some turtle wax.
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Palladium posted:also dont ask who actually made your made-in-italy prada too lol the probably contract now with the same factories that used to produce knockoffs of their products in the past
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the way it seems to me when I look outside my window, the economy in europe is based on people cutting each other's hair and delivering food to each other. sorry about excessive EU-chat
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https://twitter.com/BTnewsroom/status/1729965363440361561
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FuzzySlippers posted:I don't think this is true as the actual utility of ideology can be purely emotional. As FF said the ideology of Confederate slavery actually wasn't of material benefit to them compared to competing ideologies. They were doggedly pursuing slavery and a conception of a slavery driven lifestyle even when it made no sense to do so. the ideology of the confederate slavery WAS beneficial, but became outdated when the economic model of east coast finance and international markets outcompeted the national slave labour model. also, don't forget that we're talking about individuals. those slave owners largely got reintegrated into the new american political and economic reality and then they relied on segregated de-facto wage slavery, rather than outright slavery. in the case of zionists, they individually benefit from espousing the settler colonial ideology by advancement in the a power structure such as a political party. non-zionist israelis are either politically disenfranchised or leave (or get assassinated). im not trying to say that people believe a stupid ideology solely because of material circumstances, and that there's no emotion involved. but i really dislike the "some people are just shitheads" explanation. they were raised that way, in a particular environment for a reason.
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The guards outside the hotel need faceless masks for intimidation. They look like they don't want to be there.
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https://x.com/isaiah_bb/status/1730032921925337410?s=20 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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"they wanted to wipe out the Palestinians, so we all became Palestinians"
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crepeface posted:the ideology of the confederate slavery WAS beneficial, but became outdated when the economic model of east coast finance and international markets outcompeted the national slave labour model. The question isn't whether they derive any material benefit from their ideological views, but are their decisions driven by the material or the ideological. The slave owners didn't run the numbers and see they could make more money in slavery than manufacturing. They were committed to a specific weird lifestyle of plantations and slaves due to dodgy culture and were looking for ways to continue it (hence needing more markets to sell slaves and such). Do Israelis want to drive out the Palestinians because they want access to the land for its resources and their ideology is a convenient excuse or do they have dodgy spiritual beliefs about the land and don't want to share it with an Other? It's important because if it's just about resources hell let's get the Israelis some natural gas somewhere else and maybe they'll leave the poor people alone. If it's about a weird blend of nationalist, ethnosupremacist, and religious poo poo then we can't expect the Zionists will ever be happy with Palestinians existing there at all. edit: you are right I'm being a bit blithe with 'shithead' and the reasons people are as they are would be infinitely complex on its own. FuzzySlippers has issued a correction as of 12:40 on Nov 30, 2023 |
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John Charity Spring posted:this is definitely a real strength of the thread, on top of the unstinting support (material, moral, and monetary) that every poster in it is giving to Hamas im going to kiss khhhamas
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trying hard to get advertisers back on twitter
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hey mom its 420 posted:sorry about excessive EU-chat baguette posting
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He was gifted them by the family of a hostage on his “see I have Jewish friends” tour of Israel and has vowed to not take them off until all hostages are returned
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Egg Moron posted:He was gifted them by the family of a hostage on his “see I have Jewish friends” tour of Israel and has vowed to not take them off until all hostages are returned Is he including the IDF captives as well or only the civilians? Cuz if it's the first one he may be wearing them for a while
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Frosted Flake posted:One of the fundamental tensions of Israel is that, like Rhodesia and South Africa, they can be a democracy or a state based around an extremely narrow franchise and definition of citizenship, but not really both. To maintain their democracy where only certain people vote, the other community needs to be tortured and terrorized. But how can you be a democracy that prevents a plurality, I think it's fair to say majority, of people from voting? the people who can't vote are brown, op
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does that mean he's IDF now? hamas has the opportunity to do the funniest thing
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Frosted Flake posted:Someone asked about the German government's support for Israel. Tl;dr : That's a spicy Bratwurst
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Al-Saqr posted:Bahraini MP Mohammed Al-Balushi: This is an event in solidarity with the Palestinian people, and unfortunately the American, French and British ambassadors are present here, as are those who kill the dead person and walk in his funeral.
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exmarx posted:good overview of the history etc. that entire channel is pretty good. lots of good interviews w/ leftists/historians
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One Hundred Years of Turpidtude
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It’s been a bad week for the NYT. Their idols are toppling over one after the other
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oh man the cyber resistance is going to zoom/enhance that fuckin' thing
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do they get to add kissinger to the list of kh-Hamas victims?
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Hamas ftw Ansar Allah ftw Somali pirates ftw Hezbollah ftw Iran ftw Death to America and Israel Rest in piss Henry Kissinger Mods are idf
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