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Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

R. Guyovich posted:

lmao at strategically deploying numerological superstition (which isn't super common these days outside of buildings still not having a fourth floor) to get the price down a teeny bit more

The best part, and how you know the official is just using this poo poo, is how he objects to too many fours and then immediately proposes lowering the price by four. Thats just daring this motherfucker to say something imo

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Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

ScootsMcSkirt posted:

its so weird watching this and seeing a government that cares about the well-being of its people

its a concept that i can barely imagine and seeing it in front of me is just something else

Communism is the light, friend.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
nice pictures, Fitzy Fitz. I've been to Ho Chi Minh City but maybe visiting Hanoi would be nice too

Koos Group
Mar 6, 2013


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Fitzy Fitz
May 14, 2005




gradenko_2000 posted:

nice pictures, Fitzy Fitz. I've been to Ho Chi Minh City but maybe visiting Hanoi would be nice too

I stayed in Hanoi's old quarter and had a lot of fun. Over the weekend they closed off most of the streets to traffic at sundown, so there was a big party in the streets with bands, dancing, etc.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

AnimeIsTrash posted:

could you talk about the economy of yugoslavia? from what i understand there was a pretty big collectivization effort early on and to good effect, but then efforts just stopped?

someone in another thread described yugoslavia as market socialism, and that doesnt really sound right to me

I'm too tired for an effortpost right now, and tomorrow I'll have too much work to do, but I'll give it a shot on the weekend.

If I forget (like I know I do sometimes when it comes to "posting later"), don't hesitate to pester me about it. :)

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Spergin Morlock posted:

I wonder if they still talk lol

now they can, but its a long distance call

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Video feels a bit too cute to be real but you know what, China's earned some faith, kudos drug negotiator

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

"hmmm a video of china doing something unassailably, inarguably beneficial. perhaps staged?????"

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Saving several cents a pill, but at what cost

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️
muh greed forced me to show up

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

R. Guyovich posted:

"hmmm a video of china doing something unassailably, inarguably beneficial. perhaps staged?????"

literal reaction from some friends i sent it to

granted i was trolling them, but

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

how about you dont post here

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

R. Guyovich posted:

"hmmm a video of china doing something unassailably, inarguably beneficial. perhaps staged?????"

It's less that and more that it seems too clean & clever, smart & savvy negotiator cleverly defeats moron company representative with no pushback in the span of a day. Maybe my image of politics is too bureaucratic, I imagine a lot of this happens through tedious legislation & faxed offers and etcetera

FWIW propaganda is FTW, if it endears people to Communism, China, and haggling drug prices down then that's cool

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

it's clearly edited down but they ARE representing the world's largest prescription drug market and companies are desperate to get a foothold with their generics so they can try to market their cutting-edge products, so it doesn't seem that far-fetched to me

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I mean if we got to see how the price already got to below 5.00 before the negotiations even started I think it would be even funnier

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
You'd think Sorkin libs would be all over it

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

not enough snarky quips

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Ghost Leviathan posted:

You'd think Sorkin libs would be all over it

The Sorkin version of this is that scene where the pharma guy says Africans can't tell time so they won't sell AIDS medications to people who can't keep the schedule since there's no clocks and watches

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

gradenko_2000 posted:

The Sorkin version of this is that scene where the pharma guy says Africans can't tell time so they won't sell AIDS medications to people who can't keep the schedule since there's no clocks and watches

is that a real scene

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

it is lmao

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

The Sorkin version of this is that scene where the pharma guy says Africans can't tell time so they won't sell AIDS medications to people who can't keep the schedule since there's no clocks and watches

:psyduck:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

fart simpson posted:

is that a real scene

Would i lie to you

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NnvBLwTjIdY

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

omg I though the pharma guys were going to drop the line but it’s so much better

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012


Love the comments on this all figuring out helpful ways you could get people who don't have watches to still show up for stuff on time

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:


lmao. “they can’t tell time.” *sad music*

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Slavvy posted:

Love the comments on this all figuring out helpful ways you could get people who don't have watches to still show up for stuff on time


@bchen0709
10 years ago
This scene really floored me. I did not see that problem at all but it makes perfect sense. And it kinda shows that these pharmaceutical CEOs aren't just greedy and corrupt.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

How much could a wristwatch cost?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/1730226350860964028?t=08LtDxfE2POx9M8X6lYZDA&s=19

Let's see if China and Vietnam will sign any BRI deal. Maybe a train deal?

I don't think Xi went to any other country except Russia and San Fran this year.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

yellowcar posted:

not enough snarky quips

Ill give you 5 mins to call your CEO.

Whats the population of South Korea, whats the population of China? How about you make another sincere offer?

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010
nothing we haven't seen before but a funny but at what cost? article

https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/laos-is-in-eye-watering-debt-and-bound-to-china-for-survival-20231130-p5eo7u.html

China’s Belt squeezes so tight, Laos is choking

quote:

I’ve been meaning to take a ride on the line − built under Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative − since it opened in late 2021.

At 1000 kilometres in total, including the 418-kilometre stretch from the Lao capital to the Chinese border, the line has improved connectivity between key centres within the land-locked South-east Asian nation and its superpower neighbour.

The journey is not rapid when compared to the high-speed trains of Europe or Japan or the 350km/h, Chinese-backed one launched in Indonesia in October. But even with a top speed of 160km/h, it reduces a gruelling, all-day drive between Vientiane and Luang Prabang to a touch under two hours, albeit with a 30-minute taxi ride to get to the station.

Laos is in one of the region’s poorest countries, and the new travel artery has opened up fresh tourism and cross-border trade possibilities. State-owned China Railway freight trains now transport iron ore, rubber and other cargo to the northern end of the line at Kunming, in China’s southern Yunnan province.

But the $US6 billion ($9 billion) section in Laos is also an expensive symbol of just how tightly its economic wellbeing is tethered to Beijing. Given their proximity and single-party communist political systems, it is hardly surprising the two have deep ties.

It’s not a shock either to see that inside the shiny new Vientiane train terminal, there is a separate zone for passengers travelling all the way to China, complete with cushioned chairs. Outside that exclusive zone − no cushions.

And special treatment in the rail line’s pre-departure area isn’t all Laos owes the Chinese.

Laos is weighed down by about $US10.4 billion in debt to China, the equivalent of almost 55 per cent of its GDP, according to the newly published Belt and Road Reboot report by the AidData research lab at William & Mary, a public university in the US state of Virginia.

quote:

For Laos, the railway, in which Chinese state-owned companies have a 70 per cent stake, is responsible for $US3.5 billion of its debt alone.

There have been more than 800 other Chinese-funded projects in Laos in the past quarter of a century, according to the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute, a Singapore think tank. Notably, that includes many of the 80 hydroelectric dams constructed on the Mekong River, the mighty waterway that runs from Tibet to southern Vietnam, and its tributaries.

The financing of those has served Laos’ ambition to become the so-called battery of South-East Asia.

Last year, it began exporting renewable energy to Singapore via Thailand and Malaysia, the pilot project of a long-envisioned, interconnected regional power network that Australia’s Sun Cable − which wants to sell solar power to Singapore − may one day plug into.


There are questions, however, about the sustainability of hydropower on the Mekong River system, upon which more than 50 million people are directly reliant. There has been fallout for villagers who have been relocated and NGOs have raised alarms about dams reducing fish stocks and affecting the flow of nutrients and, in turn, the production of rice.

While the industry is seen as a path to prosperity by leaders in Laos, its destiny is also inextricably linked to China. With the debt piling up, a state-owned Chinese electricity giant in 2021 acquired a majority share in Laos’ power grid, securing a deal to manage the nation’s electricity exports and domestic transmission for 25 years.

There is disgruntlement in Laos over the extent to which it is in thrall to China and the sentiment isn’t improved by a national currency, the kip, that has careered off a cliff. It lost half its value against the US dollar in 2022 and another 16 per cent this year, contributing to soaring inflation and cost-of-living pressures.

thinking about the Chinese government plotting to enslave its neighbours by expanding their energy generation capacity and making them net exporters to much wealthier countries

Good thing freedom loving European allies of the USA would not be tricked into such servile dependency.

quote:

China has taken “extraordinary measures” to keep Laos afloat and able to service at least some of its debt, said Parks, the AidData director, pointing to a $US300 million emergency loan in 2020 and deferred repayments estimated by the International Monetary Fund to have totalled $US1.28 billion over the past three years.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
One of the purposes of China's project in Laos is to serve as a BRI showcase to other continental SEA countries. If China's railroad project in Thailand and Northern Vietnam can be expanded as purposed without hiccup, then its a success to Beijing.

It may be stupid investment from the Chinese POV depends on how much long term prosperity and mineral export can be brought by the rail line; but from people outside of China, it's all up side and no down side. You are using a state resource to expedite growth in a very poor and land locked region. A standard gauge, and passenger focused HSR that run through the entire country and potentially connects to the southern end of continental SEA, It's the opposite of just building a rail line from the mine to the seaport.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

As recent as 2008 certain medical training claims that black people in America have difficulty telling time, which explains why they are more likely to be late for appointments.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Started watching some propaganda film called Beyond Utopia. They said if you try to escape North Korea that your whole family would be executed. One of the escapees said they were caught, sentenced to 2 years of labor... But here they are escaped, and now they are trying to traffic out their 17 year old son who is in the custody of their ex-husband (best I can tell at least).

corona familiar
Aug 13, 2021

stephenthinkpad posted:

I don't think Xi went to any other country except Russia and San Fran this year.

The Democratic People's Republic of Haight-Ashbury

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I think that's the first fart probe I have seen lol

R. Guyovich posted:

it's clearly edited down but they ARE representing the world's largest prescription drug market and companies are desperate to get a foothold with their generics so they can try to market their cutting-edge products, so it doesn't seem that far-fetched to me

By what metric is China the world's largest prescription drug market?

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.




A year later the actual loving chief of USAID used the same argument to explain why they shouldnt ship AIDS medication to Africa

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

HerraS posted:

A year later the actual loving chief of USAID used the same argument to explain why they shouldnt ship AIDS medication to Africa

https://twitter.com/PowerUSAID/status/1730593309423210818?s=20

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Whatever unfathomable power drives that ceaseless ticking, watch batteries interfere with complicated pharmaceuticals. They can't just ship watches together with the medicine!

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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https://twitter.com/barnabychuck/status/1731123473542750681?t=xMP35vLv4xzeT2vw_Q-vFA&s=19

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